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Thankyou for lightening up a little. I didn't even have a chance to read some
of your first replies (from when I was logged out) because the first e-mail notification i saw and every post in reply to your own posts was an insult of some sort or a misunderstanding of just everything ... I'm still not sure why it resulted in insults and inseuations of rudeness when I wasnt logged in .. Afterwards everything else was talked out to one point or another. Hope you understand the obvious confusion Charlie's insult caused by prompting me to read that first "Colin Barnhorst" wrote: > I only know of Peary and Scott. > > -- > Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine] > (Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested) > "DavienC" <> wrote in message > news:34D9C30D-0CC4-4421-B58E-... > > Theres no embarassment here on my part. Many of the worlds famous leaders > > and > > artists were bi-polar and used it to their advantage (Honest Abe, Winston > > Churchill, Napoleon) .. or in many of the artists (Kurt Cobain, Virginia > > Wolfe, Edgar Allen Poe, Winters, most likely Trent Reznor) cases > > died/killed > > themself over it sadly. > > > > I was just giving a reply that may better explain such a lengthy post, > > Medication that speeds you up makes you talkitive, however I'm still not > > quite sure what was rude unless it was simply the lengthy questions and > > post > > itself. > > > > As far as addressing it in the proper place i'd probably laugh pretty hard > > at anyone offended by me being open about myself publicly. I make light of > > it > > on my blogs, Scanned my pills the other day, labled it as breakfast and > > went > > on with that ... It's good to have sense of humor about things, I know > > people > > who are dying who can joke about it ::shrugs:: > > > > > > > > > > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote: > > > >> I feel sorry for your problems, but these are things you need to address > >> in > >> an appropriate place. > >> > >> -- > >> Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine] > >> (Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested) > >> "DavienC" <> wrote in message > >> news  2EBCEE8-2EE4-457A-B727-...> >> > > >> > By the way, your expecting somone who is Ultra Rapid Cycling Bi-Polar 2 > >> > (which is something I could get on SSI b/c it's listed as a Disability > >> > but > >> > I > >> > choose not to let my musical talent go to waste or to accept gov. money > >> > when > >> > I can easily make plenty on my own), An Anxiety Disorder, Major > >> > Depression, > >> > and ADD who posted the message around when he first took (also the fact > >> > I > >> > take): > >> > - 60mg of Adderall (D-Amphetamine / Amphetamine mixed Salts) > >> > - 50mg of Lamictal (The Only True Mood Stabilizer other than Lithium) > >> > - The first of 3 0.5mg Klonopins (Second strongest Anti-Anxiety/Benzo > >> > to > >> > Xanax) > >> > - 300mg of Wellbutrin (the highest or 2nd highest dose of an > >> > Anti-Depressant, Anti Withdrawl, Weight Loss, Alternative treatment for > >> > ADD, > >> > and Anti Smoking medication sold under the name Zyban .. > >> > Anti-Depressant > >> > is > >> > the reason I take it, apparently I don't have a lot of Dopamine > >> > upstairs.) > >> > - Who had their doctor the previous day tell them they were on more > >> > medication than anyone they treat and still almost entirely reponsive > >> > to > >> > the > >> > anti-depressant measures and that I should be excited about life, being > >> > 20, > >> > and having accomplished some of what I have. > >> > > >> > But hey a rough life can give you a negative vibe, im sure at least one > >> > of > >> > you may slightly understand how it must feel mentally and physically > >> > when > >> > hitting a low or anxiety driven mixed episode with negative racing > >> > thoughts. > >> > > >> > So excuse me for my bleak outlook and discouragement having spent more > >> > time > >> > than one should of trying to solve this on my own and recieving little > >> > to > >> > no > >> > help from people who owe it to me, strangers whom lazily answer about > >> > their > >> > laziness preventing them to help, Alienware Tech support giving me > >> > enough > >> > grief to had told them very assertively of their nazi like warranty & > >> > that > >> > I > >> > will not longer be a customer of theirs (having known better to be to > >> > begin > >> > with), or "experts" and regulars at this forum that obviously following > >> > the > >> > prior remarks will have to learn to excuse my Pessismistic attitude > >> > until > >> > my > >> > impression and feeling of people needing help that arent happy and > >> > dandy > >> > are > >> > very unwelcome. It only serves to further support my lack of confidence > >> > in > >> > the rest of the human race to be tollerable for me to withstand having > >> > a > >> > very > >> > low patience threshold for acusations and insults due to lack of > >> > consideration and general one way thinking. In this case one way > >> > optimistic ( > >> > ; where as uncontrollably I can be that or another changing randomly > >> > from > >> > triggers (stress, fustration, insults), or by natural occurance, > >> > between > >> > and > >> > lasting for a matter of a few mins -24 hours with the closest thing to > >> > normal > >> > being 90% of the type Hypomania, which proves usefull in my creative > >> > outlets > >> > but mood swings & Anxiety pretty much kick the social aspect of life in > >> > the > >> > groin. > >> > > >> > ... But your a Smart Guy, you just come from a different world than I > >> > do > >> > entirely apparently. That doesn't mean we should disrespect one another > >> > or > >> > that your information, articles, and so forth have no been appreciated > >> > beforehand and that unless your going to stubbornly stay true to your > >> > convictions despite the obvious misunderstanding, I would value any > >> > information you are willing you assist me with regarding my initial > >> > post's > >> > questions. