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OK, ya got me...
 Yeah, I'm O/Cing my 2.0gz 3800x2 to 2.54, which ispretty high, but not unusual for this processor. My ram, with the divider, is at DDR422 or so. CPU temps are steady at around 40C and I've slightly bumped up the CPU voltage. So, upon further review, I see that I may have...ahem... been pushing things a bit when I last crashed, listening to some Merle Haggard whilst distilling a 100 meg PS file along with whatever else was going on... So I do tend to ride my machine just below it's practical stable performance limit. But still, I only seem to crash when I'm playing music, something I'd presume a dual processor should deal with. I can virus scan or defrag or burn a CD and continue to work in InDesign or Outlook or IE like nothing is going on (something that would just slow my P4 at home to a crawl). But throwing on an MP3 seems to make me vulnerable, although it's not chronic, only occasional. So I guess lowering the speed by 5% would help... but what fun is that?... I shouldn't overstate what's happening, when 99% of the time I'm running solid. Overclocking does stress things, obviously, so I should presume that's the root cause. I'm just looking for any tweaks that might help. Thanks... "Charlie Russel - MVP" <> wrote in message news:%... > Dennis -- I do NOT see this on the Ferrari at all. I've got 5 Terminal > sessions open, Outook, OE, excel, 3 word documents, a remote VS session, a > couple of images open, 10 web pages in 32 bit IE, and anther 5 in 64-bit IE, > and I've been listening to some serious music as I work on a final chapter > for the next book. Now it's true, none of the other windows are processor > intensive. But the overall mix is fairly typical of my workday. I've been > running like this all day, and will probably leave it up till I finish off > the chapter tomorrow. I've done several _large_ downloads, I'm running files > back and forth across the network, and this machine is triple-homed -- two > Gb NICs on two different networks, and the wireless on a third. All with > only 1gb of RAM. (Task manager says I'm running right at 996 Mb of commit > charge, so RAM is pretty much used up.) > > My point is -- look for what else could be going on. Maybe some iffy RAM? > Maybe overheating? Are you overclocking at all? > -- > Charlie. > http://msmvps.com/xperts64 > > Dennis Gordon wrote: > > ...in 64 bit, is the same thing that crashes me in 32 bit. It's playing > > music in the background while working in other apps. I usually have many > > things running, often all day without a reboot... InDesign, Photoshop, > > Acrobat, IE, Outlook... whatever. I can run stable all day long doing lots > > of photo work, distilling, network access, FTPing large files, > > downloading... I also like to run some music, usually using Media Player. > > If I do so, sooner or later I'll get a ga-ga-ga-ga-ga-ga stuttering sound > > and a blue screen, say when I'm printing or distilling. It doesn't happen > > often, but I can sense it coming sometimes. Once, maybe twice a day, if > > I'm using MP in the background. Otherwise I'm perfectly stable. I've had > > the same results in XP Pro. > > > > So what is it about media player that freaks out when I'm doing something > > else? It seems to happen when resources are low and memory leaking. Is > > there a good way to avoid this rare but annoying behavior? Does playing > > an MP3 put a strain on the system... is it a bug... should I be using > > Winamp instead? Just curious... > > |
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Which book is it, Server 2003 R2 companion?
