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      05-17-2006
I have a domain with Windows Server 2003 SP1 domain controller. I have
installed a new server with Windows Server 2003x64 R2. I want to promote the
new server to a domain controller. My CATCH22 is:

1.) ADPREP.EXE from CD2 of Windows Server 2003x64 R2 must be run to prep
the forest.
2.) ADPREP.EXE must be run on the operations master.
3.) The operations master is Windows Server 2003 SP1 (32 bit).
4.) The ADPREP.EXE from the Windows Server 2003x64 R2 will not run on the
current operations master!

I can not find a download for the version of ADPREP I need.
 
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      05-17-2006
You can actually use the version of adprep from your SP1 installation, it's
the LDF files that are in the same directory on the R2 CD that you need. The
alternative is, of course, a 32-bit version of the R2 CD which will have the
32-bit version of adprep.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64


"akeiii" <> wrote in message
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>I have a domain with Windows Server 2003 SP1 domain controller. I have
> installed a new server with Windows Server 2003x64 R2. I want to promote
> the
> new server to a domain controller. My CATCH22 is:
>
> 1.) ADPREP.EXE from CD2 of Windows Server 2003x64 R2 must be run to prep
> the forest.
> 2.) ADPREP.EXE must be run on the operations master.
> 3.) The operations master is Windows Server 2003 SP1 (32 bit).
> 4.) The ADPREP.EXE from the Windows Server 2003x64 R2 will not run on the
> current operations master!
>
> I can not find a download for the version of ADPREP I need.


 
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      05-17-2006
Thanks for the reply, I did not know I could use the ADPREP from Windows
Server 2003 with the LDF files from Windows Server 2003x64 R2. I did locate
CD2 from the 32 bit version of R2 so now I have two solutions.


"Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

> You can actually use the version of adprep from your SP1 installation, it's
> the LDF files that are in the same directory on the R2 CD that you need. The
> alternative is, of course, a 32-bit version of the R2 CD which will have the
> 32-bit version of adprep.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>
>
> "akeiii" <> wrote in message
> news:4C6B315B-E55B-41E7-9CB7-...
> >I have a domain with Windows Server 2003 SP1 domain controller. I have
> > installed a new server with Windows Server 2003x64 R2. I want to promote
> > the
> > new server to a domain controller. My CATCH22 is:
> >
> > 1.) ADPREP.EXE from CD2 of Windows Server 2003x64 R2 must be run to prep
> > the forest.
> > 2.) ADPREP.EXE must be run on the operations master.
> > 3.) The operations master is Windows Server 2003 SP1 (32 bit).
> > 4.) The ADPREP.EXE from the Windows Server 2003x64 R2 will not run on the
> > current operations master!
> >
> > I can not find a download for the version of ADPREP I need.

>
>

 
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Charlie Russel - MVP
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      05-17-2006
adprep doesn't change much over time. All the smarts are in the .LDF files.

Charlie.

"akeiii" <> wrote in message
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> Thanks for the reply, I did not know I could use the ADPREP from Windows
> Server 2003 with the LDF files from Windows Server 2003x64 R2. I did
> locate
> CD2 from the 32 bit version of R2 so now I have two solutions.
>
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:
>
>> You can actually use the version of adprep from your SP1 installation,
>> it's
>> the LDF files that are in the same directory on the R2 CD that you need.
>> The
>> alternative is, of course, a 32-bit version of the R2 CD which will have
>> the
>> 32-bit version of adprep.
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>
>>
>> "akeiii" <> wrote in message
>> news:4C6B315B-E55B-41E7-9CB7-...
>> >I have a domain with Windows Server 2003 SP1 domain controller. I have
>> > installed a new server with Windows Server 2003x64 R2. I want to
>> > promote
>> > the
>> > new server to a domain controller. My CATCH22 is:
>> >
>> > 1.) ADPREP.EXE from CD2 of Windows Server 2003x64 R2 must be run to
>> > prep
>> > the forest.
>> > 2.) ADPREP.EXE must be run on the operations master.
>> > 3.) The operations master is Windows Server 2003 SP1 (32 bit).
>> > 4.) The ADPREP.EXE from the Windows Server 2003x64 R2 will not run on
>> > the
>> > current operations master!
>> >
>> > I can not find a download for the version of ADPREP I need.