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote: > >> > > >> >> that would require that he actually come in with a positive attitude > >> >> and > >> >> use > >> >> his head for something other than a hat rack. He's got all he'll get > >> >> from > >> >> me > >> >> without a change, that's for sure. > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Charlie. > >> >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64 > >> >> > >> >> Colin Barnhorst wrote: > >> >> > No way are volunteers in the newsgroup going to read this waste of > >> >> > bandwidth. What is your question in a single sentence? > >> >> > > >> >> >> I apologize in advance for the length of the 2nd question and for > >> >> >> my > >> >> >> ranting > >> >> >> before any the first one... actually ill move it to the end.... > >> >> >> (feel > >> >> >> free as > >> >> >> I point out below to skip it, unless you just want a good laugh > >> >> >> from > >> >> >> my > >> >> >> complaining/humor about my problems progression), and also for the > >> >> >> length > >> >> >> of > >> >> >> these first parts of this post before the questions which are > >> >> >> essentially > >> >> >> useless except for the table of contents so you can use "Find" > >> >> >> perhaps > >> >> >> to > >> >> >> get > >> >> >> to a question easier and know what its about beforehand .... I also > >> >> >> hope > >> >> >> im > >> >> >> forgiven for long sections with runalong scentences and other > >> >> >> grammatical > >> >> >> errors .... > >> >> >> > >> >> >> BUT I WOULD APPRECIATE THE HELP GREATLY AND WITH UNMEASURED > >> >> >> GRATTITUDE > >> >> >> if > >> >> >> the questions are answered by the time I need them or eliminate THE > >> >> >> 48hr > >> >> >> and > >> >> >> 12pm deadline for some of my options related to the questions below > >> >> >> to > >> >> >> be > >> >> >> affordable or avalible to me. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Noone at any other forum has taken time to answer not 1 question, > >> >> >> even > >> >> >> the simplest ones for somone who knows computers better than me, > >> >> >> and I > >> >> >> really should of just come here first. You guys know your stuff , I > >> >> >> just > >> >> >> frequent music composition related forums like KVRaudio.com and > >> >> >> Cakewalk.com's Sonar > >> >> >> forum a lot... So.. ) : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Once again I can't express my sincere grattitude to anyone whom can > >> >> >> help > >> >> >> answer these questions in reasonable detail (doesn't have to be > >> >> >> long > >> >> >> and > >> >> >> elaborative just make sure it's not vauge or something that doesn't > >> >> >> taken > >> >> >> into account my configurations and application for 64x) > >> >> >> > >> >> >> hopefuilly within the next 48 hours somone will help so I'm not > >> >> >> forced > >> >> >> into > >> >> >> making a decision because of a deal or auction expiring etc. ... I > >> >> >> will > >> >> >> love > >> >> >> or if you wish hate you for as long as I remember your screename > >> >> >> (which > >> >> >> might > >> >> >> not be long unless I stay here posting with what help I may offer > >> >> >> to > >> >> >> people > >> >> >> now or in the future or one of the article writers answers me lol). > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> * = 12PM & 48 HOUR DEADLINE APPLIES > >> >> >> > >> >> >> ---I. Basic Information to consider about what I intend to use with > >> >> >> 64x > >> >> >> ---II. Main Things Sonar Relies On. > >> >> >> Questions > >> >> >> --1. What is the Price of the Trial Version's registration to full > >> >> >> version ? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> *--2. I need opinions on if one of these upgrade options is > >> >> >> reasonable. > >> >> >> If I > >> >> >> should at all. If one route is taken Finding a Motherboard with the > >> >> >> right > >> >> >> specs. Trustworthy non-ebay Places to find various components > >> >> >> mentioned > >> >> >> for > >> >> >> cheap. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> --3. Potential Problems w/ 4Gigs+ RAM on 32bit ? , Xeons with 1MB > >> >> >> L2 > >> >> >> 800FSB > >> >> >> Cache CPU performance questions, and Silent and other Cooling > >> >> >> Options > >> >> >> for > >> >> >> Xeons running on 32bit and 64bit O/S (since 64x will be more > >> >> >> intense) > >> >> >> > >> >> >> --4. Mixing DDR2 DIMM Pairs ? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> --5. Questions 5 - are reatively simply put and short. That do > >> >> >> not > >> >> >> require > >> >> >> a lot of elaboration on anyones part I would assume. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> -III. The Pointless Soapbox Ranting and complaining about the > >> >> >> progression > >> >> >> of > >> >> >> my problem (and how things came to be this way i.e. 3 hours to make > >> >> >> a > >> >> >> decision and less than 48 for the others) > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I hope somone can work their magic .. Thanks in advance to anyone > >> >> >> whom > >> >> >> takes > >> >> >> time to answer some or all of these questions. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> __________________________________________________ _______________ > >> >> >> Some basic info to consider about what I intend to use with 64x > >> >> >> > >> >> >> its more or less mentioned in the questions but less detailed and > >> >> >> if > >> >> >> you > >> >> >> arent familliar with what recording applications and their DX, MX > >> >> >> and > >> >> >> VST > >> >> >> plugins rely on then you might wanna skim through it or read > >> >> >> cakewalk's > >> >> >> article. It is rather interesting and a very good detailed account > >> >> >> of > >> >> >> 64x > >> >> >> used on a system .. they claim a 3.xx ghz processors runs more like > >> >> >> a > >> >> >> 4.xx with such a clean exclusive system and 64bit technology > >> >> >> ::shrugs:: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Just so you know my main intention is to use Cakewalk Sonar 5: > >> >> >> http://cakewalk.com/Products/sonar/x64.asp for infomation ... > >> >> >> Microsoft > >> >> >> also |
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LOL!