 -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm "Charlie Russel - MVP" <> wrote in message news:%... > Dennis -- I do NOT see this on the Ferrari at all. I've got 5 Terminal > sessions open, Outook, OE, excel, 3 word documents, a remote VS session, a > couple of images open, 10 web pages in 32 bit IE, and anther 5 in 64-bit > IE, and I've been listening to some serious music as I work on a final > chapter for the next book. Now it's true, none of the other windows are > processor intensive. But the overall mix is fairly typical of my workday. > I've been running like this all day, and will probably leave it up till I > finish off the chapter tomorrow. I've done several _large_ downloads, I'm > running files back and forth across the network, and this machine is > triple-homed -- two Gb NICs on two different networks, and the wireless on > a third. All with only 1gb of RAM. (Task manager says I'm running right at > 996 Mb of commit charge, so RAM is pretty much used up.) > > My point is -- look for what else could be going on. Maybe some iffy RAM? > Maybe overheating? Are you overclocking at all? > -- > Charlie. > http://msmvps.com/xperts64 > > Dennis Gordon wrote: >> ...in 64 bit, is the same thing that crashes me in 32 bit. It's playing >> music in the background while working in other apps. I usually have many >> things running, often all day without a reboot... InDesign, Photoshop, >> Acrobat, IE, Outlook... whatever. I can run stable all day long doing >> lots >> of photo work, distilling, network access, FTPing large files, >> downloading... I also like to run some music, usually using Media Player. >> If I do so, sooner or later I'll get a ga-ga-ga-ga-ga-ga stuttering sound >> and a blue screen, say when I'm printing or distilling. It doesn't happen >> often, but I can sense it coming sometimes. Once, maybe twice a day, if >> I'm using MP in the background. Otherwise I'm perfectly stable. I've had >> the same results in XP Pro. >> >> So what is it about media player that freaks out when I'm doing something >> else? It seems to happen when resources are low and memory leaking. Is >> there a good way to avoid this rare but annoying behavior? Does playing >> an MP3 put a strain on the system... is it a bug... should I be using >> Winamp instead? Just curious... > > |
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Got ya!
Well, I have no idea why, but apparently something in the music playing is pushing things beyond what you can handle at that OC. I'm guessing, but do you use the onboard audio? If so, dump it and get a good board from Creative or another that has solid x64 drivers. That will offload it from the mobo and cpu much better. -- Charlie. http://msmvps.com/xperts64 Dennis Gordon wrote: > OK, ya got me... Yeah, I'm O/Cing my 2.0gz 3800x2 to 2.54, which is> pretty high, but not unusual for this processor. My ram, with the divider, > is at DDR422 or so. CPU temps are steady at around 40C and I've slightly > bumped up the CPU voltage. So, upon further review, I see that I may > have...ahem... been pushing things a bit when I last crashed, listening to > some Merle Haggard whilst distilling a 100 meg PS file along with whatever > else was going on... > > So I do tend to ride my machine just below it's practical stable > performance limit. But still, I only seem to crash when I'm playing > music, something I'd presume a dual processor should deal with. I can > virus scan or defrag or burn a CD and continue to work in InDesign or > Outlook or IE like nothing is going on (something that would just slow my > P4 at home to a crawl). But throwing on an MP3 seems to make me > vulnerable, although it's not chronic, only occasional. So I guess > lowering the speed by 5% would help... but what fun is that?... > > I shouldn't overstate what's happening, when 99% of the time I'm running > solid. Overclocking does stress things, obviously, so I should presume > that's the root cause. I'm just looking for any tweaks that might help. > Thanks... > > > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <> wrote in message > news:%... >> Dennis -- I do NOT see this on the Ferrari at all. I've got 5 Terminal >> sessions open, Outook, OE, excel, 3 word documents, a remote VS session, >> a couple of images open, 10 web pages in 32 bit IE, and anther 5 in >> 64-bit IE, and I've been listening to some serious music as I work on a >> final chapter for the next book. Now it's true, none of the other >> windows are processor intensive. But the overall mix is fairly typical >> of my workday. I've been running like this all day, and will probably >> leave it up till I finish off the chapter tomorrow. I've done several >> _large_ downloads, I'm running