Don't bother at the moment

Why on earth AYONE would want run this software, with virtually NO support
for Printers and Scanners etc. and half of the items in the installation,
like Media Player and Outlook Express or Office not working properly, I just
don't know.

I will be Un-installing the x64 OS and going back to the 32 bit OS, for at
least the time being until the PC world has sorted itself out.

At least I can rely on software and hardware that I have paid good money for
to work under the 32 bit system.

I may have a 64 bit processor onboard, but for me, for now, 32 bits will
have to do as I don't have time to continually search for something to work,
that worked fine before.

Please sort things out SOON, or the x64 OS will be a flash in the pan, well
this one will anyway.

Dennis

This is just history repeating itself in the computer industry, remember the
problems that occurred with Windows NT, 2000? Well, think of it on a much
larger scale. I would recommend setting up a dual boot configuration between
XP 32 bit and XP Pro x64 and take your time and transition to the platform.

But remember the target audience for Windows XP Pro x64:
-Engineering applications
-3D gaming
-Video editing
-Digital content creation
- life sciences
--

Andre
http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

"Dennis" <ddls11646remove > wrote in message
news:%...
> Why on earth AYONE would want run this software, with virtually NO support
> for Printers and Scanners etc. and half of the items in the installation,
> like Media Player and Outlook Express or Office not working properly, I
> just don't know.
>
> I will be Un-installing the x64 OS and going back to the 32 bit OS, for at
> least the time being until the PC world has sorted itself out.
>
> At least I can rely on software and hardware that I have paid good money
> for to work under the 32 bit system.
>
> I may have a 64 bit processor onboard, but for me, for now, 32 bits will
> have to do as I don't have time to continually search for something to
> work, that worked fine before.
>
> Please sort things out SOON, or the x64 OS will be a flash in the pan,
> well this one will anyway.
>
>
>
>

It doesn't matter; he doesn't want to be a part of the solution, only to buy
it when the rest of us are finished doing MS's dirty work -- for free. Not
sure why he should feel surprised or upset... It is what it is.

"Andre Da Costa" <> wrote in message
news:...
> This is just history repeating itself in the computer industry, remember
the
> problems that occurred with Windows NT, 2000? Well, think of it on a much
> larger scale. I would recommend setting up a dual boot configuration
between
> XP 32 bit and XP Pro x64 and take your time and transition to the
platform.
>
> But remember the target audience for Windows XP Pro x64:
> -Engineering applications
> -3D gaming
> -Video editing
> -Digital content creation
> - life sciences
> --
>
> Andre
> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
> FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
>
> "Dennis" <ddls11646remove > wrote in message
> news:%...
> > Why on earth AYONE would want run this software, with virtually NO
support
> > for Printers and Scanners etc. and half of the items in the
installation,
> > like Media Player and Outlook Express or Office not working properly, I
> > just don't know.
> >
> > I will be Un-installing the x64 OS and going back to the 32 bit OS, for
at
> > least the time being until the PC world has sorted itself out.
> >
> > At least I can rely on software and hardware that I have paid good money
> > for to work under the 32 bit system.
> >
> > I may have a 64 bit processor onboard, but for me, for now, 32 bits will
> > have to do as I don't have time to continually search for something to
> > work, that worked fine before.
> >
> > Please sort things out SOON, or the x64 OS will be a flash in the pan,
> > well this one will anyway.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Thanks for the advise and as I do a fair amount of Video Editing etc.and
some gaming, I would assume that I am among the TARGET audience.

I will do as you suggest and watch the scene with interest and bated breath
!!

Regards

"Andre Da Costa" <> wrote in message
news:...
> This is just history repeating itself in the computer industry, remember
> the problems that occurred with Windows NT, 2000? Well, think of it on a
> much larger scale. I would recommend setting up a dual boot configuration
> between XP 32 bit and XP Pro x64 and take your time and transition to the
> platform.
>
> But remember the target audience for Windows XP Pro x64:
> -Engineering applications
> -3D gaming
> -Video editing
> -Digital content creation
> - life sciences
> --
>
> Andre
> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
> FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
>
> "Dennis" <ddls11646remove > wrote in message
> news:%...
>> Why on earth AYONE would want run this software, with virtually NO
>> support for Printers and Scanners etc. and half of the items in the
>> installation, like Media Player and Outlook Express or Office not working
>> properly, I just don't know.
>>
>> I will be Un-installing the x64 OS and going back to the 32 bit OS, for
>> at least the time being until the PC world has sorted itself out.
>>
>> At least I can rely on software and hardware that I have paid good money
>> for to work under the 32 bit system.
>>
>> I may have a 64 bit processor onboard, but for me, for now, 32 bits will
>> have to do as I don't have time to continually search for something to
>> work, that worked fine before.
>>
>> Please sort things out SOON, or the x64 OS will be a flash in the pan,
>> well this one will anyway.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

