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Randy
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      11-18-2005
Sorry, I thought I'd said something previously...

It was a generic modem I saw the one time they sold it at geeks.com, for
like $18, maybe $24 with S&H. The key, and what caught my eye, was that it
used a SmartUSB56 V90 driver, which I had found previously to be something
purporting to have x64 drivers.

I'd bought an HP (USB) eModem on EBay for a refurb HP micro system (also
from geeks.com), which has no internal slots for a modem and none built-in.
I downloaded what I thought were the drivers from HP (the x64 version for
SmartUSB56 chip), but they wouldn't work with it on my x64 system. But when
I saw the generic modem on Geeks, I figured I'd give it a try, and got
lucky.

I must admit, I haven't installed the modem on my x64 system yet, being busy
with x32 systems... but it *did* use the x32 version of the same driver on
my XP Home laptop, so I'm betting the x64 version will work on x64 Windows.
I'll give it a shot this weekend if I can get the x64 system going... I let
the activation period lapse, and without a connection to the Internet at
boot time, it won't let me onboard. I guess I'll just re-install... all I'd
done with it so far was testing various periphs and apps, so nothing really
lost. Actually, I think maybe the x64 server OS still works... but there's
no guarantee the driver will work with it. I'll let you know.

Here's the log data from my x32 system:
Modem type: SmartUSB56 V90 Modem
09-22-2005 21:45:19.171 - Modem inf path: oem13.inf
09-22-2005 21:45:19.171 - Modem inf section: Modem1
09-22-2005 21:45:19.171 - Matching hardware ID: usb\vid_0483&pid_7554

"John Barnes" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Care to share what USB modem works so I can possibly free up a PCI slot?
> Thanks
>
>
> "Randy" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> > Um, not if, as I suspect, the problem is that you haven't got (and they
> > may
> > not be available yet, if ever) the correct x64 drivers for the

peripherals
> > involved...
> >
> > But I think the overall impression is that most of us have found at

least
> > drivers for our basic systems -- audio, video (card, display), network
> > (finally found a USB modem that works), motherboard/chipsets, etc. The
> > generic vga driver is fairly spectacular compared to previous versions

of
> > Windows, at least with the Server version (I had to locate and install

the
> > same when installing XP Pro x64). USB audio is a cinch if you're not an
> > audiophile. Ditto for mice and keyboards -- forget about Intellistuff

for
> > now.
> >
> > Drivers should be much more abundant when Vista comes to town next year.
> > More manufacturers should get their acts together by then. Right now,

they
> > seem to be biding their time watching to gauge the public's collective
> > reaction to Microsoft's new operating system standards before throwing
> > their
> > own resources in the pool. It wouldn't be the first time. Doing the
> > opposite
> > (the right thing) might be...
> >
> > "Lemo" <> wrote in message
> > news:E0E7662C-72DD-41C8-B713-...
> >> If I was to buy the retail version on x64, and installed it, would this

> > fix
> >> all my problems too?
> >>
> >> Thanks very much for your help, by the way!
> >>
> >> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote:
> >>
> >> > I would do a system restore then prior to this problem occuring.
> >> > --
> >> > Andre
> >> > Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
> >> > Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
> >> > http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
> >> > FAQ for MS AntiSpy
> >> > http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
> >> >
> >> > "Lemo" <> wrote in message
> >> > news:133D6129-E035-4635-824A-...
> >> > > Its "Version 5.2 Build 3790"
> >> > >
> >> > > "Rick" wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> You need to determine exactly what "evaluation" version you have

on
> > your
> >> > >> computer. Some places are still loading a copy of the Beta and

that
> >> > >> causes problems because most of the old drivers are not compatible

> > with
> >> > >> the released version.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Click on <Start> then <Run> the type in "winver" (without quotes)
> >> > >> and
> >> > >> click on <OK> and an "About Windows" will come up and provide the
> >> > >> information you need.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Lemo wrote:
> >> > >> > Just bought a new PC with the evaluation copy of XP x64 already
> >> > >> > installed,
> >> > >> > and am planning on buying the full version, but -
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > downloaded the latest updates and it has caused problems with

the
> >> > >> > colour
> >> > >> > scheme, to the point where i cant read highlighted buttons etc
> >> > >> > played around with the advanced apperance settings but its not