files back and forth across the network, >> and this machine is triple-homed -- two Gb NICs on two different >> networks, and the wireless on a third. All with only 1gb of RAM. (Task >> manager says I'm running right at 996 Mb of commit charge, so RAM is >> pretty much used up.) >> >> My point is -- look for what else could be going on. Maybe some iffy RAM? >> Maybe overheating? Are you overclocking at all? >> -- >> Charlie. >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64 >> >> Dennis Gordon wrote: >>> ...in 64 bit, is the same thing that crashes me in 32 bit. It's playing >>> music in the background while working in other apps. I usually have many >>> things running, often all day without a reboot... InDesign, Photoshop, >>> Acrobat, IE, Outlook... whatever. I can run stable all day long doing >>> lots of photo work, distilling, network access, FTPing large files, >>> downloading... I also like to run some music, usually using Media >>> Player. If I do so, sooner or later I'll get a ga-ga-ga-ga-ga-ga >>> stuttering sound and a blue screen, say when I'm printing or >>> distilling. It doesn't happen often, but I can sense it coming >>> sometimes. Once, maybe twice a day, if I'm using MP in the background. >>> Otherwise I'm perfectly stable. I've had the same results in XP Pro. >>> >>> So what is it about media player that freaks out when I'm doing >>> something else? It seems to happen when resources are low and memory >>> leaking. Is there a good way to avoid this rare but annoying behavior? >>> Does playing an MP3 put a strain on the system... is it a bug... should >>> I be using Winamp instead? Just curious... |
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Yep, I do have the onboard audio. I also have 2 unused Seasound Solo
external A/D interfaces that I could use... if only there were 64 bit drivers, which is unlikely, seeing that they went out of business 5 years ago. They work great with XP Pro. This really isn't a big problem. Why I was just playing some xmas music to the annoyance of many while doing my usual routines with nary a hiccup. Probably the easiest thing is just to turn down the juice on the machine... "Charlie Russel - MVP" <> wrote in message news:uO$... > Got ya! Well, I have no idea why, but apparently something in the music > playing is pushing things beyond what you can handle at that OC. I'm > guessing, but do you use the onboard audio? If so, dump it and get a good > board from Creative or another that has solid x64 drivers. That will > offload it from the mobo and cpu much better. > > -- > Charlie. > http://msmvps.com/xperts64 > > Dennis Gordon wrote: >> OK, ya got me... Yeah, I'm O/Cing my 2.0gz 3800x2 to 2.54, which is>> pretty high, but not unusual for this processor. My ram, with the >> divider, >> is at DDR422 or so. CPU temps are steady at around 40C and I've slightly >> bumped up the CPU voltage. So, upon further review, I see that I may >> have...ahem... been pushing things a bit when I last crashed, listening >> to >> some Merle Haggard whilst distilling a 100 meg PS file along with >> whatever >> else was going on... >> >> So I do tend to ride my machine just below it's practical stable >> performance limit. But still, I only seem to crash when I'm playing >> music, something I'd presume a dual processor should deal with. I can >> virus scan or defrag or burn a CD and continue to work in InDesign or >> Outlook or IE like nothing is going on (something that would just slow my >> P4 at home to a crawl). But throwing on an MP3 seems to make me >> vulnerable, although it's not chronic, only occasional. So I guess >> lowering the speed by 5% would help... but what fun is that?... >> >> I shouldn't overstate what's happening, when 99% of the time I'm running >> solid. Overclocking does stress things, obviously, so I should presume >> that's the root cause. I'm just looking for any tweaks that might help. >> Thanks... >> >> >> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <> wrote in message >> news:%... >>> Dennis -- I do NOT see this on the Ferrari at all. I've got 5 Terminal >>> sessions open, Outook, OE, excel, 3 word documents, a remote VS session, >>> a couple of images open, 10 web pages in 32 bit IE, and anther 5 in >>> 64-bit IE, and I've been listening to some serious music as I work on a >>> final chapter for the next book. Now it's true, none of the other >>> windows are processor intensive. But the overall mix is fairly typical >>> of my workday. I've been running like this all day, and will probably >>> leave it up till I finish off the chapter tomorrow. I've done several >>> _large_ downloads, I'm running files back and forth across the network, >>> and this machine is triple-homed -- two