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Did you purchase it here?

http://www.itechwholesale.com/pd_mic...ofessional.cfm

If so, it is definitely bootleg.

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"mrnathan" <> wrote in message
news:FEDC1F35-C835-4243-9833-...
>I did, it tells me that I have a valid key. I have also done a test to see
> if the copy i have is genuine and it says it is (the CD, packaging and the
> key, the only thing I dont have is the COA number/sticker). I have also
> registered the product, proving that the seriel I used was unique and
> genuine. As far as im aware the key is valid, it just didnt come from a
> COA
> sticker. I have contacted itechwholesale.com for a refund/COA sticker,
> awaiting replies from them.
>
> i have also reported them to microsoft for piracy.
>
> But as I said, everything iv done indicates the the product key I got was
> genuine, im not sure why it didnt come from a COA sticker though. Who
> knows!
>
> I wish id of known that i could have just bought x64, cause i would have
> just done that, but when i searched for it just as: 'windows x64' i
> couldnt
> find any copies..? maybe i looked before it was released or something, who
> knows, but hopefully ill get a result from itech then can just buy x64.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Larry Samuels" wrote:
>
>> You *DO NOT* have a valid key!
>>
>> ALL legitimate OEM copies come with the key printed on the COA. The fact
>> your key came on a red sticker instead of on the COA proves that it was a
>> key produced with a key generator.
>>
>> Follow the steps on the link I provided to see if you can qualify for
>> free
>> or reduced cost replacement of your illegal copy.
>>
>> --
>> Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
>> Associate Expert
>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
>> http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
>>
>> "mrnathan" <> wrote in message
>> news:0B74DAEB-C7CF-4D30-B864-...
>> > Thanks for the links. the swap program thing is only available for
>> > those
>> > without valid product keys, so as i have a valid product key i cant
>> > regioster
>> > for it.
>> >
>> > I wish i realised that an OEM copy of x64 was available as I would have
>> > just
>> > bought that instead! im just trying to get a refund on my copy of XP
>> > pro
>> > now,
>> > and have reported them for providing the software without a COA.
>> > thanks
>> > for
>> > all your help.
>> >
>> > Nathan
>> >
>> > "Rick" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Thank Larry Samuels for the following link:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.microsoft.com/genuine/pur...alifyInfo.aspx
>> >>
>> >> The TAP program is currently slated to end July 31st - no more trading
>> >> in a current license for x64. The OEM version is available for sale,
>> >> along with a qualifying piece on non-peripheral hardware, at many
>> >> places. Do a Froogle search for "ZAT-00007" which is the part number
>> >> for Windows x64.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> mrnathan wrote:
>> >> > + in that case will you not be able to get x64 after July 31st???
>> >> > seems
>> >> > a
>> >> > little strange.
>> >> >
>> >> > "Rick" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >>Not according to anything that has been published. It has been
>> >> >>stated
>> >> >>numerous times that it will only be OEM.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>If your disc has a holograph, Microsoft had a program about a month
>> >> >>or
>> >> >>so ago where they would exchange your pirated disk for a valid one
>> >> >>if
>> >> >>you provided all the information as to where it was obtained.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>All legitimate copies of Microsoft Windows are on holograph disks,
>> >> >>and
>> >> >>are accompanied by Certificate of Authenticity which has the COA
>> >> >>number
>> >> >>and the Product Key. The COA also has holographs of "GENUINE" and
>> >> >>"Microsoft" that can be seen when the light reflects off it.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>mrnathan wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>The Product Key was on a red printed sticker on the outside of the
>> >> >>>shrinkwrap
>> >> >>>packaging. It worked, and I have since registered the copy, so I
>> >> >>>assume its
>> >> >>>unique and genuine.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Another small question....if the deadline for upgrading to x64 is
>> >> >>>the
>> >> >>>31st
>> >> >>>of July, does that mean it will turn retail on the 1st of august?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>nathan
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>"Rick" wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>Where did you get the Product Key for the installation?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>mrnathan wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>>I did buy the copy online, but it came as the origianl copy, with
>> >> >>>>>the
>> >> >>>>>origianl (hologram) disc, and the documentation. And its the
>> >> >>>>>service pack 2
>> >> >>>>>edition, and iv registered it no probs, which i wouldnt have been
>> >> >>>>>able to do
>> >> >>>>>if it were a copy.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>Am i right?
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>nathan
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>"Larry Samuels" wrote:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>As Mike stated, *ALL* legitimate OEM copies come with the COA.
>> >> >>>>>>No COA = 100% certainty the software is an illegal copy.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>--
>> >> >>>>>>Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
>> >> >>>>>>Associate Expert
>> >> >>>>>>Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> >> >>>>>>Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
>> >> >>>>>>http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
>> >> >>>>>>"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <> wrote in
>> >> >>>>>>message
>> >> >>>>>>news:.. .
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>Maybe there is some glitch in the program accepting either PID
>> >> >>>>>>>or
>> >> >>>>>>>COA, try
>> >> >>>>>>>again at a later date.
>> >> >>>>>>>--
>> >> >>>>>>>Andre
>> >> >>>>>>>Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>> >> >>>>>>>Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>> >> >>>>>>>http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>> >> >>>>>>>FAQ for MS AntiSpy
>> >> >>>>>>>http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>"Larry Samuels" <> wrote in message
>> >> >>>>>>>news:. ..
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>Not bootlegged copies <VBEG>
>> >> >>>>>>>>I suspect this is the case here.
>> >> >>>>>>>>Any bets the "OEM copy" was purchased online??
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>--
>> >> >>>>>>>>Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
>> >> >>>>>>>>Associate Expert
>> >> >>>>>>>>Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> >> >>>>>>>>Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
>> >> >>>>>>>>http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

