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Google searched:
http://www.inpc.de/pics/davecutler.JPG

Can you confirm, I'm on dialup, can't bother to download or stream video and
I also can't bother with Real Player right now.
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"M. Murcek" <> wrote in message
news:e%...
> Here's a link from the AMD site of Cutler on video talking about x64.
> Unfortunately, you need RealPlayer (ugh!) to see it.
>
> http://www.amd.com/us-en/Weblets/0,,...5E7839,00.html
>
> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Has anyone ever seen a picture of Dave Cutler? I still don't know what he
>> looks like.
>> --
>> Andre
>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>> FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
>>
>> "M. Murcek" <> wrote in message
>> news:%...
>>> Yeah, and DEC is where Dave Cutler worked before he came to Microsoft to
>>> architect NT. Well, there are still some people running OpenVMS.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Dale Mad_Murdock White" <> wrote in message
>>> news:0uadnc-J1LZnVVzfRVn-...
>>>> Kinda reminds me of my old company Digital Equipment Corp (who also
>>>> sued
>>>> Intel for steal their technology) with their Alpha Processors, which
>>>> were 64
>>>> bit back in 95. But anyways, Digital aka DEC had the worse marketing
>>>> every
>>>> and everytime a mag would write a review about the latest processor, it
>>>> would be something like, "As usual DEC deliver a chip that is all
>>>> Steak, but
>>>> no sizzle" meaning we could market it for crap.
>>>>
>>>> Anyways, I was a die hardcore Intel guy, but switch over to AMD last
>>>> year. I
>>>> use my homebuilt Intel at work and the AMD for home and games. In my
>>>> opinion, they are both fine processors, and when comparing like chips
>>>> the
>>>> performance difference is really only noticeable when using a
>>>> benchmark,
>>>> else I would never know one from the other (mainly cause one is a 3.6
>>>> and
>>>> the other is a 3800+)
>>>>
>>>> I think AMD has done a great job of making a great chip, and if nothing
>>>> else
>>>> forced Intel to drop their prices, which is all I think any of us care
>>>> about, over a few percentage points either way.
>>>>
>>>> My two cents
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "M. Murcek" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:...
>>>>> This is really somewhat different from what Microsof has gone through.
>>>>> Chipmaking is really a capital-intensive heavy industry. Intel is a
>>>>> VERY
>>>>> big industrial company. I think AMD may have miscalculated here. And
>>>>> I
>>>> will
>>>>> not be responding to ANY flames from AMD fanbots, no matter how much
>>>>> personal invective they might try to heap on me for stating my opinion
>>>> here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just.Won't.Go.There...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <> wrote in message
>>>>> news:...
>>>>> > You are asking for World War III here.
>>>>> > --
>>>>> > Andre
>>>>> > Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>>>>> > Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>>>>> > http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>>>> > FAQ for MS AntiSpy
>>>>> > http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
>>>>> >
>>>>> > "John Barnes" <> wrote in message
>>>>> > news:e$qjk$...
>>>>> >>I hate to see this kind of thing. I love my AMD computers and don't
>>>> much
>>>>> >>use my Intel anymore, but this is just a stupid act of desperation.
>>>>> >> Just like I hated to see Microsoft crippled by theirs. No one wins
>>>> here.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> AMD files antitrust suit against Intel
>>>>> >> Advanced Micro Devices fired off a federal antitrust lawsuit
>>>>> >> against
>>>>> >> Intel on Tuesday, claiming that its rival has a monopolistic grip
>>>>> >> on
>>>> the
>>>>> >> PC industry.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

I used Windows Media Player to view it.