I think you hit the nail on the head there John!-- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm "John Barnes" <> wrote in message news:%237XtuXe$... >I think just off his meds. > > > "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <> wrote in message > news:uTFuEQe$... >> Are you a journalist Davien? >> -- >> Andre >> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com >> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre >> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta >> FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm >> >> "DavienC" <> wrote in message >> news:F2F0E425-2B19-4645-875A-... >>> Ok now that its understood things became a mess because the first >>> notification I got was a rude remark from Charlie promting me to read >>> and >>> reply to most of the newer posts first .. Though even his first posts >>> were >>> attacks unfortunantely .. But Lets try this your way I'll post shorter >>> version of each question 1 per thread. >>> >>> The reason I posted them all in one Thread BTW is it is all in relation >>> to >>> the same exact thing. The questions relate to each other. That will be >>> more >>> clear if you look at the post where i shortend the questions dramaticly. >>> >>> If any of you are willing to take into account that all the questions >>> are 1 >>> big question technically because they affect each other and refer to one >>> another. And I wont bother reposting the short version as singular >>> threads >>> that will get confusion because of their correlation to each other. >>> >>> Please reply on the shorter version or wherever if any of you will >>> actually >>> consider helping me now that everyone knows how this got out of control. >>> Confusing and so forth .. >>> >>> Either way I am going to seek help elsewhere I still stand by coming >>> here >>> because of your knowledge on 64x is what your here for >> >> > > |
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OK, nobody got this one. Sigh.
-- Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine] (Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested) "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message news:eNMhULd$... >I only know of Peary and Scott. > > -- > Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine] > (Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested) > "DavienC" <> wrote in message > news:34D9C30D-0CC4-4421-B58E-... >> Theres no embarassment here on my part. Many of the worlds famous leaders >> and >> artists were bi-polar and used it to their advantage (Honest Abe, Winston >> Churchill, Napoleon) .. or in many of the artists (Kurt Cobain, Virginia >> Wolfe, Edgar Allen Poe, Winters, most likely Trent Reznor) cases >> died/killed >> themself over it sadly. >> >> I was just giving a reply that may better explain such a lengthy post, >> Medication that speeds you up makes you talkitive, however I'm still not >> quite sure what was rude unless it was simply the lengthy questions and >> post >> itself. >> >> As far as addressing it in the proper place i'd probably laugh pretty >> hard >> at anyone offended by me being open about myself publicly. I make light >> of it >> on my blogs, Scanned my pills the other day, labled it as breakfast and >> went >> on with that ... It's good to have sense of humor about things, I know >> people >> who are dying who can joke about it ::shrugs:: >> >> >> >> >> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote: >> >>> I feel sorry for your problems, but these are things you need to address >>> in >>> an appropriate place. >>> >>> -- >>> Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine] >>> (Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested) >>> "DavienC" <> wrote in message >>> news 2EBCEE8-2EE4-457A-B727-...>>> > >>> > By the way, your expecting somone who is Ultra Rapid Cycling Bi-Polar >>> > 2 >>> > (which is something I could get on SSI b/c it's listed as a Disability >>> > but >>> > I >>> > choose not to let my musical talent go to waste or to accept gov. >>> > money >>> > when >>> > I can easily make plenty on my own), An Anxiety Disorder, Major >>> > Depression, >>> > and ADD who posted the message around when he first took (also the >>> > fact I >>> > take): >>> > - 60mg of Adderall (D-Amphetamine / Amphetamine mixed Salts) >>> > - 50mg of Lamictal (The Only True Mood Stabilizer other than Lithium) >>> > - The first of 3 0.5mg Klonopins (Second strongest Anti-Anxiety/Benzo >>> > to >>> > Xanax) >>> > - 300mg of Wellbutrin (the highest or 2nd highest dose of an >>> > Anti-Depressant, Anti Withdrawl, Weight Loss, Alternative treatment >>> > for >>> > ADD, >>> > and Anti Smoking medication sold under the name Zyban .. >>> > Anti-Depressant >>> > is >>> > the reason I take it, apparently I don't have a lot of Dopamine >>> > upstairs.) >>> > - Who had their doctor the previous day tell them they were on more >>> > medication than anyone they treat and still almost entirely reponsive >>> > to >>> > the >>> > anti-depressant measures and that I should be excited about life, >>> > being >>> > 20, >>> > and having accomplished some of what I have. >>> > >>> > But hey a rough life can give you a negative vibe, im sure at least >>> > one of >>> > you may slightly understand how it must feel mentally and physically >>> > when >>> > hitting a low or anxiety driven mixed episode with negative racing >>> > thoughts. >>> > >>> > So excuse me for my bleak outlook and discouragement having spent more >>> > time >>> > than one should of trying to solve this on my own and recieving little >>> > to >>> > no >>> > help from people who owe it to me, strangers whom lazily answer about >>> > their >>> > laziness preventing them to help, Alienware Tech support giving me >>> > enough >>> > grief to had told them very assertively of their nazi like warranty & >>> > that >>> > I >>> > will not longer be a