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SO should I dual boot, since my system doesn't work?

 
 
Colin Nowell
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      12-04-2005
Oh dear....

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> Unfortunately, the large shrink wrapped package wasn't big enough for me
> not to misplace (lose) it



 
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      12-08-2005
I dunno, when I went to the homepage for x64,
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/default.mspx I saw nothing but good.
I realize no-one should shoot themselves in the foot when it comes to
software sales, but for some reason in my mind ready for prime time maens
"works"! I hope the vendors get to work and create drivers that work soon,
but Microsoft can afford to write drivers. They work on drivers for
prefferred vendors and made sure to support enough video cards to display
their logo at startup. I am just a little disappointed once again in what
seems to be a rush to market at consumers expense. In case it matters, it
took me 3 tries to get a modem that only works 80% of the time, so if you are
paying attention my scanner doesn't work, my modem works sometimes, my
printer works halfway and for no reason at all, Internet explorer won't
recieve focus unless you close all windows above it - (wierd). I've been
pretty patient and am getting tired of waiting for it to work. I will just
go out and buy another copy of XPPro and a couple hard drives and get it over
with, just a pain and I feel betrayed once again.

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

> 32-bit drivers do not run by design. XP64 is more than ready for prime
> time, but not as a consumer OS. It is simply not the latest and greatest
> consumer product. It meets the demands of the professional market for a
> 64-bit client OS for workstations and high end desktops where the greater
> headroom of the 64-bit processors is valuable and where memory constraints
> were cramping several classes of professional software. I have not seen a
> fervency to market this OS. It isn't even available in a boxed edition to
> market.
>
> --
> Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
> (Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
> "Concreteman" <> wrote in message
> news:581A857E-99E4-4314-87B6-...
> > Thanks for your reply, I do understand hardware vendors are responsible
> > for
> > their own drivers, I still belive Microsoft's X64 is not quite ready for
> > prime time. On the Microsoft site they are feverishly marketing X64 and
> > list
> > the top 5 reasons why to deploy, they forget to mention the many reasons
> > why
> > businesses can't afford it. I am suprised Microsoft hasn't created a
> > compatibility mode or some way to run 32 bit drivers while we wait for the
> > manufacturers to catch up.
> > Thanks again for your reply, I klnow I feel better, I was really just
> > loooking to vent - although I would love to find aswers.
> >
> > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, I would dual boot.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
> >> (Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
> >> "Concreteman" <> wrote in message
> >> news:82723B13-E7C5-4B0C-82E3-...
> >> >I figured x64 had been out for a while, ought to be stable. Last system
> >> >I
> >> > bought I figured why not, now it seems every thing I try fails badly.
> >> >
> >> > I have a fujitsu 15C scanner - no 64 bit drivers
> >> > Samsung color duplex printer - no duplex
> >> > PDF EFX print drivers, broke, buy some new ones or wait
> >> > Bluetooth adapter, no drivers
> >> > Windows fax, won't pull addresses from outlook
> >> >
> >> > So at this point it seems my easiest option is to buy another hard
> >> > drive
> >> > and
> >> > dual boot to XP Pro when I want to get work done, or boot to x64 when I
> >> > want
> >> > to use a solid 64 bit OS that doesn't work.
> >> >
> >> > I might seem a little nasty, but I am kinda frustrated. I have some
> >> > other
> >> > issues, but if I could at least get the scanner working I can quit
> >> > thinking
> >> > of it as a paper wieght. I think the printer issue will be resolved
> >> > soon
> >> > enough, and as for Microsoft Fax I am thinking about buying a "real
> >> > solution", or get it working somehow.
> >> >
> >> > If anyone has a workaround for the scanpartner 15C I would be forever
> >> > grateful.
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>
>

 
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Colin Barnhorst
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      12-08-2005
It wasn't rushed to market at any consumer's expense. It was never offered
to consumers. It was released to meet needs in specialized markets. The
only 'consumers' who can even find it are enthusiasts like us who know how
to find such things.

