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Don Awalt
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      06-20-2005
I have the Start menu set up so Control Panel is a link on it. If I right
click on Control Panel and do either Open or Explore, I get the x64 applet
list of icons. If I just click on it, I get the six 32 bit ones that are
pointed to in the full list by the "View x86 Control Panel Icons" icon. How
does that all work, that's very confusing (and at first I thought I had lost
all my control panel applets!) ?

Thanks...


 
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Steve Foster [SBS MVP]
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      06-20-2005
Don Awalt wrote:

> I have the Start menu set up so Control Panel is a link on it. If I

right click on Control Panel and do either Open or Explore, I get the x64
applet list of icons. If I just click on it, I get the six 32 bit ones
that are pointed to in the full list by the "View x86 Control Panel Icons"
icon. How does that all work, that's very confusing (and at first I
thought I had lost all my control panel applets!) ?
>
> Thanks...


Just a WAG, but have you switched Explorer to the 32-bit version (so as to
get various shell extensions working)?

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Don Awalt
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      06-20-2005
Not knowingly <g>. Do you not see this behavior?

"Steve Foster [SBS MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Don Awalt wrote:
>
>> I have the Start menu set up so Control Panel is a link on it. If I

> right click on Control Panel and do either Open or Explore, I get the x64
> applet list of icons. If I just click on it, I get the six 32 bit ones
> that are pointed to in the full list by the "View x86 Control Panel Icons"
> icon. How does that all work, that's very confusing (and at first I
> thought I had lost all my control panel applets!) ?
>>
>> Thanks...

>
> Just a WAG, but have you switched Explorer to the 32-bit version (so as to
> get various shell extensions working)?
>
> --
> Steve Foster [SBS MVP]
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> MVPs do not work for Microsoft. Please reply only to the newsgroups.



 
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Steve Foster [SBS MVP]
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      06-21-2005
Don Awalt wrote:

> Not knowingly <g>. Do you not see this behavior?
>


No, I get the full set of 64 bit applets in "classic view", and the normal
categories in "category view", along with an option to see "32 bit
options" and "other control panel options", pretty much just as you'd
expect.

It just seemed logical that if you'd switched to 32-bit explorer, you'd
get a 32-bit control panel.

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Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
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      06-21-2005
Hello Steve,
You are correct. If you are running 32-bit Explorer and you open control
panel from that explorer session, you will start with the 32-bit control
panel.
The funny thing is then the Open and Explore options are then opening with
64-bit control panel.
Don,
These settings are defined at a
HKLM\software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Con trol Panel\CPLS
and for 32-bit
HKLM\software\syswow64\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVe rsion\Control Panel\CPLS
Check these two settings and make sure there isn't anything unusual trying
to load in them, like a another CPL that is attempting to load.

This could imply that the Start Menu is trying to run as 32-explorer, open
My compueter or goto to Start: Programs: Accessories: Windows Explorer
Now do help about. Does dialog box bitmap show 64-bit in the title?

Thanks,
Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

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Don Awalt
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      06-21-2005
Darrell, you hit it - the Control Panel link you get on the Start Menu when
you ask for Control Panel to be displayed there is the 32 bit version. If I
go to the Advanced tab of properties when right-clicking on the Start button
and change the Control Panel radio button to "Display as a menu", I get the
64 bit applets showing. But if I set it to "Display as a menu", the version
of Explorer that comes up is the 32 bit version. Sounds like a bug, right? I
don't see a way to pick the 64 bit version...


""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hello Steve,
> You are correct. If you are running 32-bit Explorer and you open control
> panel from that explorer session, you will start with the 32-bit control
> panel.
> The funny thing is then the Open and Explore options are then opening with
> 64-bit control panel.
> Don,
> These settings are defined at a
> HKLM\software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Con trol Panel\CPLS
> and for 32-bit
> HKLM\software\syswow64\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVe rsion\Control Panel\CPLS
> Check these two settings and make sure there isn't anything unusual trying
> to load in them, like a another CPL that is attempting to load.
>
> This could imply that the Start Menu is trying to run as 32-explorer, open
> My compueter or goto to Start: Programs: Accessories: Windows Explorer
> Now do help about. Does dialog box bitmap show 64-bit in the title?
>
> Thanks,
> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
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> <Don Awalt wrote:
> <
> <> Not knowingly <g>. Do you not see this behavior?
> <>
> <
> <No, I get the full set of 64 bit applets in "classic view", and the
> normal
> <categories in "category view", along with an option to see "32 bit
> <options" and "other control panel options", pretty much just as you'd
> <expect.
> <
> <It just seemed logical that if you'd switched to 32-bit explorer, you'd
> <get a 32-bit control panel.
> <
> <--
> <Steve Foster [SBS MVP]
> <---------------------------------------
> <MVPs do not work for Microsoft. Please reply only to the newsgroups.
> <
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Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
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      06-21-2005
Hello Don,
What is funny is that I can't repro your issue.
I tried several times to change that setting to see if it would default to
the 32-bit version, but I only get the 64-bit version.
It shows as link on my start menu and it's 64-bit as it should be.
Thanks,
Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