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"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Google searched:
> http://www.inpc.de/pics/davecutler.JPG
>
> Can you confirm, I'm on dialup, can't bother to download or stream video
> and I also can't bother with Real Player right now.
> --
> Andre
> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
> FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
>
> "M. Murcek" <> wrote in message
> news:e%...
>> Here's a link from the AMD site of Cutler on video talking about x64.
>> Unfortunately, you need RealPlayer (ugh!) to see it.
>>
>> http://www.amd.com/us-en/Weblets/0,,...5E7839,00.html
>>
>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> Has anyone ever seen a picture of Dave Cutler? I still don't know what
>>> he looks like.
>>> --
>>> Andre
>>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>> FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
>>>
>>> "M. Murcek" <> wrote in message
>>> news:%...
>>>> Yeah, and DEC is where Dave Cutler worked before he came to Microsoft
>>>> to architect NT. Well, there are still some people running OpenVMS.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Dale Mad_Murdock White" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:0uadnc-J1LZnVVzfRVn-...
>>>>> Kinda reminds me of my old company Digital Equipment Corp (who also
>>>>> sued
>>>>> Intel for steal their technology) with their Alpha Processors, which
>>>>> were 64
>>>>> bit back in 95. But anyways, Digital aka DEC had the worse marketing
>>>>> every
>>>>> and everytime a mag would write a review about the latest processor,
>>>>> it
>>>>> would be something like, "As usual DEC deliver a chip that is all
>>>>> Steak, but
>>>>> no sizzle" meaning we could market it for crap.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyways, I was a die hardcore Intel guy, but switch over to AMD last
>>>>> year. I
>>>>> use my homebuilt Intel at work and the AMD for home and games. In my
>>>>> opinion, they are both fine processors, and when comparing like chips
>>>>> the
>>>>> performance difference is really only noticeable when using a
>>>>> benchmark,
>>>>> else I would never know one from the other (mainly cause one is a 3.6
>>>>> and
>>>>> the other is a 3800+)
>>>>>
>>>>> I think AMD has done a great job of making a great chip, and if
>>>>> nothing else
>>>>> forced Intel to drop their prices, which is all I think any of us care
>>>>> about, over a few percentage points either way.
>>>>>
>>>>> My two cents
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "M. Murcek" <> wrote in message
>>>>> news:...
>>>>>> This is really somewhat different from what Microsof has gone
>>>>>> through.
>>>>>> Chipmaking is really a capital-intensive heavy industry. Intel is a
>>>>>> VERY
>>>>>> big industrial company. I think AMD may have miscalculated here. And
>>>>>> I
>>>>> will
>>>>>> not be responding to ANY flames from AMD fanbots, no matter how much
>>>>>> personal invective they might try to heap on me for stating my
>>>>>> opinion
>>>>> here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just.Won't.Go.There...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:...
>>>>>> > You are asking for World War III here.
>>>>>> > --
>>>>>> > Andre
>>>>>> > Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>>>>>> > Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>>>>>> > http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>>>>> > FAQ for MS AntiSpy
>>>>>> > http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > "John Barnes" <> wrote in message
>>>>>> > news:e$qjk$...
>>>>>> >>I hate to see this kind of thing. I love my AMD computers and
>>>>>> >>don't
>>>>> much
>>>>>> >>use my Intel anymore, but this is just a stupid act of desperation.
>>>>>> >> Just like I hated to see Microsoft crippled by theirs. No one
>>>>>> >> wins
>>>>> here.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> AMD files antitrust suit against Intel
>>>>>> >> Advanced Micro Devices fired off a federal antitrust lawsuit
>>>>>> >> against
>>>>>> >> Intel on Tuesday, claiming that its rival has a monopolistic grip
>>>>>> >> on
>>>>> the
>>>>>> >> PC industry.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