>>
>>


 
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Steve Foster [SBS MVP]
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      05-18-2006
akeiii wrote:

>I have a domain with Windows Server 2003 SP1 domain controller. I have
>installed a new server with Windows Server 2003x64 R2. I want to promote
>the
>new server to a domain controller. My CATCH22 is:
>
>1.) ADPREP.EXE from CD2 of Windows Server 2003x64 R2 must be run to prep
>the forest.
>2.) ADPREP.EXE must be run on the operations master.
>3.) The operations master is Windows Server 2003 SP1 (32 bit).
>4.) The ADPREP.EXE from the Windows Server 2003x64 R2 will not run on the
>current operations master!
>
>I can not find a download for the version of ADPREP I need.


According to:

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=917385

R2 CD2 has both x86 and x64 versions of the R2 bits.

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      05-18-2006
saying ADPREP doesn't change much over time is actually not quite right - it
has evolved quite a bit to include better error-handling logic and user
guidance to fix potential issues, as well as additional commandline options
to control the exact update behaviour for ACLs on SYSVOL (/DomainPrep
/GPprep).

Also the version of ADPREP you're using will determine which LDIF files will
be used to extend the schema - the SP1 ADPREP version will only update the
schema to version 30 (same version as Win2003 RTM, except for a change in the
tombstonelifetime set in the SCHEMA.INI file, which only matters for new
forests). As such it won't change anything in an existing Win2003 schema.
However, the ADPREP from the R2 disk will add another file to the list of
schema LDIF files, which will update the schema to version 31 and include all
the R2 specific schema changes.

It's a different question if you need the R2 schema extensions or not:
=> you will need them if you plan to use any new R2 features that relies on
these extensions, such as DFSR or the PrintMgmt console with the capabilities
to distribute printer queues to clients via GPO
=> some R2 features do not require the R2 schema extensions, such as ADFS
(ADFS merely needs to run on an R2 box)
=> naturally, as soon as you wish to promote an existing Win2003 R2 server
(either 32 or 64-bit), you'll also need to extend the schema to R2

Mixing the ADPREP version with different Schema LDIF files and a different
schema.ini file can lead to an undesired state and as such I'd not recommend
using this approach.

As such, if you care to update your existing Win2003 AD schema to the "real"
R2 schema on an exsiting 32-bit DC, you'll have to use the 32-bit version of
the R2-CD2 (although http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=917385 suggests the
64-bit R2-CD2 should have both x86 and x64 bits of ADPREP, I couldn't find it
on the 64-bit CD).

/Guido


"Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

> adprep doesn't change much over time. All the smarts are in the .LDF files.
>
> Charlie.
>
> "akeiii" <> wrote in message
> news:1FAC8437-C2B0-4CB3-8CA5-...
> > Thanks for the reply, I did not know I could use the ADPREP from Windows
> > Server 2003 with the LDF files from Windows Server 2003x64 R2. I did
> > locate
> > CD2 from the 32 bit version of R2 so now I have two solutions.
> >
> >
> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:
> >
> >> You can actually use the version of adprep from your SP1 installation,
> >> it's
> >> the LDF files that are in the same directory on the R2 CD that you need.
> >> The
> >> alternative is, of course, a 32-bit version of the R2 CD which will have
> >> the
> >> 32-bit version of adprep.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Charlie.
> >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
> >>
> >>
> >> "akeiii" <> wrote in message
> >> news:4C6B315B-E55B-41E7-9CB7-...
> >> >I have a domain with Windows Server 2003 SP1 domain controller. I have
> >> > installed a new server with Windows Server 2003x64 R2. I want to
> >> > promote
> >> > the
> >> > new server to a domain controller. My CATCH22 is:
> >> >
> >> > 1.) ADPREP.EXE from CD2 of Windows Server 2003x64 R2 must be run to
> >> > prep
> >> > the forest.
> >> > 2.) ADPREP.EXE must be run on the operations master.
> >> > 3.) The operations master is Windows Server 2003 SP1 (32 bit).
> >> > 4.) The ADPREP.EXE from the Windows Server 2003x64 R2 will not run on
> >> > the
> >> > current operations master!
> >> >
> >> > I can not find a download for the version of ADPREP I need.
> >>
> >>

>

 
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Charlie Russel - MVP
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      05-18-2006
I couldn't find it on my version of the 64bit R2 CD either. And I bow to
your comments about using the correct versions of adprep. Though in this
specific case, I think it would work just fine. But since the OP has located
the correct R2 32-bit disk, that's a better approach, certainly.