I am not talking about Solitaire and home movies Dennis. just kidding.
--

Andre
http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

"Dennis" <ddls11646remove > wrote in message
news:...
> Thanks for the advise and as I do a fair amount of Video Editing etc.and
> some gaming, I would assume that I am among the TARGET audience.
>
> I will do as you suggest and watch the scene with interest and bated
> breath !!
>
> Regards
>
> "Andre Da Costa" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> This is just history repeating itself in the computer industry, remember
>> the problems that occurred with Windows NT, 2000? Well, think of it on a
>> much larger scale. I would recommend setting up a dual boot configuration
>> between XP 32 bit and XP Pro x64 and take your time and transition to the
>> platform.
>>
>> But remember the target audience for Windows XP Pro x64:
>> -Engineering applications
>> -3D gaming
>> -Video editing
>> -Digital content creation
>> - life sciences
>> --
>>
>> Andre
>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>> FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
>>
>> "Dennis" <ddls11646remove > wrote in message
>> news:%...
>>> Why on earth AYONE would want run this software, with virtually NO
>>> support for Printers and Scanners etc. and half of the items in the
>>> installation, like Media Player and Outlook Express or Office not
>>> working properly, I just don't know.
>>>
>>> I will be Un-installing the x64 OS and going back to the 32 bit OS, for
>>> at least the time being until the PC world has sorted itself out.
>>>
>>> At least I can rely on software and hardware that I have paid good money
>>> for to work under the 32 bit system.
>>>
>>> I may have a 64 bit processor onboard, but for me, for now, 32 bits will
>>> have to do as I don't have time to continually search for something to
>>> work, that worked fine before.
>>>
>>> Please sort things out SOON, or the x64 OS will be a flash in the pan,
>>> well this one will anyway.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

when the PC world moved from 16bit to 32bit .. it was slow at first ... as
you can see the change eventually happened in a BIG way. This transition
will happen as well .. in a BIG way

Vern



"Dennis" <ddls11646remove > wrote in message
news:%...
> Why on earth AYONE would want run this software, with virtually NO support
> for Printers and Scanners etc. and half of the items in the installation,
> like Media Player and Outlook Express or Office not working properly, I
just
> don't know.
>
> I will be Un-installing the x64 OS and going back to the 32 bit OS, for at
> least the time being until the PC world has sorted itself out.
>
> At least I can rely on software and hardware that I have paid good money
for
> to work under the 32 bit system.
>
> I may have a 64 bit processor onboard, but for me, for now, 32 bits will
> have to do as I don't have time to continually search for something to
work,
> that worked fine before.
>
> Please sort things out SOON, or the x64 OS will be a flash in the pan,
well
> this one will anyway.
>
>
>
>

We all make our decisions based on our tolerance for being a bit on the edge,
versus being in the mainstream, versus being in the safe zone. For Windows XP
Professional x64 Edition, at this point in time, you're on the edge. What
marketing folks call "Early Adopters". There are certainly risks associated
with that, but there's also real upside. The potential of 64-bit is exciting
and opens up new scenarios that we haven't even thought of yet. Many of the
most obvious at this point are in the server world, certainly. I talked to a
person at MS, for example, that had an historical pricing query that was
taking over 8 hours to run -- clearly NOT something that could be done often.
Moving to upgraded hardware and x64 Edition, that query is now around 5
minutes. There are also amazing examples in the workstation world -- CAD/CAM
is an obvious area where people can work in real time on projects that before
could only be done in wire frame, and only with overnight builds.

There is support in the OS for a whole range of printers, from a LOT of
manufacturers. No, not every printer you could possibly have. But where there
isn't a perfect fit, there is, in most cases, a reasonable alternative driver
while you wait for a better one. One option that many folks will use, I'm
sure, is one that I made a long time ago -- I make sure that every printer I
buy supports Postscript. There will be a print driver for it, no matter what
OS I'm on, and the driver will be there early in the beta cycle. If you want
to be on the leading edge of things, having Postscript as an option on your
printer is just a good idea. It may not be your best fit for everything, but
it will work.

Scanners? Sorry, not part of my life. There are some supported directly, and
others that there are workarounds for, I'm told. But in my experience in IT,
scanners were the bane of our existance. They were just plain unreliable and
delicate. The least thing seemed to set them off, and they were a time sink
to support.

As for Office, Media Player, etc not working properly? Excuse me, they work
just fine. OK, yes, the task bar doesn't work for Media Player. Annoying, but
hardly earthshattering. Office? Works just fine, thank you. Yes, it's a
32-bit app. So. It still works just fine.