ok, any reason why you say that? well iv reported them so we'll see what
happens.

"Larry Samuels" wrote:

> Did you purchase it here?
>
> http://www.itechwholesale.com/pd_mic...ofessional.cfm
>
> If so, it is definitely bootleg.
>
> --
> Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
> http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
>
> "mrnathan" <> wrote in message
> news:FEDC1F35-C835-4243-9833-...
> >I did, it tells me that I have a valid key. I have also done a test to see
> > if the copy i have is genuine and it says it is (the CD, packaging and the
> > key, the only thing I dont have is the COA number/sticker). I have also
> > registered the product, proving that the seriel I used was unique and
> > genuine. As far as im aware the key is valid, it just didnt come from a
> > COA
> > sticker. I have contacted itechwholesale.com for a refund/COA sticker,
> > awaiting replies from them.
> >
> > i have also reported them to microsoft for piracy.
> >
> > But as I said, everything iv done indicates the the product key I got was
> > genuine, im not sure why it didnt come from a COA sticker though. Who
> > knows!
> >
> > I wish id of known that i could have just bought x64, cause i would have
> > just done that, but when i searched for it just as: 'windows x64' i
> > couldnt
> > find any copies..? maybe i looked before it was released or something, who
> > knows, but hopefully ill get a result from itech then can just buy x64.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Larry Samuels" wrote:
> >
> >> You *DO NOT* have a valid key!
> >>
> >> ALL legitimate OEM copies come with the key printed on the COA. The fact
> >> your key came on a red sticker instead of on the COA proves that it was a
> >> key produced with a key generator.
> >>
> >> Follow the steps on the link I provided to see if you can qualify for
> >> free
> >> or reduced cost replacement of your illegal copy.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
> >> Associate Expert
> >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >> Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
> >> http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
> >>
> >> "mrnathan" <> wrote in message
> >> news:0B74DAEB-C7CF-4D30-B864-...
> >> > Thanks for the links. the swap program thing is only available for
> >> > those
> >> > without valid product keys, so as i have a valid product key i cant
> >> > regioster
> >> > for it.
> >> >
> >> > I wish i realised that an OEM copy of x64 was available as I would have
> >> > just
> >> > bought that instead! im just trying to get a refund on my copy of XP
> >> > pro
> >> > now,
> >> > and have reported them for providing the software without a COA.
> >> > thanks
> >> > for
> >> > all your help.
> >> >
> >> > Nathan
> >> >
> >> > "Rick" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Thank Larry Samuels for the following link:
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/genuine/pur...alifyInfo.aspx
> >> >>
> >> >> The TAP program is currently slated to end July 31st - no more trading
> >> >> in a current license for x64. The OEM version is available for sale,
> >> >> along with a qualifying piece on non-peripheral hardware, at many
> >> >> places. Do a Froogle search for "ZAT-00007" which is the part number
> >> >> for Windows x64.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> mrnathan wrote:
> >> >> > + in that case will you not be able to get x64 after July 31st???
> >> >> > seems
> >> >> > a
> >> >> > little strange.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Rick" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>Not according to anything that has been published. It has been
> >> >> >>stated
> >> >> >>numerous times that it will only be OEM.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>If your disc has a holograph, Microsoft had a program about a month
> >> >> >>or
> >> >> >>so ago where they would exchange your pirated disk for a valid one
> >> >> >>if
> >> >> >>you provided all the information as to where it was obtained.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>All legitimate copies of Microsoft Windows are on holograph disks,
> >> >> >>and
> >> >> >>are accompanied by Certificate of Authenticity which has the COA
> >> >> >>number
> >> >> >>and the Product Key. The COA also has holographs of "GENUINE" and
> >> >> >>"Microsoft" that can be seen when the light reflects off it.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>mrnathan wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>>The Product Key was on a red printed sticker on the outside of the
> >> >> >>>shrinkwrap
> >> >> >>>packaging. It worked, and I have since registered the copy, so I
> >> >> >>>assume its
> >> >> >>>unique and genuine.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>Another small question....if the deadline for upgrading to x64 is
> >> >> >>>the
> >> >> >>>31st
> >> >> >>>of July, does that mean it will turn retail on the 1st of august?
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>nathan
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>"Rick" wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>>Where did you get the Product Key for the installation?
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>mrnathan wrote:
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>>I did buy the copy online, but it came as the origianl copy, with
> >> >> >>>>>the
> >> >> >>>>>origianl (hologram) disc, and the documentation. And its the
> >> >> >>>>>service pack 2
> >> >> >>>>>edition, and iv registered it no probs, which i wouldnt have been
> >> >> >>>>>able to do
> >> >> >>>>>if it were a copy.
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>Am i right?
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>nathan
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>"Larry Samuels" wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>As Mike stated, *ALL* legitimate OEM copies come with the COA.
> >> >> >>>>>>No COA = 100% certainty the software is an illegal copy.
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>--
> >> >> >>>>>>Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
> >> >> >>>>>>Associate Expert
> >> >> >>>>>>Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >> >> >>>>>>Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
> >> >> >>>>>>http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
> >> >> >>>>>>"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <> wrote in
> >> >> >>>>>>message
> >> >> >>>>>>news:.. .
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>Maybe there is some glitch in the program accepting either PID
> >> >> >>>>>>>or
> >> >> >>>>>>>COA, try
> >> >> >>>>>>>again at a later date.
> >> >> >>>>>>>--
> >> >> >>>>>>>Andre
> >> >> >>>>>>>Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
> >> >> >>>>>>>Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
> >> >> >>>>>>>http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
> >> >> >>>>>>>FAQ for MS AntiSpy
> >> >> >>>>>>>http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>"Larry Samuels" <> wrote in message
> >> >> >>>>>>>news:. ..
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>Not bootlegged copies <VBEG>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>I suspect this is the case here.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>Any bets the "OEM copy" was purchased online??
> >> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>--
> >> >> >>>>>>>>Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
> >> >> >>>>>>>>Associate Expert
> >> >> >>>>>>>>Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >> >> >>>>>>>>Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
> >> >> >>>>>>>>http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