So that link to that picture I posted, is it Dave Cutler?
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"Torrey Lauer" <> wrote in message
news:...
>I used Windows Media Player to view it.
>
> --
> Torrey Lauer
> Modern Travel Services
> moderntravel DOT net
>
> Rainbow Sky Travel
> rainbow sky travel DOT net
> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Google searched:
>> http://www.inpc.de/pics/davecutler.JPG
>>
>> Can you confirm, I'm on dialup, can't bother to download or stream video
>> and I also can't bother with Real Player right now.
>> --
>> Andre
>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>> FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
>>
>> "M. Murcek" <> wrote in message
>> news:e%...
>>> Here's a link from the AMD site of Cutler on video talking about x64.
>>> Unfortunately, you need RealPlayer (ugh!) to see it.
>>>
>>> http://www.amd.com/us-en/Weblets/0,,...5E7839,00.html
>>>
>>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>> Has anyone ever seen a picture of Dave Cutler? I still don't know what
>>>> he looks like.
>>>> --
>>>> Andre
>>>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>>>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>>>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>>> FAQ for MS AntiSpy
>>>> http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
>>>>
>>>> "M. Murcek" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:%...
>>>>> Yeah, and DEC is where Dave Cutler worked before he came to Microsoft
>>>>> to architect NT. Well, there are still some people running OpenVMS.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Dale Mad_Murdock White" <> wrote in message
>>>>> news:0uadnc-J1LZnVVzfRVn-...
>>>>>> Kinda reminds me of my old company Digital Equipment Corp (who also
>>>>>> sued
>>>>>> Intel for steal their technology) with their Alpha Processors, which
>>>>>> were 64
>>>>>> bit back in 95. But anyways, Digital aka DEC had the worse marketing
>>>>>> every
>>>>>> and everytime a mag would write a review about the latest processor,
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> would be something like, "As usual DEC deliver a chip that is all
>>>>>> Steak, but
>>>>>> no sizzle" meaning we could market it for crap.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyways, I was a die hardcore Intel guy, but switch over to AMD last
>>>>>> year. I
>>>>>> use my homebuilt Intel at work and the AMD for home and games. In my
>>>>>> opinion, they are both fine processors, and when comparing like chips
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> performance difference is really only noticeable when using a
>>>>>> benchmark,
>>>>>> else I would never know one from the other (mainly cause one is a 3.6
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> the other is a 3800+)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think AMD has done a great job of making a great chip, and if
>>>>>> nothing else
>>>>>> forced Intel to drop their prices, which is all I think any of us
>>>>>> care
>>>>>> about, over a few percentage points either way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My two cents
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "M. Murcek" <> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:...
>>>>>>> This is really somewhat different from what Microsof has gone
>>>>>>> through.
>>>>>>> Chipmaking is really a capital-intensive heavy industry. Intel is a
>>>>>>> VERY
>>>>>>> big industrial company. I think AMD may have miscalculated here.
>>>>>>> And I
>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> not be responding to ANY flames from AMD fanbots, no matter how much
>>>>>>> personal invective they might try to heap on me for stating my
>>>>>>> opinion
>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just.Won't.Go.There...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <> wrote in
>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>> news:...
>>>>>>> > You are asking for World War III here.
>>>>>>> > --
>>>>>>> > Andre
>>>>>>> > Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>>>>>>> > Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>>>>>>> > http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>>>>>> > FAQ for MS AntiSpy
>>>>>>> > http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > "John Barnes" <> wrote in message
>>>>>>> > news:e$qjk$...
>>>>>>> >>I hate to see this kind of thing. I love my AMD computers and
>>>>>>> >>don't
>>>>>> much
>>>>>>> >>use my Intel anymore, but this is just a stupid act of
>>>>>>> >>desperation.
>>>>>>> >> Just like I hated to see Microsoft crippled by theirs. No one
>>>>>>> >> wins
>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> AMD files antitrust suit against Intel
>>>>>>> >> Advanced Micro Devices fired off a federal antitrust lawsuit
>>>>>>> >> against
>>>>>>> >> Intel on Tuesday, claiming that its rival has a monopolistic grip
>>>>>>> >> on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> >> PC industry.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Yes.