> > helping
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > also, cant install certain programs eg msn messenger
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > are these problems just because its the evaluation version?
> >> > >> > i am running a sempron 3000+
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Please help!
> >> > >> > Lemo
> >> > >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >

> >
> >

>
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Randy
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      11-18-2005
Me too. But I still think the demo version of x64 is worth playing with
now...
as long as the user is saavy enough to be able to dual boot and protect what
they already have.

"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <> wrote in message
news:...
> I definitely agree with John.
> --
> Andre
> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
> FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
>
> "John Barnes" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> > Best to go with XP Pro if you are only going to have one system and

money
> > is tight. X64 is not just an investment in the OS, but turns out to be
> > many times the cost of the OS in buying new equipment and programs, and
> > many 'comfy' consumer programs just don't work in x64. I do suggest

that
> > when you buy equipment you plan ahead by buying 64-bit ready equipment,
> > and to the extent you can find out (very difficult) try to buy programs
> > which will work on x64 if you have a choice of software that is

comparable
> > in usefulness to you.
> >
> >
> > "Lemo" <> wrote in message
> > news:4018EF3F-5370-4366-BE7E-...
> >>I think I might just upgrade to x64 when its the standard
> >> Cant afford 2 OS!
> >>
> >> "Randy" wrote:
> >>
> >>> Then you just might want to first look at a few posts by Charlie

talking
> >>> about a free 64-bit version of CakeWalk (IIRC). 64 bit computing opens
> >>> up a
> >>> whole new world of real-time editing in much larger memory spaces than
> >>> previously available under Windows. And IIRC, CakeWalk in particular
> >>> works
> >>> faster under x64 as well
> >>>
> >>> Consider the difference in being able to create, edit, and record a

new,
> >>> lengthy work (music, prose, video, or whatever) completely in your

head
> >>> before writing out the final version... versus having to do EVERYTHING
> >>> by
> >>> pen and paper, or on a type writer, or even in a word processor. The
> >>> former
> >>> frees your mind to work more efficiently; the latter is constrained by
> >>> the
> >>> capacities of the various methods used -- how many bits of data they

can
> >>> hold and let you work on simultaneously.
> >>>
> >>> You can always dual boot... keep doing what you're used to under an

x32
> >>> environment, but have x64 installed on a second partition (installed
> >>> second), allowing you to then chose which to run each time you boot.

You
> >>> then get the benefit of continuity of production doing what you're
> >>> familiar
> >>> with, while being able to "play with" (learn) the new OS on the side

as
> >>> time
> >>> and interest permit. When the time then comes (as it eventually,
> >>> inevitably,
> >>> will) you HAVE to upgrade, you're already that much further along the
> >>> path
> >>> to x64... and it's that much further along becoming ready for you.
> >>>
> >>> "Lemo" <> wrote in message
> >>> news:E8471434-FD6C-49DE-81C1-...
> >>> > I'll just get 32-bit version this weekend then!
> >>> > all I'll be using the pc for is sound recording/producing so i dont
> >>> > need
> >>> the
> >>> > 64 bit version
> >>> >
> >>> > thanks, you have all been a big help!
> >>> >
> >>> > Lemo
> >>> >
> >>> > "John Barnes" wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > > The 32-bit Windows XP (Home Or Professional) work just great on a
> >>> > > 64-bit
> >>> > > processor. A 64-bit operating system is useful to those

delineated
> >>> > > in
> >>> > > Andre's post.
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > "Lemo" <> wrote in message
> >>> > > news:3AA656E4-804E-4189-B764-...
> >>> > > >I was told today that if I have a 64 bit processor, x64 is the

only
> >>> version
> >>> > > > of XP I can run - is this not true?
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > thanks for all your help on this andre and john!
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote:
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >> If you do plan on moving to Windows x64, you can aquire the

full
> >>> > > >> OEM
> >>> > > >> version
> >>> > > >> with qualifying hardware from the following vendors:
> >>> > > >> http://www.directron.com/winxpx64.html
> >>> > > >> http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16837102034
> >>> > > >>
> >>>