well i get the message: "The Windows Genuine Advantage Kit for Windows XP
Professional is currently only available to users of known invalid Product
Keys." when i try to register for the free swap, so im guessing that my
activation key isnt a known fake. So it wont let me swap, i.e. meaning that
the copy could be real.

I re-iterate, the CD and packaging, and booklet are 100% real and genuine,
no doubt (or they the best copies I have seen in my life). The activation
key worked and the OS is registered now with microsoft (which you cant do
with a bogus activation key/product ID). So the only thing in question is
why they didnt include the COA, which they claim: "we do not incluide COAs as
it cuts down cost". Costs from where, surelly if they're wholesale then the
copies will come from microsoft, and microsoft wont sell the copies to them
without COAs . And if they are selling the real genuine copies, does this
mean they are possibly retaining the COA sticker, and then re-shrink wrapping
the product, printing the key code on the packaging, and then flogging the
COA code somewhere?? seems risky and/or alot of effort to me.

nathan

"Rick" wrote:

> Actually you do not know for sure whether you have a valid Product Key
> or not!
>
>
> mrnathan wrote:
> > Thanks for the links. the swap program thing is only available for those
> > without valid product keys, so as i have a valid product key i cant regioster
> > for it.
> >
> > I wish i realised that an OEM copy of x64 was available as I would have just
> > bought that instead! im just trying to get a refund on my copy of XP pro now,
> > and have reported them for providing the software without a COA. thanks for
> > all your help.
> >
> > Nathan
> >
> > "Rick" wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Thank Larry Samuels for the following link:
> >>
> >>http://www.microsoft.com/genuine/pur...alifyInfo.aspx
> >>
> >>The TAP program is currently slated to end July 31st - no more trading
> >>in a current license for x64. The OEM version is available for sale,
> >>along with a qualifying piece on non-peripheral hardware, at many
> >>places. Do a Froogle search for "ZAT-00007" which is the part number
> >>for Windows x64.
> >>
> >>
> >>mrnathan wrote:
> >>
> >>>+ in that case will you not be able to get x64 after July 31st??? seems a
> >>>little strange.
> >>>
> >>>"Rick" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Not according to anything that has been published. It has been stated
> >>>>numerous times that it will only be OEM.
> >>>>
> >>>>If your disc has a holograph, Microsoft had a program about a month or
> >>>>so ago where they would exchange your pirated disk for a valid one if
> >>>>you provided all the information as to where it was obtained.
> >>>>
> >>>>All legitimate copies of Microsoft Windows are on holograph disks, and
> >>>>are accompanied by Certificate of Authenticity which has the COA number
> >>>>and the Product Key. The COA also has holographs of "GENUINE" and
> >>>>"Microsoft" that can be seen when the light reflects off it.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>mrnathan wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>The Product Key was on a red printed sticker on the outside of the shrinkwrap
> >>>>>packaging. It worked, and I have since registered the copy, so I assume its
> >>>>>unique and genuine.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Another small question....if the deadline for upgrading to x64 is the 31st
> >>>>>of July, does that mean it will turn retail on the 1st of august?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>nathan
> >>>>>
> >>>>>"Rick" wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Where did you get the Product Key for the installation?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>mrnathan wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>I did buy the copy online, but it came as the origianl copy, with the
> >>>>>>>origianl (hologram) disc, and the documentation. And its the service pack 2
> >>>>>>>edition, and iv registered it no probs, which i wouldnt have been able to do
> >>>>>>>if it were a copy.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Am i right?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>nathan
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>"Larry Samuels" wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>As Mike stated, *ALL* legitimate OEM copies come with the COA.
> >>>>>>>>No COA = 100% certainty the software is an illegal copy.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>--
> >>>>>>>>Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
> >>>>>>>>Associate Expert
> >>>>>>>>Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >>>>>>>>Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
> >>>>>>>>http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
> >>>>>>>>"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>news: ...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Maybe there is some glitch in the program accepting either PID or COA, try
> >>>>>>>>>again at a later date.
> >>>>>>>>>--
> >>>>>>>>>Andre
> >>>>>>>>>Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
> >>>>>>>>>Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
> >>>>>>>>>http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
> >>>>>>>>>FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>"Larry Samuels" <> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>news: l...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>Not bootlegged copies <VBEG>
> >>>>>>>>>>I suspect this is the case here.
> >>>>>>>>>>Any bets the "OEM copy" was purchased online??
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>--
> >>>>>>>>>>Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
> >>>>>>>>>>Associate Expert
> >>>>>>>>>>Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >>>>>>>>>>Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
> >>>>>>>>>>http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
>

Hi Nathan,

I just replied to you privately. They are selling the COA's separately to
double their return on investment.

Your disc and packaging is genuine as far as I can tell. Only the key is
bootlegged. Follow-up with the guys in the anti-piracy division.

PS-it is possible to activate an register a bogus copy. I did so once as a
test, then forwarded the tools used to the head of WPA at MS.

--
Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm


"mrnathan" <> wrote in message
news:83BAE4A9-688B-486E-98F9-...
> well i get the message: "The Windows Genuine Advantage Kit for Windows XP
> Professional is currently only available to users of known invalid Product
> Keys." when i try to register for the free swap, so im guessing that my
> activation key isnt a known fake. So it wont let me swap, i.e. meaning
> that
> the copy could be real.
>
> I re-iterate, the CD and packaging, and booklet are 100% real and genuine,
> no doubt (or they the best copies I have seen in my life). The activation
> key worked and the OS is registered now with microsoft (which you cant do
> with a bogus activation key/product ID). So the only thing in question is
> why they didnt include the COA, which they claim: "we do not incluide COAs
> as
> it cuts down cost". Costs from where, surelly if they're wholesale then
> the
> copies will come from microsoft, and microsoft wont sell the copies to
> them
> without COAs . And if they are selling the real genuine copies, does
> this
> mean they are possibly retaining the COA sticker, and then re-shrink
> wrapping
> the product, printing the key code on the packaging, and then flogging the
> COA code somewhere?? seems risky and/or alot of effort to me.
>
> nathan

Several reasons:

1>The fact that the price for XP pro is way below my wholesale price as a
system builder is a dead giveaway. There is no such thing as surplus OS
since OEMs can return unused product to the vendors for credit.