But you ARE right about one thing -- if you aren't able to be a bit flexible
and tolerant and sometimes even creative, then this OS isn't for you. And you
really shouldn't be installing it. You've got the option to use 32-bit --
please take it. The life of an early adopter is not for everyone and clearly
not for you. That's not pejorative, just an observation based on your post.
But by the same token, do the rest of us a favour and don't go around bad
mouthing the OS because it doesn't have something you want in the first week
after it releases. Stick with your 32-bit apps and OS, and have fun over on
the newsgroups dedicated to supporting them. When you're ready to try again,
feel free to come back. But by then, I expect this NG to be dead and gone,
and all of us will be working with and thinking about something new and
different because by then 64-bit will be mainstream. And we'll be looking to
be Early Adopters of something else.


--
Charlie - Microsoft MVP for Server, Security and Tablet PC.

Dennis wrote:
> Why on earth AYONE would want run this software, with virtually NO
> support for Printers and Scanners etc. and half of the items in the
> installation, like Media Player and Outlook Express or Office not
> working properly, I just don't know.
>
> I will be Un-installing the x64 OS and going back to the 32 bit OS,
> for at least the time being until the PC world has sorted itself out.
>
> At least I can rely on software and hardware that I have paid good
> money for to work under the 32 bit system.
>
> I may have a 64 bit processor onboard, but for me, for now, 32 bits
> will have to do as I don't have time to continually search for
> something to work, that worked fine before.
>
> Please sort things out SOON, or the x64 OS will be a flash in the
> pan, well this one will anyway.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved
body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting
"...holy ****...what a ride!"


Dennis wrote:
> Why on earth AYONE would want run this software, with virtually NO support
> for Printers and Scanners etc. and half of the items in the installation,
> like Media Player and Outlook Express or Office not working properly, I just
> don't know.
>
> I will be Un-installing the x64 OS and going back to the 32 bit OS, for at
> least the time being until the PC world has sorted itself out.
>
> At least I can rely on software and hardware that I have paid good money for
> to work under the 32 bit system.
>
> I may have a 64 bit processor onboard, but for me, for now, 32 bits will
> have to do as I don't have time to continually search for something to work,
> that worked fine before.
>
> Please sort things out SOON, or the x64 OS will be a flash in the pan, well
> this one will anyway.
>
>
>
>

Charlie Russel - MVP wrote:
> We all make our decisions based on our tolerance for being a bit on
> the edge, versus being in the mainstream, versus being in the safe
> zone. For Windows XP Professional x64 Edition, at this point in time,
> you're on the edge. What marketing folks call "Early Adopters". There
> are certainly risks associated with that, but there's also real
> upside. The potential of 64-bit is exciting and opens up new
> scenarios that we haven't even thought of yet. Many of the most
> obvious at this point are in the server world, certainly. I talked to
> a person at MS, for example, that had an historical pricing query
> that was taking over 8 hours to run -- clearly NOT something that
> could be done often. Moving to upgraded hardware and x64 Edition,
> that query is now around 5 minutes. There are also amazing examples
> in the workstation world -- CAD/CAM is an obvious area where people
> can work in real time on projects that before could only be done in
> wire frame, and only with overnight builds.
>

I can't say that better
--
Christian Hougardy (MS XP MVP)
Johannesburg - South Africa
http://msmvps.com/xpditif

Well said...ROFL we got a kick out of that at work

That being said, I love being on the cutting edge (sometimess bleeding
edge!) hence my love of being on the MS Beta teams since W2k...I have ran
even server versions on the desktop for months at a time, using them for
everything from gaming to actual file serving. Yes, I have pooched some
installs and had a go at it again. Quite frankly, I get bored with the same
old stuff!!! My desktop pc typically gets a major upgrade every 6 months and
replaced every year. I am perfect for testing since I am so used to setting
up, installing, formatting, and repeating.

Maybe x64 is not for everyone, but someone has to work on it, find problems,
and help to fix them. I am using it full time now except for occasional tv
watching nad I am loving it....I have my old 32bit install still sitting
there in dual boot until I can either get some Leadtek drivers for my
capture card OR find a suitable replacement that already has 64bit
drivers....

The search goes on....

-Keith Schaefer


"Rick" <> wrote in message
news:u#...
> "Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved
> body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting
> "...holy ****...what a ride!"
>
>
> Dennis wrote:
> > Why on earth AYONE would want run this software, with virtually NO
support
> > for Printers and Scanners etc. and half of the items in the
installation,
> > like Media Player and Outlook Express or Office not working properly, I
just
> > don't know.
> >
> > I will be Un-installing the x64 OS and going back to the 32 bit OS, for
at
> > least the time being until the PC world has sorted itself out.
> >
> > At least I can rely on software and hardware that I have paid good money
for
> > to work under the 32 bit system.
> >
> > I may have a 64 bit processor onboard, but for me, for now, 32 bits will
> > have to do as I don't have time to continually search for something to
work,
> > that worked fine before.
> >
> > Please sort things out SOON, or the x64 OS will be a flash in the pan,
well
> > this one will anyway.
> >
> >
> >
> >