--
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http://msmvps.com/xperts64

Guido Grillenmeier - MVP wrote:
> saying ADPREP doesn't change much over time is actually not quite right -
> it has evolved quite a bit to include better error-handling logic and user
> guidance to fix potential issues, as well as additional commandline
> options to control the exact update behaviour for ACLs on SYSVOL
> (/DomainPrep /GPprep).
>
> Also the version of ADPREP you're using will determine which LDIF files
> will be used to extend the schema - the SP1 ADPREP version will only
> update the schema to version 30 (same version as Win2003 RTM, except for
> a change in the tombstonelifetime set in the SCHEMA.INI file, which only
> matters for new forests). As such it won't change anything in an existing
> Win2003 schema. However, the ADPREP from the R2 disk will add another
> file to the list of schema LDIF files, which will update the schema to
> version 31 and include all the R2 specific schema changes.
>
> It's a different question if you need the R2 schema extensions or not:
> => you will need them if you plan to use any new R2 features that relies
> on these extensions, such as DFSR or the PrintMgmt console with the
> capabilities to distribute printer queues to clients via GPO
> => some R2 features do not require the R2 schema extensions, such as ADFS
> (ADFS merely needs to run on an R2 box)
> => naturally, as soon as you wish to promote an existing Win2003 R2 server
> (either 32 or 64-bit), you'll also need to extend the schema to R2
>
> Mixing the ADPREP version with different Schema LDIF files and a different
> schema.ini file can lead to an undesired state and as such I'd not
> recommend using this approach.
>
> As such, if you care to update your existing Win2003 AD schema to the
> "real" R2 schema on an exsiting 32-bit DC, you'll have to use the 32-bit
> version of the R2-CD2 (although http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=917385
> suggests the 64-bit R2-CD2 should have both x86 and x64 bits of ADPREP, I
> couldn't find it on the 64-bit CD).
>
> /Guido
>
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:
>
>> adprep doesn't change much over time. All the smarts are in the .LDF
>> files.
>>
>> Charlie.
>>
>> "akeiii" <> wrote in message
>> news:1FAC8437-C2B0-4CB3-8CA5-...
>>> Thanks for the reply, I did not know I could use the ADPREP from Windows
>>> Server 2003 with the LDF files from Windows Server 2003x64 R2. I did
>>> locate
>>> CD2 from the 32 bit version of R2 so now I have two solutions.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:
>>>
>>>> You can actually use the version of adprep from your SP1 installation,
>>>> it's
>>>> the LDF files that are in the same directory on the R2 CD that you
>>>> need. The
>>>> alternative is, of course, a 32-bit version of the R2 CD which will
>>>> have the
>>>> 32-bit version of adprep.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Charlie.
>>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "akeiii" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:4C6B315B-E55B-41E7-9CB7-...
>>>>> I have a domain with Windows Server 2003 SP1 domain controller. I have
>>>>> installed a new server with Windows Server 2003x64 R2. I want to
>>>>> promote
>>>>> the
>>>>> new server to a domain controller. My CATCH22 is:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1.) ADPREP.EXE from CD2 of Windows Server 2003x64 R2 must be run to
>>>>> prep
>>>>> the forest.
>>>>> 2.) ADPREP.EXE must be run on the operations master.
>>>>> 3.) The operations master is Windows Server 2003 SP1 (32 bit).
>>>>> 4.) The ADPREP.EXE from the Windows Server 2003x64 R2 will not run on
>>>>> the
>>>>> current operations master!
>>>>>
>>>>> I can not find a download for the version of ADPREP I need.



 
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      09-19-2007
I am having a similar problem,same error anyway, but my schema master won't
run the adprep on R2 - it say's it wasn't made for it's version.

My dc is running Windows 2003 Enterprise edition - all updates applied, but
my X64 is only Standard - is that my problem? any workaround any one knows
of?