2>At no point do they state a COA is included and it is illegal to sell the
OS without the COA .

3>They state they are selling branded copies of XP Home (Dell,etc). It is
illegal for them to sell branded copies of the OS as the branded discs can
only be sold with a complete PC from the manufacturer whose name is on the
disc.


--
Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm

"mrnathan" <> wrote in message
news:333C6D1C-759F-4B87-B53D-...
> ok, any reason why you say that? well iv reported them so we'll see what
> happens.
>
> "Larry Samuels" wrote:
>
>> Did you purchase it here?
>>
>> http://www.itechwholesale.com/pd_mic...ofessional.cfm
>>
>> If so, it is definitely bootleg.
>>
>> --
>> Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
>> Associate Expert
>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
>> http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm

Here is a pic of VL XP:
http://www.winhistory.de/more/pics/xpcd_vol.jpg
--
Andre
Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

"mrnathan" <> wrote in message
news:333C6D1C-759F-4B87-B53D-...
> ok, any reason why you say that? well iv reported them so we'll see what
> happens.
>
> "Larry Samuels" wrote:
>
>> Did you purchase it here?
>>
>> http://www.itechwholesale.com/pd_mic...ofessional.cfm
>>
>> If so, it is definitely bootleg.
>>
>> --
>> Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
>> Associate Expert
>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
>> http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
>>
>> "mrnathan" <> wrote in message
>> news:FEDC1F35-C835-4243-9833-...
>> >I did, it tells me that I have a valid key. I have also done a test to
>> >see
>> > if the copy i have is genuine and it says it is (the CD, packaging and
>> > the
>> > key, the only thing I dont have is the COA number/sticker). I have
>> > also
>> > registered the product, proving that the seriel I used was unique and
>> > genuine. As far as im aware the key is valid, it just didnt come from
>> > a
>> > COA
>> > sticker. I have contacted itechwholesale.com for a refund/COA sticker,
>> > awaiting replies from them.
>> >
>> > i have also reported them to microsoft for piracy.
>> >
>> > But as I said, everything iv done indicates the the product key I got
>> > was
>> > genuine, im not sure why it didnt come from a COA sticker though. Who
>> > knows!
>> >
>> > I wish id of known that i could have just bought x64, cause i would
>> > have
>> > just done that, but when i searched for it just as: 'windows x64' i
>> > couldnt
>> > find any copies..? maybe i looked before it was released or something,
>> > who
>> > knows, but hopefully ill get a result from itech then can just buy x64.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Larry Samuels" wrote:
>> >
>> >> You *DO NOT* have a valid key!
>> >>
>> >> ALL legitimate OEM copies come with the key printed on the COA. The
>> >> fact
>> >> your key came on a red sticker instead of on the COA proves that it
>> >> was a
>> >> key produced with a key generator.
>> >>
>> >> Follow the steps on the link I provided to see if you can qualify for
>> >> free
>> >> or reduced cost replacement of your illegal copy.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
>> >> Associate Expert
>> >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> >> Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
>> >> http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
>> >>
>> >> "mrnathan" <> wrote in message
>> >> news:0B74DAEB-C7CF-4D30-B864-...
>> >> > Thanks for the links. the swap program thing is only available for
>> >> > those
>> >> > without valid product keys, so as i have a valid product key i cant
>> >> > regioster
>> >> > for it.
>> >> >
>> >> > I wish i realised that an OEM copy of x64 was available as I would
>> >> > have
>> >> > just
>> >> > bought that instead! im just trying to get a refund on my copy of XP
>> >> > pro
>> >> > now,
>> >> > and have reported them for providing the software without a COA.
>> >> > thanks
>> >> > for
>> >> > all your help.
>> >> >
>> >> > Nathan
>> >> >
>> >> > "Rick" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Thank Larry Samuels for the following link:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/genuine/pur...alifyInfo.aspx
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The TAP program is currently slated to end July 31st - no more
>> >> >> trading
>> >> >> in a current license for x64. The OEM version is available for
>> >> >> sale,
>> >> >> along with a qualifying piece on non-peripheral hardware, at many
>> >> >> places. Do a Froogle search for "ZAT-00007" which is the part