Gb NICs on two different >>> networks, and the wireless on a third. All with only 1gb of RAM. (Task >>> manager says I'm running right at 996 Mb of commit charge, so RAM is >>> pretty much used up.) >>> >>> My point is -- look for what else could be going on. Maybe some iffy >>> RAM? >>> Maybe overheating? Are you overclocking at all? >>> -- >>> Charlie. >>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64 >>> >>> Dennis Gordon wrote: >>>> ...in 64 bit, is the same thing that crashes me in 32 bit. It's playing >>>> music in the background while working in other apps. I usually have >>>> many >>>> things running, often all day without a reboot... InDesign, Photoshop, >>>> Acrobat, IE, Outlook... whatever. I can run stable all day long doing >>>> lots of photo work, distilling, network access, FTPing large files, >>>> downloading... I also like to run some music, usually using Media >>>> Player. If I do so, sooner or later I'll get a ga-ga-ga-ga-ga-ga >>>> stuttering sound and a blue screen, say when I'm printing or >>>> distilling. It doesn't happen often, but I can sense it coming >>>> sometimes. Once, maybe twice a day, if I'm using MP in the background. >>>> Otherwise I'm perfectly stable. I've had the same results in XP Pro. >>>> >>>> So what is it about media player that freaks out when I'm doing >>>> something else? It seems to happen when resources are low and memory >>>> leaking. Is there a good way to avoid this rare but annoying behavior? >>>> Does playing an MP3 put a strain on the system... is it a bug... should >>>> I be using Winamp instead? Just curious... > > |
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If you want an external one, take a look at the Creative USB model(Audigy
NX?). There are 64bit drivers for it, and it's a good overall solution. But almost any add-on sound card will put less stress on the system than the (frankly awful) built in AC97 chips. -- Charlie. http://msmvps.com/xperts64 Dennis Gordon wrote: > Yep, I do have the onboard audio. I also have 2 unused Seasound Solo > external A/D interfaces that I could use... if only there were 64 bit > drivers, which is unlikely, seeing that they went out of business 5 years > ago. They work great with XP Pro. > > This really isn't a big problem. Why I was just playing some xmas music to > the annoyance of many while doing my usual routines with nary a hiccup. > Probably the easiest thing is just to turn down the juice on the > machine... > > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <> wrote in message > news:uO$... >> Got ya! Well, I have no idea why, but apparently something in the>> music playing is pushing things beyond what you can handle at that OC. >> I'm guessing, but do you use the onboard audio? If so, dump it and get a >> good board from Creative or another that has solid x64 drivers. That will >> offload it from the mobo and cpu much better. >> >> -- >> Charlie. >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64 >> >> Dennis Gordon wrote: >>> OK, ya got me... Yeah, I'm O/Cing my 2.0gz 3800x2 to 2.54, which is>>> pretty high, but not unusual for this processor. My ram, with the >>> divider, >>> is at DDR422 or so. CPU temps are steady at around 40C and I've slightly >>> bumped up the CPU voltage. So, upon further review, I see that I may >>> have...ahem... been pushing things a bit when I last crashed, listening >>> to >>> some Merle Haggard whilst distilling a 100 meg PS file along with >>> whatever >>> else was going on... >>> >>> So I do tend to ride my machine just below it's practical stable >>> performance limit. But still, I only seem to crash when I'm playing >>> music, something I'd presume a dual processor should deal with. I can >>> virus scan or defrag or burn a CD and continue to work in InDesign or >>> Outlook or IE like nothing is going on (something that would just slow >>> my P4 at home to a crawl). But throwing on an MP3 seems to make me >>> vulnerable, although it's not chronic, only occasional. So I guess >>> lowering the speed by 5% would help... but what fun is that?... >>> >>> I shouldn't overstate what's happening, when 99% of the time I'm running >>> solid. Overclocking does stress things, obviously, so I should presume >>> that's the root cause. I'm just looking for any tweaks that might help. >>> Thanks... >>> >>> >>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <> wrote in >>> message news:%... >>>> Dennis -- I do NOT see this on the Ferrari at all. I've got 5 Terminal >>>> sessions open, Outook, OE, excel, 3 word documents, a remote VS >>>> session, a couple of images open, 10 web pages in 32 bit IE, and >>>> anther 5 in 64-bit IE, and I've been listening to some serious music >>>> as I work on a final