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"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> So that link to that picture I posted, is it Dave Cutler?
> --
> Andre
> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
> FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
>
> "Torrey Lauer" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>>I used Windows Media Player to view it.
>>
>> --
>> Torrey Lauer
>> Modern Travel Services
>> moderntravel DOT net
>>
>> Rainbow Sky Travel
>> rainbow sky travel DOT net
>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> Google searched:
>>> http://www.inpc.de/pics/davecutler.JPG
>>>
>>> Can you confirm, I'm on dialup, can't bother to download or stream video
>>> and I also can't bother with Real Player right now.
>>> --
>>> Andre
>>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>> FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
>>>
>>> "M. Murcek" <> wrote in message
>>> news:e%...
>>>> Here's a link from the AMD site of Cutler on video talking about x64.
>>>> Unfortunately, you need RealPlayer (ugh!) to see it.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.amd.com/us-en/Weblets/0,,...5E7839,00.html
>>>>
>>>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:...
>>>>> Has anyone ever seen a picture of Dave Cutler? I still don't know what
>>>>> he looks like.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Andre
>>>>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>>>>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>>>>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>>>> FAQ for MS AntiSpy
>>>>> http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> "M. Murcek" <> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%...
>>>>>> Yeah, and DEC is where Dave Cutler worked before he came to Microsoft
>>>>>> to architect NT. Well, there are still some people running OpenVMS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Dale Mad_Murdock White" <> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:0uadnc-J1LZnVVzfRVn-...
>>>>>>> Kinda reminds me of my old company Digital Equipment Corp (who also
>>>>>>> sued
>>>>>>> Intel for steal their technology) with their Alpha Processors, which
>>>>>>> were 64
>>>>>>> bit back in 95. But anyways, Digital aka DEC had the worse marketing
>>>>>>> every
>>>>>>> and everytime a mag would write a review about the latest processor,
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> would be something like, "As usual DEC deliver a chip that is all
>>>>>>> Steak, but
>>>>>>> no sizzle" meaning we could market it for crap.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyways, I was a die hardcore Intel guy, but switch over to AMD last
>>>>>>> year. I
>>>>>>> use my homebuilt Intel at work and the AMD for home and games. In my
>>>>>>> opinion, they are both fine processors, and when comparing like
>>>>>>> chips the
>>>>>>> performance difference is really only noticeable when using a
>>>>>>> benchmark,
>>>>>>> else I would never know one from the other (mainly cause one is a
>>>>>>> 3.6 and
>>>>>>> the other is a 3800+)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think AMD has done a great job of making a great chip, and if
>>>>>>> nothing else
>>>>>>> forced Intel to drop their prices, which is all I think any of us
>>>>>>> care
>>>>>>> about, over a few percentage points either way.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My two cents
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "M. Murcek" <> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:...
>>>>>>>> This is really somewhat different from what Microsof has gone
>>>>>>>> through.
>>>>>>>> Chipmaking is really a capital-intensive heavy industry. Intel is
>>>>>>>> a VERY
>>>>>>>> big industrial company. I think AMD may have miscalculated here.
>>>>>>>> And I
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> not be responding to ANY flames from AMD fanbots, no matter how
>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>> personal invective they might try to heap on me for stating my
>>>>>>>> opinion
>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just.Won't.Go.There...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <> wrote in
>>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>>> news:...
>>>>>>>> > You are asking for World War III here.
>>>>>>>> > --
>>>>>>>> > Andre
>>>>>>>> > Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>>>>>>>> > Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>>>>>>>> > http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>>>>>>> > FAQ for MS AntiSpy
>>>>>>>> > http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > "John Barnes" <> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> > news:e$qjk$...
>>>>>>>> >>I hate to see this kind of thing. I love my AMD computers and
>>>>>>>> >>don't
>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>> >>use my Intel anymore, but this is just a stupid act of
>>>>>>>> >>desperation.
>>>>>>>> >> Just like I hated to see Microsoft crippled by theirs. No one
>>>>>>>> >> wins
>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> AMD files antitrust suit against Intel
>>>>>>>> >> Advanced Micro Devices fired off a federal antitrust lawsuit
>>>>>>>> >> against
>>>>>>>> >> Intel on Tuesday, claiming that its rival has a monopolistic
>>>>>>>> >> grip on
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> >> PC industry.
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Thank you.
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"Torrey Lauer" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Yes.
>
> --
> Torrey Lauer
> Modern Travel Services
> moderntravel DOT net
>
> Rainbow Sky Travel
> rainbow sky travel DOT net
> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <> wrote in message
> news:%...
>> So that link to that picture I posted, is it Dave Cutler?
>> --
>> Andre
>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>> FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
>>
>> "Torrey Lauer" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>>I used Windows Media Player to view it.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Torrey Lauer
>>> Modern Travel Services
>>> moderntravel DOT net
>>>
>>> Rainbow Sky Travel
>>> rainbow sky travel DOT net
>>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>> Google searched:
>>>> http://www.inpc.de/pics/davecutler.JPG
>>>>
>>>> Can you confirm, I'm on dialup, can't bother to download or stream
>>>> video and I also can't bother with Real Player right now.
>>>> --
>>>> Andre
>>>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>>>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>>>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>>> FAQ for MS AntiSpy
>>>> http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
>>>>
>>>> "M. Murcek" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:e%...
>>>>> Here's a link from the AMD site of Cutler on video talking about x64.
>>>>> Unfortunately, you need RealPlayer (ugh!) to see it.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.amd.com/us-en/Weblets/0,,...5E7839,00.html
>>>>>
>>>>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <> wrote in message
>>>>> news:...
>>>>>> Has anyone ever seen a picture of Dave Cutler? I still don't know
>>>>>> what he looks like.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Andre
>>>>>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>>>>>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>>>>>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>>>>> FAQ for MS AntiSpy
>>>>>> http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "M. Murcek" <> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:%...
>>>>>>> Yeah, and DEC is where Dave Cutler worked before he came to
>>>>>>> Microsoft to architect NT. Well, there are still some people
>>>>>>> running OpenVMS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Dale Mad_Murdock White" <> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:0uadnc-J1LZnVVzfRVn-...
>>>>>>>> Kinda reminds me of my old company Digital Equipment Corp (who also
>>>>>>>> sued
>>>>>>>> Intel for steal their technology) with their Alpha Processors,
>>>>>>>> which were 64
>>>>>>>> bit back in 95. But anyways, Digital aka DEC had the worse
>>>>>>>> marketing every
>>>>>>>> and everytime a mag would write a review about the latest
>>>>>>>> processor, it
>>>>>>>> would be something like, "As usual DEC deliver a chip that is all
>>>>>>>> Steak, but
>>>>>>>> no sizzle" meaning we could market it for crap.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyways, I was a die hardcore Intel guy, but switch over to AMD
>>>>>>>> last year. I
>>>>>>>> use my homebuilt Intel at work and the AMD for home and games. In
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> opinion, they are both fine processors, and when comparing like
>>>>>>>> chips the
>>>>>>>> performance difference is really only noticeable when using a
>>>>>>>> benchmark,
>>>>>>>> else I would never know one from the other (mainly cause one is a
>>>>>>>> 3.6 and
>>>>>>>> the other is a 3800+)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think AMD has done a great job of making a great chip, and if
>>>>>>>> nothing else
>>>>>>>> forced Intel to drop their prices, which is all I think any of us
>>>>>>>> care
>>>>>>>> about, over a few percentage points either way.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My two cents
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "M. Murcek" <> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:...
>>>>>>>>> This is really somewhat different from what Microsof has gone
>>>>>>>>> through.
>>>>>>>>> Chipmaking is really a capital-intensive heavy industry. Intel is
>>>>>>>>> a VERY
>>>>>>>>> big industrial company. I think AMD may have miscalculated here.
>>>>>>>>> And I
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>> not be responding to ANY flames from AMD fanbots, no matter how
>>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>> personal invective they might try to heap on me for stating my
>>>>>>>>> opinion
>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just.Won't.Go.There...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>>>> news:...
>>>>>>>>> > You are asking for World War III here.
>>>>>>>>> > --
>>>>>>>>> > Andre
>>>>>>>>> > Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>>>>>>>>> > Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>>>>>>>>> > http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>>>>>>>> > FAQ for MS AntiSpy
>>>>>>>>> > http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > "John Barnes" <> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> > news:e$qjk$...
>>>>>>>>> >>I hate to see this kind of thing. I love my AMD computers and
>>>>>>>>> >>don't
>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>> >>use my Intel anymore, but this is just a stupid act of
>>>>>>>>> >>desperation.
>>>>>>>>> >> Just like I hated to see Microsoft crippled by theirs. No one
>>>>>>>>> >> wins
>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> AMD files antitrust suit against Intel
>>>>>>>>> >> Advanced Micro Devices fired off a federal antitrust lawsuit
>>>>>>>>> >> against
>>>>>>>>> >> Intel on Tuesday, claiming that its rival has a monopolistic
>>>>>>>>> >> grip on
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> >> PC industry.
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