>> >> >> number
>> >> >> for Windows x64.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> mrnathan wrote:
>> >> >> > + in that case will you not be able to get x64 after July 31st???
>> >> >> > seems
>> >> >> > a
>> >> >> > little strange.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Rick" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>Not according to anything that has been published. It has been
>> >> >> >>stated
>> >> >> >>numerous times that it will only be OEM.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>If your disc has a holograph, Microsoft had a program about a
>> >> >> >>month
>> >> >> >>or
>> >> >> >>so ago where they would exchange your pirated disk for a valid
>> >> >> >>one
>> >> >> >>if
>> >> >> >>you provided all the information as to where it was obtained.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>All legitimate copies of Microsoft Windows are on holograph
>> >> >> >>disks,
>> >> >> >>and
>> >> >> >>are accompanied by Certificate of Authenticity which has the COA
>> >> >> >>number
>> >> >> >>and the Product Key. The COA also has holographs of "GENUINE"
>> >> >> >>and
>> >> >> >>"Microsoft" that can be seen when the light reflects off it.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>mrnathan wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>The Product Key was on a red printed sticker on the outside of
>> >> >> >>>the
>> >> >> >>>shrinkwrap
>> >> >> >>>packaging. It worked, and I have since registered the copy, so
>> >> >> >>>I
>> >> >> >>>assume its
>> >> >> >>>unique and genuine.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>Another small question....if the deadline for upgrading to x64
>> >> >> >>>is
>> >> >> >>>the
>> >> >> >>>31st
>> >> >> >>>of July, does that mean it will turn retail on the 1st of
>> >> >> >>>august?
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>nathan
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>"Rick" wrote:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>>Where did you get the Product Key for the installation?
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>mrnathan wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>I did buy the copy online, but it came as the origianl copy,
>> >> >> >>>>>with
>> >> >> >>>>>the
>> >> >> >>>>>origianl (hologram) disc, and the documentation. And its the
>> >> >> >>>>>service pack 2
>> >> >> >>>>>edition, and iv registered it no probs, which i wouldnt have
>> >> >> >>>>>been
>> >> >> >>>>>able to do
>> >> >> >>>>>if it were a copy.
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>Am i right?
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>nathan
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>"Larry Samuels" wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>As Mike stated, *ALL* legitimate OEM copies come with the
>> >> >> >>>>>>COA.
>> >> >> >>>>>>No COA = 100% certainty the software is an illegal copy.
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>--
>> >> >> >>>>>>Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
>> >> >> >>>>>>Associate Expert
>> >> >> >>>>>>Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> >> >> >>>>>>Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
>> >> >> >>>>>>http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
>> >> >> >>>>>>"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <> wrote in
>> >> >> >>>>>>message
>> >> >> >>>>>>news:.. .
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>Maybe there is some glitch in the program accepting either
>> >> >> >>>>>>>PID
>> >> >> >>>>>>>or
>> >> >> >>>>>>>COA, try
>> >> >> >>>>>>>again at a later date.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>--
>> >> >> >>>>>>>Andre
>> >> >> >>>>>>>Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>> >> >> >>>>>>>Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>> >> >> >>>>>>>http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>> >> >> >>>>>>>FAQ for MS AntiSpy
>> >> >> >>>>>>>http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
>> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>"Larry Samuels" <> wrote in message
>> >> >> >>>>>>>news:. ..
>> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>Not bootlegged copies <VBEG>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>I suspect this is the case here.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>Any bets the "OEM copy" was purchased online??
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>--
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>Associate Expert
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