chapter for the next book. Now it's true, none of >>>> the other windows are processor intensive. But the overall mix is >>>> fairly typical of my workday. I've been running like this all day, and >>>> will probably leave it up till I finish off the chapter tomorrow. I've >>>> done several _large_ downloads, I'm running files back and forth >>>> across the network, and this machine is triple-homed -- two Gb NICs on >>>> two different networks, and the wireless on a third. All with only 1gb >>>> of RAM. (Task manager says I'm running right at 996 Mb of commit >>>> charge, so RAM is pretty much used up.) >>>> >>>> My point is -- look for what else could be going on. Maybe some iffy >>>> RAM? >>>> Maybe overheating? Are you overclocking at all? >>>> -- >>>> Charlie. >>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64 >>>> >>>> Dennis Gordon wrote: >>>>> ...in 64 bit, is the same thing that crashes me in 32 bit. It's >>>>> playing music in the background while working in other apps. I >>>>> usually have many >>>>> things running, often all day without a reboot... InDesign, Photoshop, >>>>> Acrobat, IE, Outlook... whatever. I can run stable all day long doing >>>>> lots of photo work, distilling, network access, FTPing large files, >>>>> downloading... I also like to run some music, usually using Media >>>>> Player. If I do so, sooner or later I'll get a ga-ga-ga-ga-ga-ga >>>>> stuttering sound and a blue screen, say when I'm printing or >>>>> distilling. It doesn't happen often, but I can sense it coming >>>>> sometimes. Once, maybe twice a day, if I'm using MP in the background. >>>>> Otherwise I'm perfectly stable. I've had the same results in XP Pro. >>>>> >>>>> So what is it about media player that freaks out when I'm doing >>>>> something else? It seems to happen when resources are low and memory >>>>> leaking. Is there a good way to avoid this rare but annoying behavior? >>>>> Does playing an MP3 put a strain on the system... is it a bug... >>>>> should I be using Winamp instead? Just curious... |
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Yes, the Server 2003 Administrator's Companion is getting an update for SP1
and R2. Should be out Q1 of 2007. -- Charlie. http://msmvps.com/xperts64 Andre Da Costa [Extended64] wrote: > Which book is it, Server 2003 R2 companion? > > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <> wrote in message > news:%... >> Dennis -- I do NOT see this on the Ferrari at all. I've got 5 Terminal >> sessions open, Outook, OE, excel, 3 word documents, a remote VS session, >> a couple of images open, 10 web pages in 32 bit IE, and anther 5 in >> 64-bit IE, and I've been listening to some serious music as I work on a >> final chapter for the next book. Now it's true, none of the other >> windows are processor intensive. But the overall mix is fairly typical >> of my workday. I've been running like this all day, and will probably >> leave it up till I finish off the chapter tomorrow. I've done several >> _large_ downloads, I'm running files back and forth across the network, >> and this machine is triple-homed -- two Gb NICs on two different >> networks, and the wireless on a third. All with only 1gb of RAM. (Task >> manager says I'm running right at 996 Mb of commit charge, so RAM is >> pretty much used up.) My point is -- look for what else could be going >> on. Maybe some iffy RAM? >> Maybe overheating? Are you overclocking at all? >> -- >> Charlie. >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64 >> >> Dennis Gordon wrote: >>> ...in 64 bit, is the same thing that crashes me in 32 bit. It's playing >>> music in the background while working in other apps. I usually have many >>> things running, often all day without a reboot... InDesign, Photoshop, >>> Acrobat, IE, Outlook... whatever. I can run stable all day long doing >>> lots >>> of photo work, distilling, network access, FTPing large files, >>> downloading... I also like to run some music, usually using Media >>> Player. If I do so, sooner or later I'll get a ga-ga-ga-ga-ga-ga >>> stuttering sound and a blue screen, say when I'm printing or >>> distilling. It doesn't happen often, but I can sense it coming >>> sometimes. Once, maybe twice a day, if I'm using MP in the background. >>> Otherwise I'm perfectly stable. I've had the same results in XP Pro. >>> >>> So what is it about media player that freaks out when I'm doing >>> something else? It seems to happen when resources are low and memory >>> leaking. Is there a good way to avoid this rare but annoying behavior? >>> Does playing an MP3 put a strain on the system... is it a bug... should >>> I be using Winamp instead? Just curious... |
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