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<Darrell, you hit it - the Control Panel link you get on the Start Menu
when
<you ask for Control Panel to be displayed there is the 32 bit version. If
I
<go to the Advanced tab of properties when right-clicking on the Start
button
<and change the Control Panel radio button to "Display as a menu", I get
the
<64 bit applets showing. But if I set it to "Display as a menu", the
version
<of Explorer that comes up is the 32 bit version. Sounds like a bug, right?
I
<don't see a way to pick the 64 bit version...
<
<
<""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
<news:(E-Mail Removed)...
<> Hello Steve,
<> You are correct. If you are running 32-bit Explorer and you open control
<> panel from that explorer session, you will start with the 32-bit control
<> panel.
<> The funny thing is then the Open and Explore options are then opening
with
<> 64-bit control panel.
<> Don,
<> These settings are defined at a
<> HKLM\software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Con trol Panel\CPLS
<> and for 32-bit
<> HKLM\software\syswow64\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVe rsion\Control
Panel\CPLS
<> Check these two settings and make sure there isn't anything unusual
trying
<> to load in them, like a another CPL that is attempting to load.
<>
<> This could imply that the Start Menu is trying to run as 32-explorer,
open
<> My compueter or goto to Start: Programs: Accessories: Windows Explorer
<> Now do help about. Does dialog box bitmap show 64-bit in the title?
<>
<> Thanks,
<> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
<>
<> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights
<> --------------------
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<> <Subject: Re: Control Panel - I don't understand this
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<> <Don Awalt wrote:
<> <
<> <> Not knowingly <g>. Do you not see this behavior?
<> <>
<> <
<> <No, I get the full set of 64 bit applets in "classic view", and the
<> normal
<> <categories in "category view", along with an option to see "32 bit
<> <options" and "other control panel options", pretty much just as you'd
<> <expect.
<> <
<> <It just seemed logical that if you'd switched to 32-bit explorer, you'd
<> <get a 32-bit control panel.
<> <
<> <--
<> <Steve Foster [SBS MVP]
<> <---------------------------------------
<> <MVPs do not work for Microsoft. Please reply only to the newsgroups.
<> <
<>
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Don Awalt
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      06-21-2005
Hm. I turned it off by selecting a diffreent radio button on the Advanced
menu, (Rt-click-Start/Properties/Customize/Advanced) and turn it back on
again, and it's 32 bit. I'd be happy to debug if there's anything you can
suggest, I don't know what to play with since it's pretty intuitive in the
UI...


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> Hello Don,
> What is funny is that I can't repro your issue.
> I tried several times to change that setting to see if it would default to
> the 32-bit version, but I only get the 64-bit version.
> It shows as link on my start menu and it's 64-bit as it should be.
> Thanks,
> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
> --------------------
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> <Darrell, you hit it - the Control Panel link you get on the Start Menu
> when
> <you ask for Control Panel to be displayed there is the 32 bit version. If
> I
> <go to the Advanced tab of properties when right-clicking on the Start
> button
> <and change the Control Panel radio button to "Display as a menu", I get
> the
> <64 bit applets showing. But if I set it to "Display as a menu", the
> version
> <of Explorer that comes up is the 32 bit version. Sounds like a bug,
> right?
> I
> <don't see a way to pick the 64 bit version...
> <
> <
> <""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> <news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> <> Hello Steve,
> <> You are correct. If you are running 32-bit Explorer and you open
> control
> <> panel from that explorer session, you will start with the 32-bit
> control
> <> panel.
> <> The funny thing is then the Open and Explore options are then opening
> with
> <> 64-bit control panel.
> <> Don,
> <> These settings are defined at a
> <> HKLM\software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Con trol Panel\CPLS
> <> and for 32-bit
> <> HKLM\software\syswow64\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVe rsion\Control
> Panel\CPLS
> <> Check these two settings and make sure there isn't anything unusual
> trying
> <> to load in them, like a another CPL that is attempting to load.
> <>
> <> This could imply that the Start Menu is trying to run as 32-explorer,
> open
> <> My compueter or goto to Start: Programs: Accessories: Windows Explorer
> <> Now do help about. Does dialog box bitmap show 64-bit in the title?
> <>
> <> Thanks,
> <> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
> <>
> <> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights
> <> --------------------
> <> <From: "Steve Foster [SBS MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)>
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> <> <Don Awalt wrote:
> <> <
> <> <> Not knowingly <g>. Do you not see this behavior?
> <> <>
> <> <
> <> <No, I get the full set of 64 bit applets in "classic view", and the
> <> normal
> <> <categories in "category view", along with an option to see "32 bit
> <> <options" and "other control panel options", pretty much just as you'd
> <> <expect.
> <> <
> <> <It just seemed logical that if you'd switched to 32-bit explorer,
> you'd
> <> <get a 32-bit control panel.
> <> <
> <> <--
> <> <Steve Foster [SBS MVP]
> <> <---------------------------------------
> <> <MVPs do not work for Microsoft. Please reply only to the newsgroups.
> <> <
> <>
> <
> <
> <
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