Yeah that site is definitely shady. The question I would like to ask is, how
people really manage to encounter these type of sites with the plethora of
well known online retailers such as newegg.com, directron.com, cdw.com and
ncix.com.
--
Andre
Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

"Larry Samuels" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Several reasons:
>
> 1>The fact that the price for XP pro is way below my wholesale price as a
> system builder is a dead giveaway. There is no such thing as surplus OS
> since OEMs can return unused product to the vendors for credit.
>
> 2>At no point do they state a COA is included and it is illegal to sell
> the OS without the COA .
>
> 3>They state they are selling branded copies of XP Home (Dell,etc). It is
> illegal for them to sell branded copies of the OS as the branded discs can
> only be sold with a complete PC from the manufacturer whose name is on the
> disc.
>
>
> --
> Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
> http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
>
> "mrnathan" <> wrote in message
> news:333C6D1C-759F-4B87-B53D-...
>> ok, any reason why you say that? well iv reported them so we'll see what
>> happens.
>>
>> "Larry Samuels" wrote:
>>
>>> Did you purchase it here?
>>>
>>> http://www.itechwholesale.com/pd_mic...ofessional.cfm
>>>
>>> If so, it is definitely bootleg.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
>>> Associate Expert
>>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>> Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
>>> http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
>
>

Hi Andre,

Such sites can be found any way from email offers (I get them by the
hundreds) to a simple search on Google or Amazon.