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"Concreteman" <> wrote in message
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>I dunno, when I went to the homepage for x64,
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/default.mspx I saw nothing but
> good.
> I realize no-one should shoot themselves in the foot when it comes to
> software sales, but for some reason in my mind ready for prime time maens
> "works"! I hope the vendors get to work and create drivers that work soon,
> but Microsoft can afford to write drivers. They work on drivers for
> prefferred vendors and made sure to support enough video cards to display
> their logo at startup. I am just a little disappointed once again in what
> seems to be a rush to market at consumers expense. In case it matters, it
> took me 3 tries to get a modem that only works 80% of the time, so if you
> are
> paying attention my scanner doesn't work, my modem works sometimes, my
> printer works halfway and for no reason at all, Internet explorer won't
> recieve focus unless you close all windows above it - (wierd). I've been
> pretty patient and am getting tired of waiting for it to work. I will
> just
> go out and buy another copy of XPPro and a couple hard drives and get it
> over
> with, just a pain and I feel betrayed once again.
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>
>> 32-bit drivers do not run by design. XP64 is more than ready for prime
>> time, but not as a consumer OS. It is simply not the latest and greatest
>> consumer product. It meets the demands of the professional market for a
>> 64-bit client OS for workstations and high end desktops where the greater
>> headroom of the 64-bit processors is valuable and where memory
>> constraints
>> were cramping several classes of professional software. I have not seen
>> a
>> fervency to market this OS. It isn't even available in a boxed edition
>> to
>> market.
>>
>> --
>> Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
>> (Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
>> "Concreteman" <> wrote in message
>> news:581A857E-99E4-4314-87B6-...
>> > Thanks for your reply, I do understand hardware vendors are responsible
>> > for
>> > their own drivers, I still belive Microsoft's X64 is not quite ready
>> > for
>> > prime time. On the Microsoft site they are feverishly marketing X64
>> > and
>> > list
>> > the top 5 reasons why to deploy, they forget to mention the many
>> > reasons
>> > why
>> > businesses can't afford it. I am suprised Microsoft hasn't created a
>> > compatibility mode or some way to run 32 bit drivers while we wait for
>> > the
>> > manufacturers to catch up.
>> > Thanks again for your reply, I klnow I feel better, I was really just
>> > loooking to vent - although I would love to find aswers.
>> >
>> > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Yes, I would dual boot.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
>> >> (Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
>> >> "Concreteman" <> wrote in message
>> >> news:82723B13-E7C5-4B0C-82E3-...
>> >> >I figured x64 had been out for a while, ought to be stable. Last
>> >> >system
>> >> >I
>> >> > bought I figured why not, now it seems every thing I try fails
>> >> > badly.
>> >> >
>> >> > I have a fujitsu 15C scanner - no 64 bit drivers
>> >> > Samsung color duplex printer - no duplex
>> >> > PDF EFX print drivers, broke, buy some new ones or wait
>> >> > Bluetooth adapter, no drivers
>> >> > Windows fax, won't pull addresses from outlook
>> >> >
>> >> > So at this point it seems my easiest option is to buy another hard
>> >> > drive
>> >> > and
>> >> > dual boot to XP Pro when I want to get work done, or boot to x64
>> >> > when I
>> >> > want
>> >> > to use a solid 64 bit OS that doesn't work.
>> >> >
>> >> > I might seem a little nasty, but I am kinda frustrated. I have some
>> >> > other
>> >> > issues, but if I could at least get the scanner working I can quit
>> >> > thinking
>> >> > of it as a paper wieght. I think the printer issue will be resolved
>> >> > soon
>> >> > enough, and as for Microsoft Fax I am thinking about buying a "real
>> >> > solution", or get it working somehow.
>> >> >
>> >> > If anyone has a workaround for the scanpartner 15C I would be
>> >> > forever
>> >> > grateful.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>

>>
>>
>>



 
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Charlie Russel - MVP
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      12-08-2005
MS doesn't write drivers for other folks hardware. MS works with vendors to
help them write drivers, certainly. But the drivers are the vendors
responsibility.