Thanks,

Julie

"Steve Foster [SBS MVP]" wrote:

> akeiii wrote:
>
> >I have a domain with Windows Server 2003 SP1 domain controller. I have
> >installed a new server with Windows Server 2003x64 R2. I want to promote
> >the
> >new server to a domain controller. My CATCH22 is:
> >
> >1.) ADPREP.EXE from CD2 of Windows Server 2003x64 R2 must be run to prep
> >the forest.
> >2.) ADPREP.EXE must be run on the operations master.
> >3.) The operations master is Windows Server 2003 SP1 (32 bit).
> >4.) The ADPREP.EXE from the Windows Server 2003x64 R2 will not run on the
> >current operations master!
> >
> >I can not find a download for the version of ADPREP I need.

>
> According to:
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=917385
>
> R2 CD2 has both x86 and x64 versions of the R2 bits.
>
> --
> Steve Foster [SBS MVP]
> ---------------------------------------
> MVPs do not work for Microsoft. Please reply only to the newsgroups.
>

 
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      09-19-2007
You run the 32-bit adprep from the Server 2k3 EE 32-bit server. But copy the
schema files from the R2 CD. They are bit-neutral.

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http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Julie" <> wrote in message
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>I am having a similar problem,same error anyway, but my schema master won't
> run the adprep on R2 - it say's it wasn't made for it's version.
>
> My dc is running Windows 2003 Enterprise edition - all updates applied,
> but
> my X64 is only Standard - is that my problem? any workaround any one
> knows
> of?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Julie
>
> "Steve Foster [SBS MVP]" wrote:
>
>> akeiii wrote:
>>
>> >I have a domain with Windows Server 2003 SP1 domain controller. I have
>> >installed a new server with Windows Server 2003x64 R2. I want to promote
>> >the
>> >new server to a domain controller. My CATCH22 is:
>> >
>> >1.) ADPREP.EXE from CD2 of Windows Server 2003x64 R2 must be run to prep
>> >the forest.
>> >2.) ADPREP.EXE must be run on the operations master.
>> >3.) The operations master is Windows Server 2003 SP1 (32 bit).
>> >4.) The ADPREP.EXE from the Windows Server 2003x64 R2 will not run on
>> >the
>> >current operations master!
>> >
>> >I can not find a download for the version of ADPREP I need.

>>
>> According to:
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=917385
>>
>> R2 CD2 has both x86 and x64 versions of the R2 bits.
>>
>> --
>> Steve Foster [SBS MVP]
>> ---------------------------------------
>> MVPs do not work for Microsoft. Please reply only to the newsgroups.
>>


 
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      09-19-2007
Hi Charlie,

Thanks for your response. So these files are the LDF files I need to copy
to the existing DC schema master, do I put them into the same folder as
Adprep?

Thank you for your time,

Julie

"Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

> You run the 32-bit adprep from the Server 2k3 EE 32-bit server. But copy the
> schema files from the R2 CD. They are bit-neutral.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>
>
> "Julie" <> wrote in message
> news:2F345218-BAB8-4613-AD5C-...
> >I am having a similar problem,same error anyway, but my schema master won't
> > run the adprep on R2 - it say's it wasn't made for it's version.
> >
> > My dc is running Windows 2003 Enterprise edition - all updates applied,
> > but
> > my X64 is only Standard - is that my problem? any workaround any one
> > knows
> > of?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Julie
> >
> > "Steve Foster [SBS MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> akeiii wrote:
> >>
> >> >I have a domain with Windows Server 2003 SP1 domain controller. I have
> >> >installed a new server with Windows Server 2003x64 R2. I want to promote
> >> >the
> >> >new server to a domain controller. My CATCH22 is:
> >> >
> >> >1.) ADPREP.EXE from CD2 of Windows Server 2003x64 R2 must be run to prep
> >> >the forest.
> >> >2.) ADPREP.EXE must be run on the operations master.
> >> >3.) The operations master is Windows Server 2003 SP1 (32 bit).
> >> >4.) The ADPREP.EXE from the Windows Server 2003x64 R2 will not run on
> >> >the
> >> >current operations master!
> >> >
> >> >I can not find a download for the version of ADPREP I need.
> >>
> >> According to:
> >>
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=917385
> >>
> >> R2 CD2 has both x86 and x64 versions of the R2 bits.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Steve Foster [SBS MVP]
> >> ---------------------------------------
> >> MVPs do not work for Microsoft. Please reply only to the newsgroups.
> >>

>

 
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