While legit retailers are well known to those of us in the business or those
that hang out online constantly, the average user is at the mercy of the
search engines.

The main thing to remember when purchasing online is that if it sounds too
good to be true, it probably is.

--
Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm

"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Yeah that site is definitely shady. The question I would like to ask is,
> how people really manage to encounter these type of sites with the
> plethora of well known online retailers such as newegg.com, directron.com,
> cdw.com and ncix.com.
> --
> Andre
> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
> FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

Let me make a quote from Windows XP Help and Support:
Don't be a victim of software piracy, and the possible legal and technical
risks that may come with it. Be sure that you are acquiring genuine software
that is properly installed, fully supported, and legal.

The following warning signs can help you identify counterfeit or illegal
software:

a.. Prices that are "too good to be true."
b.. Suspicious methods of delivery and/or payment.
c.. Retail software delivered in jewel cases rather than in full-color
retail boxes.
d.. Software marked with phrases such as "For distribution with a new PC
only" or "Special CD for licensed customers only" that do not accurately
describe the transaction.
--
Andre
Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

"Larry Samuels" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Hi Andre,
>
> Such sites can be found any way from email offers (I get them by the
> hundreds) to a simple search on Google or Amazon.
>
> While legit retailers are well known to those of us in the business or
> those that hang out online constantly, the average user is at the mercy of
> the search engines.
>
> The main thing to remember when purchasing online is that if it sounds too
> good to be true, it probably is.
>
> --
> Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
> http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
>
> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Yeah that site is definitely shady. The question I would like to ask is,
>> how people really manage to encounter these type of sites with the
>> plethora of well known online retailers such as newegg.com,
>> directron.com, cdw.com and ncix.com.
>> --
>> Andre
>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>> FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
>
>

Friendly reminder.. If you determine it necessary, your credit card company
may be able to assist in recovering the charge. I'd be keeping a closer
watch than usual on the CC account activity. A company that would engage in
this type of activity, well, you know the rest..