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Concreteman wrote:
> I dunno, when I went to the homepage for x64,
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/default.mspx I saw nothing but
> good. I realize no-one should shoot themselves in the foot when it comes
> to software sales, but for some reason in my mind ready for prime time
> maens "works"! I hope the vendors get to work and create drivers that
> work soon, but Microsoft can afford to write drivers. They work on
> drivers for prefferred vendors and made sure to support enough video
> cards to display their logo at startup. I am just a little disappointed
> once again in what seems to be a rush to market at consumers expense. In
> case it matters, it took me 3 tries to get a modem that only works 80% of
> the time, so if you are paying attention my scanner doesn't work, my
> modem works sometimes, my printer works halfway and for no reason at all,
> Internet explorer won't recieve focus unless you close all windows above
> it - (wierd). I've been pretty patient and am getting tired of waiting
> for it to work. I will just go out and buy another copy of XPPro and a
> couple hard drives and get it over with, just a pain and I feel betrayed
> once again.
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>
>> 32-bit drivers do not run by design. XP64 is more than ready for prime
>> time, but not as a consumer OS. It is simply not the latest and greatest
>> consumer product. It meets the demands of the professional market for a
>> 64-bit client OS for workstations and high end desktops where the greater
>> headroom of the 64-bit processors is valuable and where memory
>> constraints were cramping several classes of professional software. I
>> have not seen a fervency to market this OS. It isn't even available in
>> a boxed edition to market.
>>
>> --
>> Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
>> (Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
>> "Concreteman" <> wrote in message
>> news:581A857E-99E4-4314-87B6-...
>>> Thanks for your reply, I do understand hardware vendors are responsible
>>> for
>>> their own drivers, I still belive Microsoft's X64 is not quite ready for
>>> prime time. On the Microsoft site they are feverishly marketing X64 and
>>> list
>>> the top 5 reasons why to deploy, they forget to mention the many reasons
>>> why
>>> businesses can't afford it. I am suprised Microsoft hasn't created a
>>> compatibility mode or some way to run 32 bit drivers while we wait for
>>> the manufacturers to catch up.
>>> Thanks again for your reply, I klnow I feel better, I was really just
>>> loooking to vent - although I would love to find aswers.
>>>
>>> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, I would dual boot.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
>>>> (Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
>>>> "Concreteman" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:82723B13-E7C5-4B0C-82E3-...
>>>>> I figured x64 had been out for a while, ought to be stable. Last
>>>>> system I
>>>>> bought I figured why not, now it seems every thing I try fails badly.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a fujitsu 15C scanner - no 64 bit drivers
>>>>> Samsung color duplex printer - no duplex
>>>>> PDF EFX print drivers, broke, buy some new ones or wait
>>>>> Bluetooth adapter, no drivers
>>>>> Windows fax, won't pull addresses from outlook
>>>>>
>>>>> So at this point it seems my easiest option is to buy another hard
>>>>> drive
>>>>> and
>>>>> dual boot to XP Pro when I want to get work done, or boot to x64 when
>>>>> I want
>>>>> to use a solid 64 bit OS that doesn't work.
>>>>>
>>>>> I might seem a little nasty, but I am kinda frustrated. I have some
>>>>> other
>>>>> issues, but if I could at least get the scanner working I can quit
>>>>> thinking
>>>>> of it as a paper wieght. I think the printer issue will be resolved
>>>>> soon
>>>>> enough, and as for Microsoft Fax I am thinking about buying a "real
>>>>> solution", or get it working somehow.
>>>>>
>>>>> If anyone has a workaround for the scanpartner 15C I would be forever
>>>>> grateful.



 
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