customer of theirs (having known better to be to >>> > begin >>> > with), or "experts" and regulars at this forum that obviously >>> > following >>> > the >>> > prior remarks will have to learn to excuse my Pessismistic attitude >>> > until >>> > my >>> > impression and feeling of people needing help that arent happy and >>> > dandy >>> > are >>> > very unwelcome. It only serves to further support my lack of >>> > confidence in >>> > the rest of the human race to be tollerable for me to withstand having >>> > a >>> > very >>> > low patience threshold for acusations and insults due to lack of >>> > consideration and general one way thinking. In this case one way >>> > optimistic ( >>> > ; where as uncontrollably I can be that or another changing randomly >>> > from >>> > triggers (stress, fustration, insults), or by natural occurance, >>> > between >>> > and >>> > lasting for a matter of a few mins -24 hours with the closest thing to >>> > normal >>> > being 90% of the type Hypomania, which proves usefull in my creative >>> > outlets >>> > but mood swings & Anxiety pretty much kick the social aspect of life >>> > in >>> > the >>> > groin. >>> > >>> > ... But your a Smart Guy, you just come from a different world than I >>> > do >>> > entirely apparently. That doesn't mean we should disrespect one >>> > another or >>> > that your information, articles, and so forth have no been appreciated >>> > beforehand and that unless your going to stubbornly stay true to your >>> > convictions despite the obvious misunderstanding, I would value any >>> > information you are willing you assist me with regarding my initial >>> > post's >>> > questions. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote: >>> > >>> >> that would require that he actually come in with a positive attitude >>> >> and >>> >> use >>> >> his head for something other than a hat rack. He's got all he'll get >>> >> from >>> >> me >>> >> without a change, that's for sure. >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Charlie. >>> >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64 >>> >> >>> >> Colin Barnhorst wrote: >>> >> > No way are volunteers in the newsgroup going to read this waste of >>> >> > bandwidth. What is your question in a single sentence? >>> >> > >>> >> >> I apologize in advance for the length of the 2nd question and for >>> >> >> my >>> >> >> ranting >>> >> >> before any the first one... actually ill move it to the end.... >>> >> >> (feel >>> >> >> free as >>> >> >> I point out below to skip it, unless you just want a good laugh >>> >> >> from >>> >> >> my >>> >> >> complaining/humor about my problems progression), and also for the >>> >> >> length >>> >> >> of >>> >> >> these first parts of this post before the questions which are >>> >> >> essentially >>> >> >> useless except for the table of contents so you can use "Find" >>> >> >> perhaps >>> >> >> to >>> >> >> get >>> >> >> to a question easier and know what its about beforehand .... I >>> >> >> also >>> >> >> hope >>> >> >> im >>> >> >> forgiven for long sections with runalong scentences and other >>> >> >> grammatical >>> >> >> errors .... >>> >> >> >>> >> >> BUT I WOULD APPRECIATE THE HELP GREATLY AND WITH UNMEASURED >>> >> >> GRATTITUDE >>> >> >> if >>> >> >> the questions are answered by the time I need them or eliminate >>> >> >> THE >>> >> >> 48hr >>> >> >> and >>> >> >> 12pm deadline for some of my options related to the questions >>> >> >> below to >>> >> >> be >>> >> >> affordable or avalible to me. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Noone at any other forum has taken time to answer not 1 question, >>> >> >> even >>> >> >> the simplest ones for somone who knows computers better than me, >>> >> >> and I >>> >> >> really should of just come here first. You guys know your stuff , >>> >> >> I >>> >> >> just >>> >> >> frequent music composition related forums like KVRaudio.com and >>> >> >> Cakewalk.com's Sonar >>> >> >> forum a lot... So.. ) : >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Once again I can't express my sincere grattitude to anyone whom >>> >> >> can >>> >> >> help >>> >> >> answer these questions in reasonable detail (doesn't have to be >>> >> >> long >>> >> >> and >>> >> >> elaborative just make sure it's not vauge or something that >>> >> >> doesn't >>> >> >> taken >>> >> >> into account my configurations and application for 64x) >>> >> >> >>> >> >> hopefuilly within the next 48 hours somone will help so I'm not >>> >> >> forced >>> >> >> into >>> >> >> making a decision because of a deal or auction expiring etc. ... I >>> >> >> will >>> >> >> love >>> >> >> or if you wish hate you for as long as I remember your screename >>> >> >> (which >>> >> >> might >>> >> >> not be long unless I stay here posting with what help I may offer >>> >> >> to >>> >> >> people >>> >> >> now or in the future or one of the article writers answers me >>> >> >> lol). >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> * = 12PM & 48 HOUR DEADLINE APPLIES >>> >> >> >>> >> >> ---I. Basic Information to consider about what I intend to use >>> >> >> with >>> >> >> 64x >>> >> >> ---II. Main Things Sonar Relies On. >>> >> >> Questions >>> >> >> --1. What is the Price of the Trial Version's registration to full >>> >> >> version ? >>> >> >> >>> >> >> *--2. I need opinions on if one of these upgrade options is >>> >> >> reasonable. >>> >> >> If I >>> >> >> should at all. If one route is taken Finding a Motherboard with >>> >> >> the >>> >> >> right >>> >> >> specs. Trustworthy non-ebay Places to find various components >>> >> >> mentioned >>> >> >> for >>> >> >> cheap. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> --3. Potential Problems w/ 4Gigs+ RAM on 32bit ? , Xeons with 1MB >>> >> >> L2 >>> >> >> 800FSB >>> >> >> Cache CPU performance questions, and Silent and other Cooling >>> >> >> Options >>> >> >> for >>> >> >> Xeons running on 32bit and 64bit O/S (since 64x will be more >>> >> >> intense) >>> >> >> >>> >> >> --4. Mixing DDR2 DIMM Pairs ? >>> >> >> >>> >> >> --5. Questions 5 - are reatively simply put and short. That do >>> >> >> not >>> >> >> require >>> >> >> a lot of elaboration on anyones part I would assume. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> -III. The Pointless Soapbox Ranting and complaining about the >>> >> >> progression >>> >> >> of >>> >> >> my problem (and how things came to be this way i.e. 3 hours to >>> >> >> make a >>> >> >> decision and less than 48 for the others) >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> I hope somone can work their magic .. Thanks in advance to anyone >>> >> >> whom >>> >> >> takes >>> >> >> time to answer some or all of these questions. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> __________________________________________________ _______________ >>> >> >> Some basic info to consider about what I intend to use with 64x >>> >> >> >>> >> >> its more or less mentioned in the questions but less detailed and >>> >> >> if >>> >> >> you >>> >> >> arent familliar with what recording applications and their DX, MX >>> >> >> and >>> >> >> VST >>> >> >> plugins rely on then you might wanna skim through it or read >>> >> >> cakewalk's >>> >> >> article. It is rather interesting and a very good detailed account >>> >> >> of >>> >> >> 64x >>> >> >> used on a system .. they claim a 3.xx ghz processors runs more >>> >> >> like a >>> >> >> 4.xx with such a clean exclusive system and 64bit technology >>> >> >> ::shrugs:: >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Just so you know my main intention is to use Cakewalk Sonar 5: >>> >> >> http://cakewalk.com/Products/sonar/x64.asp for infomation ... >>> >> >> Microsoft >>> >> >> also >>> >> >> has benchmarks and such for Sonar 5 on the 64x site i beleive, I >>> >> >> think >>> >> >> its linked somewhere on Cakewalk.com. It is the first and only >>> >> >> 64bit >>> >> >> Professional >>> >> >> Recording Software used by homestudios (usually studio version) >>> >> >> and >>> >> >> mid-level >>> >> >> to million dollar major label rented or owned studios with PCs >>> >> >> instead >>> >> >> of >>> >> >> crapintosh G5s.As is the trend at the moment, hence why protools >>> >> >> is >>> >> >> migrating >>> >> >> more to windows than it has since the 90s and its fairly recent >>> >> >> first >>> >> >> windows >>> >> >> versions period. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Audio Composition, Sampling, Playback, 16bit - 64bit audio up to >>> >> >> 96 >>> >> >> Khz >>> >> >> ... >>> >> >> in my case since I'm authoring for CD I use 32bit recording depth >>> >> >> (64bit >>> >> >> offers different options I havent gained a lot of knowledge on >>> >> >> yet, >>> >> >> large >>> >> >> manual, bigger than a harry potter book and just as boring ( >>> >> >> ; ), >>> >> >> 24bit >>> >> >> 48000 (DVD Audio or Movie Quality) for recording because of the >>> >> >> virtual >>> >> >> instruments, SPDIF interfaces, and such ... Then that is dithered >>> >> >> down >>> >> >> with >>> >> >> top of the line technology to preserve almost 100% of that quality >>> >> >> (as >>> >> >> you hear blatantly on any new CD especially from the extreme >>> >> >> digital >>> >> >> coldness of >>> >> >> the mixes) to 16bit 44100 khz in .wav or broadcast .wav format as >>> >> >> standard for CD Audio. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> The Main things Sonar relies on: >>> >> >> >>> >> >> - Hard Drives ability for Fast Data Transfer from Disk to the >>> >> >> program >>> >> >> for >>> >> >> Audio Playback. Defragmentation is also very important. SATA, USB >>> >> >> 2.0, >>> >> >> Firewire, 16mb Cache at 7200rpm, & 10,000rpm drives at 8mb or 16mb >>> >> >> ... >>> >> >> or >>> >> >> SCSI at 15,000rpm despite the small sizes are all Ideal for this. >>> >> >> However >>> >> >> Video applications benefit from different types of RAID such as >>> >> >> the >>> >> >> ones >>> >> >> that >>> >> >> combine drives or failsafe set ups this is not the case with Sonar >>> >> >> because many plugins even suggest a deticated drive, Sonar >>> >> >> recommends >>> >> >> it >>> >> >> be installed >>> >> >> on a disk seperate from the OS, and other such factors. So backups >>> >> >> via >>> >> >> mass >>> >> >> quanities of DVD-RWs (I need to get a dual layer writer seriously >>> >> >> or >>> >> >> Bluray >>> >> >> needs to come out lol), external drives, or a disk drive exclusive >>> >> >> for >>> >> >> backups, even an PATA drive, as long as it has enough space to >>> >> >> hold a >>> >> >> daily >>> >> >> incremental or other style of backup of only your audio projects, >>> >> >> they >>> >> >> are not re-installable or replacable (not all ideas will stick in >>> >> >> memory >>> >> >> if they >>> >> >> arent frequently heard and the perfect take may never happen >>> >> >> again) >>> >> >> ... >>> >> >> its >>> >> >> expensive for datarecovery from a bad disk .. and prevention is >>> >> >> the >>> >> >> best >>> >> >> investment. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> - Latency of the Drivers ASIO being the best. I can get 1ms >>> >> >> latency in >>> >> >> certain lighter load situations. This is also dependant on the >>> >> >> hardware >>> >> >> and >>> >> >> my interface, the M-Audio Delta 1010 (Rack Mount & Card not LT >>> >> >> Card) >>> >> >> has >>> >> >> 64bit drivers already and is considered the flagship interface for >>> >> >> windows recording hardware hands down. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> - RAM is the most important thing for Sonar for somone who uses it >>> >> >> for >>> >> >> the style of music I create. Its essential for plugins (enough >>> >> >> that >>> >> >> there are rack mounted DSP Modules, tailored RAM for DSP enabled >>> >> >> plugins), sampling (a > > |