"mrnathan" <> wrote in message
news:333C6D1C-759F-4B87-B53D-...
> ok, any reason why you say that? well iv reported them so we'll see what
> happens.
>
> "Larry Samuels" wrote:
>
> > Did you purchase it here?
> >
> > http://www.itechwholesale.com/pd_mic...ofessional.cfm
> >
> > If so, it is definitely bootleg.
> >
> > --
> > Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
> > Associate Expert
> > Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
> > http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
> >
> > "mrnathan" <> wrote in message
> > news:FEDC1F35-C835-4243-9833-...
> > >I did, it tells me that I have a valid key. I have also done a test to
see
> > > if the copy i have is genuine and it says it is (the CD, packaging and
the
> > > key, the only thing I dont have is the COA number/sticker). I have
also
> > > registered the product, proving that the seriel I used was unique and
> > > genuine. As far as im aware the key is valid, it just didnt come from
a
> > > COA
> > > sticker. I have contacted itechwholesale.com for a refund/COA
sticker,
> > > awaiting replies from them.
> > >
> > > i have also reported them to microsoft for piracy.
> > >
> > > But as I said, everything iv done indicates the the product key I got
was
> > > genuine, im not sure why it didnt come from a COA sticker though. Who
> > > knows!
> > >
> > > I wish id of known that i could have just bought x64, cause i would
have
> > > just done that, but when i searched for it just as: 'windows x64' i
> > > couldnt
> > > find any copies..? maybe i looked before it was released or something,
who
> > > knows, but hopefully ill get a result from itech then can just buy
x64.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Larry Samuels" wrote:
> > >
> > >> You *DO NOT* have a valid key!
> > >>
> > >> ALL legitimate OEM copies come with the key printed on the COA. The
fact
> > >> your key came on a red sticker instead of on the COA proves that it
was a
> > >> key produced with a key generator.
> > >>
> > >> Follow the steps on the link I provided to see if you can qualify for
> > >> free
> > >> or reduced cost replacement of your illegal copy.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
> > >> Associate Expert
> > >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > >> Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
> > >> http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
> > >>
> > >> "mrnathan" <> wrote in message
> > >> news:0B74DAEB-C7CF-4D30-B864-...
> > >> > Thanks for the links. the swap program thing is only available for
> > >> > those
> > >> > without valid product keys, so as i have a valid product key i cant
> > >> > regioster
> > >> > for it.
> > >> >
> > >> > I wish i realised that an OEM copy of x64 was available as I would
have
> > >> > just
> > >> > bought that instead! im just trying to get a refund on my copy of
XP
> > >> > pro
> > >> > now,
> > >> > and have reported them for providing the software without a COA.
> > >> > thanks
> > >> > for
> > >> > all your help.
> > >> >
> > >> > Nathan
> > >> >
> > >> > "Rick" wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Thank Larry Samuels for the following link:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/genuine/pur...alifyInfo.aspx
> > >> >>
> > >> >> The TAP program is currently slated to end July 31st - no more
trading
> > >> >> in a current license for x64. The OEM version is available for
sale,
> > >> >> along with a qualifying piece on non-peripheral hardware, at many
> > >> >> places. Do a Froogle search for "ZAT-00007" which is the part
number
> > >> >> for Windows x64.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> mrnathan wrote:
> > >> >> > + in that case will you not be able to get x64 after July
31st???
> > >> >> > seems
> > >> >> > a
> > >> >> > little strange.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > "Rick" wrote:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >>Not according to anything that has been published. It has been
> > >> >> >>stated
> > >> >> >>numerous times that it will only be OEM.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>If your disc has a holograph, Microsoft had a program about a
month
> > >> >> >>or
> > >> >> >>so ago where they would exchange your pirated disk for a valid
one
> > >> >> >>if
> > >> >> >>you provided all the information as to where it was obtained.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>All legitimate copies of Microsoft Windows are on holograph
disks,
> > >> >> >>and
> > >> >> >>are accompanied by Certificate of Authenticity which has the COA
> > >> >> >>number
> > >> >> >>and the Product Key. The COA also has holographs of "GENUINE"
and
> > >> >> >>"Microsoft" that can be seen when the light reflects off it.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>mrnathan wrote:
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>>The Product Key was on a red printed sticker on the outside of
the
> > >> >> >>>shrinkwrap
> > >> >> >>>packaging. It worked, and I have since registered the copy, so
I
> > >> >> >>>assume its
> > >> >> >>>unique and genuine.
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>>Another small question....if the deadline for upgrading to x64
is
> > >> >> >>>the
> > >> >> >>>31st
> > >> >> >>>of July, does that mean it will turn retail on the 1st of
august?
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>>nathan
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>>"Rick" wrote:
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>>>Where did you get the Product Key for the installation?
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> >>>>mrnathan wrote:
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> >>>>>I did buy the copy online, but it came as the origianl copy,
with
> > >> >> >>>>>the
> > >> >> >>>>>origianl (hologram) disc, and the documentation. And its the
> > >> >> >>>>>service pack 2
> > >> >> >>>>>edition, and iv registered it no probs, which i wouldnt have
been
> > >> >> >>>>>able to do
> > >> >> >>>>>if it were a copy.
> > >> >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>>Am i right?
> > >> >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>>nathan
> > >> >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>>"Larry Samuels" wrote:
> > >> >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>>>As Mike stated, *ALL* legitimate OEM copies come with the
COA.
> > >> >> >>>>>>No COA = 100% certainty the software is an illegal copy.
> > >> >> >>>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>>>--
> > >> >> >>>>>>Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
> > >> >> >>>>>>Associate Expert
> > >> >> >>>>>>Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > >> >> >>>>>>Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
> > >> >> >>>>>>http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
> > >> >> >>>>>>"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <> wrote
in
> > >> >> >>>>>>message
> > >> >> >>>>>>news:.. .
> > >> >> >>>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>>>>Maybe there is some glitch in the program accepting either
PID
> > >> >> >>>>>>>or
> > >> >> >>>>>>>COA, try
> > >> >> >>>>>>>again at a later date.
> > >> >> >>>>>>>--
> > >> >> >>>>>>>Andre
> > >> >> >>>>>>>Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
> > >> >> >>>>>>>Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
> > >> >> >>>>>>>http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
> > >> >> >>>>>>>FAQ for MS AntiSpy
> > >> >> >>>>>>>http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
> > >> >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>>>>"Larry Samuels" <> wrote in message
> > >> >> >>>>>>>news:. ..
> > >> >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>>>>>Not bootlegged copies <VBEG>
> > >> >> >>>>>>>>I suspect this is the case here.
> > >> >> >>>>>>>>Any bets the "OEM copy" was purchased online??
> > >> >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>>>>>--
> > >> >> >>>>>>>>Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
> > >> >> >>>>>>>>Associate Expert
> > >> >> >>>>>>>>Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > >> >> >>>>>>>>Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
> > >> >> >>>>>>>>http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
> > >> >> >>>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
> >