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...ture=Microsoft
> >>> > > >> http://www.planetamd64.com/catalog/
> >>> > > >> --
> >>> > > >> Andre
> >>> > > >> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
> >>> > > >> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
> >>> > > >> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
> >>> > > >> FAQ for MS AntiSpy
> >>> http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
> >>> > > >>
> >>> > > >> "Lemo" <> wrote in message
> >>> > > >> news:30F33066-714A-405E-8902-...
> >>> > > >> >I bought the PC off ebay, and once I paid, the "power seller"
> >>> > > >> >got
> >>> 20+
> >>> > > >> > negative feedback in the following month. Most people didnt
> >>> > > >> > even
> >>> > > >> > receive
> >>> > > >> > their PCs so I guess I'm one of the lucky ones (although it

was
> >>> > > >> > advertised
> >>> > > >> > as
> >>> > > >> > an athlon, so Im slightly annoyed at that). The seller got
> >>> > > >> > kicked
> >>> off
> >>> > > >> > ebay
> >>> > > >> > and have had no replies from questions Ive asked him since

the
> >>> > > >> > PC
> >>> > > >> > arrived
> >>> > > >> > So Im stuffed!
> >>> > > >> > Ah well, you live and learn....
> >>> > > >> >
> >>> > > >> > "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote:
> >>> > > >> >
> >>> > > >> >> The question I would like to ask, are System builders or

OEMs
> >>> suppose
> >>> > > >> >> to
> >>> > > >> >> be
> >>> > > >> >> selling PCs with evaluation versions on it? Gosh, are they
> >>> > > >> >> that
> >>> cheap
> >>> > > >> >> they
> >>> > > >> >> can't even bundle it with XP Home? XP Professional x64 Trial
> >>> version
> >>> > > >> >> should
> >>> > > >> >> be a separate disk that comes with system that user should
> >>> > > >> >> choose
> >>> to
> >>> > > >> >> install
> >>> > > >> >> if they wish. I suspect its beta version of XP Pro x64 you

are
> >>> > > >> >> running,
> >>> > > >> >> because all recent versions of Messenger are fully

compatible
> >>> > > >> >> with
> >>> XP
> >>> > > >> >> x64.
> >>> > > >> >> --
> >>> > > >> >> Andre
> >>> > > >> >> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
> >>> > > >> >> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
> >>> > > >> >> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
> >>> > > >> >> FAQ for MS AntiSpy
> >>> > > >> >> http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
> >>> > > >> >>
> >>> > > >> >> "Lemo" <> wrote in message
> >>> > > >> >> news:1DA59FF2-152A-4F9C-9C1E-...
> >>> > > >> >> > Just bought a new PC with the evaluation copy of XP x64
> >>> > > >> >> > already
> >>> > > >> >> > installed,
> >>> > > >> >> > and am planning on buying the full version, but -
> >>> > > >> >> >
> >>> > > >> >> > downloaded the latest updates and it has caused problems
> >>> > > >> >> > with
> >>> the
> >>> > > >> >> > colour
> >>> > > >> >> > scheme, to the point where i cant read highlighted buttons
> >>> > > >> >> > etc
> >>> > > >> >> > played around with the advanced apperance settings but its
> >>> > > >> >> > not
> >>> > > >> >> > helping
> >>> > > >> >> >
> >>> > > >> >> > also, cant install certain programs eg msn messenger
> >>> > > >> >> >
> >>> > > >> >> > are these problems just because its the evaluation

version?
> >>> > > >> >> > i am running a sempron 3000+
> >>> > > >> >> >
> >>> > > >> >> > Please help!
> >>> > > >> >> > Lemo
> >>> > > >> >>
> >>> > > >> >>
> >>> > > >> >>
> >>> > > >>
> >>> > > >>
> >>> > > >>
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>

> >
> >

>
>



 
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