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Gosh looks like shakespeare cursing or something. No wonder you never got any
help from the other forums sir.  No offence but you need a complete changeover of attitude I feel. "DavienC" wrote: > if it wasnt for your childish insult sometime after this along with "a waste > of bandwidth" that may of very well surpassed my single post in proclaimed > pointlessness by one of your peers .. I may have been able to comply with > this request If I was actually logged in when you posted it, but instead you > attacked somone who was logged off. Let alone somone who had no idea that it > was rude to post a lengthy post (as ive stated) on boards. > > Arent you supposed to be the professional guy ? Act like it. Because you > have a 20 year old being than that than the lot of you to attempt to untangle > this web of borderline-slander & insults your peers and yourself have weaved > hence forth from this post on with absolutely no consideration ... Replying > to your own replies with this type of thing. > > "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote: > > > Frankly, with an attitude like that, I have no interest in helping you. Try > > asking a simple question, one to a message, without attitude, and you'll > > find that there are lots of helpful people here. > > > > There is no "trial version registration to full version". You buy x64 > > Edition and do an in place upgrade from the trial, or if the trial has > > expired, a repair install. You get your x64 Edition from your favourite > > system builder, or online at an outlet that also builds systems such as: > > www.ncix.com > > www.directron.com > > www.newegg.com > > www.zipzoomfly.com > > > > All have been reported by those here to provide good service and good > > prices. > > > > -- > > Charlie. > > http://msmvps.com/xperts64 > > > > DavienC wrote: > > > I apologize in advance for the length of the 2nd question and for my > > > ranting before any the first one... actually ill move it to the end.... > > > (feel free as I point out below to skip it, unless you just want a good > > > laugh from my complaining/humor about my problems progression), and also > > > for the length of these first parts of this post before the questions > > > which are essentially useless except for the table of contents so you can > > > use "Find" perhaps to get to a question easier and know what its about > > > beforehand .... I also hope im forgiven for long sections with runalong > > > scentences and other grammatical errors .... > > > > > > BUT I WOULD APPRECIATE THE HELP GREATLY AND WITH UNMEASURED GRATTITUDE if > > > the questions are answered by the time I need them or eliminate THE 48hr > > > and 12pm deadline for some of my options related to the questions below > > > to be affordable or avalible to me. > > > > > > Noone at any other forum has taken time to answer not 1 question, even the > > > simplest ones for somone who knows computers better than me, and I really > > > should of just come here first. You guys know your stuff , I just frequent > > > music composition related forums like KVRaudio.com and Cakewalk.com's > > > Sonar forum a lot... So.. ) : > > > > > > Once again I can't express my sincere grattitude to anyone whom can help > > > answer these questions in reasonable detail (doesn't have to be long and > > > elaborative just make sure it's not vauge or something that doesn't taken > > > into account my configurations and application for 64x) > > > > > > hopefuilly within the next 48 hours somone will help so I'm not forced > > > into making a decision because of a deal or auction expiring etc. ... I > > > will love or if you wish hate you for as long as I remember your > > > screename (which might not be long unless I stay here posting with what > > > help I may offer to people now or in the future or one of the article > > > writers answers me lol). > > > > > > > > > * = 12PM & 48 HOUR DEADLINE APPLIES > > > > > > ---I. Basic Information to consider about what I intend to use with 64x > > > ---II. Main Things Sonar Relies On. > > > Questions > > > --1. What is the Price of the Trial Version's registration to full > > > version ? > > > > > > *--2. I need opinions on if one of these upgrade options is reasonable. > > > If I should at all. If one route is taken Finding a Motherboard with the > > > right specs. Trustworthy non-ebay Places to find various components > > > mentioned for cheap. > > > > > > --3. Potential Problems w/ 4Gigs+ RAM on 32bit ? , Xeons with 1MB L2 > > > 800FSB Cache CPU performance questions, and Silent and other Cooling > > > Options for Xeons running on 32bit and 64bit O/S (since 64x will be more > > > intense) > > > > > > --4. Mixing DDR2 DIMM Pairs ? > > > > > > --5. Questions 5 - are reatively simply put and short. That do not > > > require a lot of elaboration on anyones part I would assume. > > > > > > -III. The Pointless Soapbox Ranting and complaining about the progression > > > of my problem (and how things came to be this way i.e. 3 hours to make a > > > decision and less than 48 for the others) > > > > > > > > > I hope somone can work their magic .. Thanks in advance to anyone whom > > > takes time to answer some or all of these questions. > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ _______________ > > > Some basic info to consider about what I intend to use with 64x > > > > > > its more or less mentioned in the questions but less detailed and if you > > > arent familliar with what recording applications and their DX, MX and VST > > > plugins rely on then you might wanna skim through it or read cakewalk's > > > article. It is rather interesting and a very good detailed account of 64x > > > used on a system .. they claim a 3.xx ghz processors runs more like a 4.xx > > > with such a clean exclusive system and 64bit technology ::shrugs:: > > > > > > Just so you know