> This is definitely good for them and bad for Intel no matter
> the outcome. Its the david and goliath media blitz.

I don't know. Until this lawsuit was announced, I was split over getting an
AMD X2 or a P4 Extreme Edition (I've always been an Intel fanboy but it
looks like the X2 is gonna give Intel a real run for its money). Now I know
I'm not gonna spend a grand on an AMD chip only to have it go their lawyers.

Filing frivolous lawsuits is one way to turn me away from a company. If you
believe otherwise, then that's your right.

Homer J. Simpson wrote:

>>This is definitely good for them and bad for Intel no matter
>>the outcome. Its the david and goliath media blitz.
>
>I don't know. Until this lawsuit was announced, I was split over getting
>an AMD X2 or a P4 Extreme Edition (I've always been an Intel fanboy but it
>looks like the X2 is gonna give Intel a real run for its money). Now I
>know I'm not gonna spend a grand on an AMD chip only to have it go their
>lawyers.
>
>Filing frivolous lawsuits is one way to turn me away from a company. If
>you believe otherwise, then that's your right.

How's this for frivolous?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/06...ide_nastygram/

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And I thought this sort of behavior was limited to pharmaceuticals. I hope
the claims turn out to be unfounded but it makes good reading.

Press Release
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/V...~99713,00.html
Full Complaint
http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/cont..._Complaint.pdf

"John Barnes" <> wrote in message
news:e$qjk$...
>I hate to see this kind of thing. I love my AMD computers and don't much
>use my Intel anymore, but this is just a stupid act of desperation.
> Just like I hated to see Microsoft crippled by theirs. No one wins here.
>
> AMD files antitrust suit against Intel
> Advanced Micro Devices fired off a federal antitrust lawsuit against Intel
> on Tuesday, claiming that its rival has a monopolistic grip on the PC
> industry.
>

Lets hope we see a merger between AMD and Intel. AMD handles 64 bit on
the desktop and Small Business, Mid-Market and Intel handles 64 bit on the
high-end Enterprise Server.
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"Steve Foster [SBS MVP]" <> wrote in message
news...
> Homer J. Simpson wrote:
>
>>>This is definitely good for them and bad for Intel no matter
>>>the outcome. Its the david and goliath media blitz.
>>
>>I don't know. Until this lawsuit was announced, I was split over getting
>>an AMD X2 or a P4 Extreme Edition (I've always been an Intel fanboy but it
>>looks like the X2 is gonna give Intel a real run for its money). Now I
>>know I'm not gonna spend a grand on an AMD chip only to have it go their
>>lawyers.
>>
>>Filing frivolous lawsuits is one way to turn me away from a company. If
>>you believe otherwise, then that's your right.
>
> How's this for frivolous?
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/06...ide_nastygram/
>
> --
> Steve Foster [SBS MVP]
> ---------------------------------------
> MVPs do not work for Microsoft. Please reply only to the newsgroups.

Hardly. Where there is an unoccupied lawyer, there will be fraudulent cases
of finger parts in you name it, and you made me fat suits all over the
place.


"Intel_Fan" <> wrote in message
news:...
> And I thought this sort of behavior was limited to pharmaceuticals. I hope
> the claims turn out to be unfounded but it makes good reading.
>
> Press Release
> http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/V...~99713,00.html
> Full Complaint
> http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/cont..._Complaint.pdf
>
> "John Barnes" <> wrote in message
> news:e$qjk$...
>>I hate to see this kind of thing. I love my AMD computers and don't much
>>use my Intel anymore, but this is just a stupid act of desperation.
>> Just like I hated to see Microsoft crippled by theirs. No one wins here.
>>
>> AMD files antitrust suit against Intel
>> Advanced Micro Devices fired off a federal antitrust lawsuit against
>> Intel
>> on Tuesday, claiming that its rival has a monopolistic grip on the PC
>> industry.
>>
>
>
>