my main intention is to use Cakewalk Sonar 5: > > > http://cakewalk.com/Products/sonar/x64.asp for infomation ... Microsoft > > > also has benchmarks and such for Sonar 5 on the 64x site i beleive, I > > > think its linked somewhere on Cakewalk.com. It is the first and only > > > 64bit Professional Recording Software used by homestudios (usually studio > > > version) and mid-level to million dollar major label rented or owned > > > studios with PCs instead of crapintosh G5s.As is the trend at the moment, > > > hence why protools is migrating more to windows than it has since the 90s > > > and its fairly recent first windows versions period. > > > > > > Audio Composition, Sampling, Playback, 16bit - 64bit audio up to 96 Khz > > > ... in my case since I'm authoring for CD I use 32bit recording depth > > > (64bit offers different options I havent gained a lot of knowledge on > > > yet, large manual, bigger than a harry potter book and just as boring ( > > > ; ), 24bit 48000 (DVD Audio or Movie Quality) for recording because of > > > the virtual instruments, SPDIF interfaces, and such ... Then that is > > > dithered down with top of the line technology to preserve almost 100% of > > > that quality (as you hear blatantly on any new CD especially from the > > > extreme digital coldness of the mixes) to 16bit 44100 khz in .wav or > > > broadcast .wav format as standard for CD Audio. > > > > > > The Main things Sonar relies on: > > > > > > - Hard Drives ability for Fast Data Transfer from Disk to the program for > > > Audio Playback. Defragmentation is also very important. SATA, USB 2.0, > > > Firewire, 16mb Cache at 7200rpm, & 10,000rpm drives at 8mb or 16mb ... or > > > SCSI at 15,000rpm despite the small sizes are all Ideal for this. However > > > Video applications benefit from different types of RAID such as the ones > > > that combine drives or failsafe set ups this is not the case with Sonar > > > because many plugins even suggest a deticated drive, Sonar recommends it > > > be installed on a disk seperate from the OS, and other such factors. So > > > backups via mass quanities of DVD-RWs (I need to get a dual layer writer > > > seriously or Bluray needs to come out lol), external drives, or a disk > > > drive exclusive for backups, even an PATA drive, as long as it has enough > > > space to hold a daily incremental or other style of backup of only your > > > audio projects, they are not re-installable or replacable (not all ideas > > > will stick in memory if they arent frequently heard and the perfect take > > > may never happen again) ... its expensive for datarecovery from a bad > > > disk .. and prevention is the best investment. > > > > > > - Latency of the Drivers ASIO being the best. I can get 1ms latency in > > > certain lighter load situations. This is also dependant on the hardware > > > and my interface, the M-Audio Delta 1010 (Rack Mount & Card not LT Card) > > > has 64bit drivers already and is considered the flagship interface for > > > windows recording hardware hands down. > > > > > > - RAM is the most important thing for Sonar for somone who uses it for the > > > style of music I create. Its essential for plugins (enough that there are > > > rack mounted DSP Modules, tailored RAM for DSP enabled plugins), sampling > > > (a lot of virtual instruments and surround sound plugins rely on this > > > greatly... they are also disk trashing and CPU intensive) ... The More > > > Ram the Less CPU stress, trust me it can already use 100% of one CPU + > > > 25% of the second to 100% of both when doing something such as Time > > > Stretching or when several tracks are involved... the problem also stems > > > from resource hogs like anti-virus, services for programs I installed > > > that cant be killed, and selective startup only frees up 4% more RAM when > > > I'm idle 84% is what I get with only the necessary processes before Sonar > > > is run ... Right now even with WMP10, Norton, Avant Browser, Soundblaster > > > and the Delta's contyrol panels in the system tray, diskeepers service, > > > AOL's stupid unkillable processes like hostmanager, port magic, my > > > lan/cable connection, my 56k modem for a fax and answering machine > > > program, amongst other useless things FreeRAMPro says I have 83% RAM > > > Free, and oddly enough Cakewalk and several programs almost never use the > > > Pagingfile, which I have on a seperate disk in majority ... nothing > > > changes when it is disabled either except for a crash when RAM usage > > > spikes to 100% or FreeRAMPro's setting for auto-matic freeing is on when > > > ram drops below 128 incessantly starts to run which uses CPU stressing > > > them because of the infinite cycle of trying to free ram that cant be > > > stopped because of the lock up or lag the computer crashes period unless > > > I luck out and only sonar does or I remember to turn it off (or make sure > > > the process ended after explorer crashed as it often does). > > > > > > - CPU Cakewalk would say, CPU is important for playback, the programs > > > stability and speed itself, and the load of various functions unrelated to > > > memory storage and recall like ram or paging files. More RAM is good for > > > lots of plugins and Samples .. and CPU is good for handling those tracks > > > with lots of plugins or raw audio in general, Rewiew devices, and > > > simeltaneous audio playback on projects with large numbers of tracks. So > > > in short the more CPU the better. > > > > > > NOTEL:Benchmarks (such as the one on Dell.com for example, their personal > > > benchmark, and on several sites that consistently change their minds with > > > each advancement) have shown on several sites that Dual XEON 3.60Ghz 2mb > > > L2 Cache 800FSB+ processors are faster than the current highest Dualcore > > > Processors. > > > > > > I only have Dual 3.20ghz Xeon with 1mb L2 Caches and hope to get more out > > > of them until I can get the $2000 or so needed to replace them with dual > > > 3.80ghz or a better dualcore that may come along (or upgrade to AMD if > > > AMD becomes signficantly better for Audio Apps. Which doesn't seem to be > > > very biased with either brand from what ive read despite AMDs > > > endorsements from never heard of b level signed > > > artists/engineers/producers) > > > __________________________________________________ ________________ > > > > > > > > > Question #1 > > > > > > I have seen 64x avalible for practicaly nothing more than 32bit when > > > buying > > > a computer with it pre-installed, $110 - $400 depending on the site, if > > > it's OEM, OEM3, or a Boxed Version or whatever. > > > > > > I have my trial version, I have not had a chance to install it yet. I am > > > in the process of deciding if buying a new PC in order work my way up to > > > 8 - 16GB of DDR2 RAM is worth it to get the most our of Cakewalk Sonar 5 > > > Producer Edition (which runs extraordinarily well and is the first and > > > only 64bit Professional Recording Application/Sequencer).. So I kinda > > > need to know the price so I don't screw myself over somehow, and I can't > > > seem to find it anywhere on the site about buying a key after the trial. > > > > > > __________________________________________________ _______________ > > > 2nd Question. > > > > > > I currently have an Alienware m12-7550i , one before they stopped shipping > > > them with the Cool Looking (so some) big alien cases with lights and such. > > > Alienware's support team tried talking me into upgrading my motherboard, > > > processors, and Ram for their Dual Opteron System but it would cost more > > > than selling my system for what I bought it for + what I have added to it > > > + maybe a few $100 more in order to upgrade it. Not to mention they wont > > > allow me to upgrade to the liquid cooling system built for my system > > > simply because of the different case they are promoting even though the > > > chasis is identical and the cooling system fits my system's case (there > > > isnt really much of a difference at all). They've given me so much grief > > > over not allowing me to upgrade things, tried to misquote me in support > > > tickets to get my warranty voided so I couldn't get my RAM replaced, and > > > though the system runs great aside from the noisy xeon fans I cannot > > > stand Alienware anymore. > > > > > > The Current System I have has > > > - 1 internal 400GB SATA 8mb Cache > > > - 1 internal 400GB SATA 16mb Cache (for the audio applications) > > > - 2 X 80 GB USB Drives for backing up project files and 1 is exclusively > > > for 2 pluginsthat suggest having a deticated drive because of how intense > > > they are on resources. > > > -Dual 3.20ghz Processors with a 1mb L2 Cache 800FSB , its the EM64t > > > (spelling?) compatible ones... or whatever for use with 64x Windows. > > > - 2GB (2 Dimms) of Dual Channel DDR2 PC3200 SDRAM 400mhz > > > - Alienware's (Custom iWill) X2 Motherboard 6 SATA Channels, 2 IDE > > > Channels, SLI compatibility .. etc.. You can look it up at Alienware.com > > > or under info in the configuration for an M12 there for more detailed > > > specs.. > > > - 256mb Nvidia Geforce 6800 > > > - Soundblaster Audigy ZS 2 > > > - M-Audio Delta 1010 Rack Mounted Recording Interface & PCI/PCI-X Card > > > > > > and well the rest of the information is not really rellevant really to the > > > question. > > > > > > Do you guys think it would be worth it to spend almost $2000 even on a > > > Dell Percision 670 as a replacment and to swap parts with (if the dell > > > motherboard and power supply fit the alienware case its going in there > > > btw because of the cooling system and acoustic dampening/foam): > > > - 1 2.80ghz 2mb L2 800 FSB Pentium Xeon (which I will sell and replace > > > with the 2 Xeons from the Alienware) > > > - 2GB (2 DIMMS) of DDR2 PC3200 SDRAM 400mhz (which I will combine with the > > > RAM from the Alienware to total 4 for the time being) .. The System can > > > Hold 16mb total RAM however at the time buying it with that much costs an > > > extra $18,000 so we're not going to go that route needless to say. > > > > > > - A Free 19 inch Ultra Sharp (i think those are the plasma flatscreens for > > > dell) with the computer I plan to sell or to replace my 17inch LCD screen > > > with and sell that ... either would make me around 3 or 4 hundred bucks. > > > (which makes the system really worth it imo because that money can be put > > > into more RAM or other components) > > > > > > - 1 160GB SATA 16mb Databurst (what is databurst btw) Cache 7200rpm HD > > > - Generic CD Drive I will replace along with the empty slots with my > > > Burners from the alienware (which originally came from a Dell Dimension > > > 84000 anyway). > > > > > > - The Case is supposively quiet, but ive heard a Dimension XPS before and > > > those sound like an F'n Airplane. But I have Vantec Silent Fans I could > > > steal out the Alienware and put into the case if needed not like they are > > > expensive anyway. > > > > > > - It has PCI Express and other high end card slots, I think about the same > > > amount as the alienware (several more USB and Firewire ports though). > > > > > > - a 2TB Total SATA Storage Capacity > > > > > > and plenty of other nice features... I could also go with the Dell > > > Precision 670 nicknamed with a MT64 after it, no differences other than > > > the options you can have installed with the system (such as the maximum > > > amount of RAM, different software) except for one reallyyyyy big turn off > > > and thats they dont honor the free 19inch with that one just because it's > > > in the catagory for large buisnesses instead of Small to Medium > > > Buisnesses. So Instead I'm going with the Windows XP Professional Service |
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