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Okay, I bought me a Zenith VCR-DVD combo which burns DVDs and records
on VHS http://www.zenith.com/sub_prod/produ...p?cat=&id=1046
and I bought me a Canopus ADVC 110 converter which will convert from
VHS tape or from camcorder tape to DVD. http://www.canopus.com/products/ADVC110/index.php

Now, suppose I borrow home movies from a friend to transfer to DVD.
Once I burn the DVD on my Zenith from their tape, is it "as digital as
it's going to get," and that's it? Can I just make myself a copy with
a DVD burner on my own Mac, and have the footage in as good a quality
as there is? Or do I have to run all the material directly onto hard
drive through the converter to have really good quality? What I'm
asking is
1. Is there a difference in quality when the Zenith saves me several
steps in converting material direct to digital?
2. Is there any generational loss if I make a DVD from another DVD,
since one is a copy but they're both digital?

Thanks for any abilities to explain this in terms understandable to my
mind.

Cori

I have a vaguish memory of someone possibly saying DVDs made on a
computer may be written more times than those on such a combo, and to
buy 8x DVDs, but it's all a blur after that.

Cori

On Mar 21, 10:30 pm, "Cori" <cmashieldscapt...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> What I'm asking is
> 1. Is there a difference in quality when the Zenith saves me several
> steps in converting material direct to digital?
> 2. Is there any generational loss if I make a DVD from another DVD,
> since one is a copy but they're both digital?
>
> Thanks for any abilities to explain this in terms understandable to my
> mind.
>
> Cori

On Mar 22, 1:30 pm, "Cori" <cmashieldscapt...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Okay, I bought me a Zenith VCR-DVDcombo which burns DVDs and records
> on VHShttp://www.zenith.com/sub_prod/product_Display.asp?cat=&id=1046
> and I bought me a Canopus ADVC 110 converter which will convert from
> VHS tape or from camcorder tape toDVD. http://www.canopus.com/products/ADVC110/index.php
>
> Now, suppose I borrow home movies from a friend to transfer toDVD.
> Once IburntheDVDon my Zenith from their tape, is it "as digital as
> it's going to get," and that's it? Can I just make myself a copy with
> aDVDburner on my own Mac, and have the footage in as good a quality
> as there is? Or do I have to run all the material directly onto hard
> drive through the converter to have really good quality? What I'm
> asking is
> 1. Is there a difference in quality when the Zenith saves me several
> steps in converting material direct to digital?
> 2. Is there any generational loss if I make aDVDfrom anotherDVD,
> since one is a copy but they're both digital?
>
> Thanks for any abilities to explain this in terms understandable to my
> mind.
>
> Cori

I use the shareware DVD Slideshow Builder which is very popular now,
many friends and I like it very much. It's very easy to create a
customized DVD with photos and videos, and we can add music,
transitions, and motion effects and make beautiful DVD menus. Also, we
can create .mp4, .wmv, .avi, .3gp slideshows for our iPod, Zune and
3GP Cell Phones, Youtube .etc.

There is a free download link
http://www.photo-to-dvd.com/dvd-slid...lder.php?sid=8
A specific tutorial which guides you use it step by step is here
http://www.photo-to-dvd.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2170

Hope this helps!

In article <. com>,
Cori <> wrote:
>Okay, I bought me a Zenith VCR-DVD combo which burns DVDs and records
>on VHS http://www.zenith.com/sub_prod/produ...p?cat=&id=1046
>and I bought me a Canopus ADVC 110 converter which will convert from
>VHS tape or from camcorder tape to DVD. http://www.canopus.com/products/ADVC110/index.php
>
>Now, suppose I borrow home movies from a friend to transfer to DVD.
>Once I burn the DVD on my Zenith from their tape, is it "as digital as
>it's going to get," and that's it? Can I just make myself a copy with
>a DVD burner on my own Mac, and have the footage in as good a quality
>as there is? Or do I have to run all the material directly onto hard
>drive through the converter to have really good quality? What I'm
>asking is
>1. Is there a difference in quality when the Zenith saves me several
>steps in converting material direct to digital?
>2. Is there any generational loss if I make a DVD from another DVD,
>since one is a copy but they're both digital?
>
>Thanks for any abilities to explain this in terms understandable to my
>mind.
>
>Cori

YOu really need to use the ADVC to get the best quality.

I have the 300 model. Canopus built their own video chip for those
systems and their line goes up and up in price. They go from
consuer to pro.

They were so good that Thomson/Grass-Valley bought them over a year
ago to add to their low-end end.

Impressive equipment. Not sure about the 100 but the 300 had
a built in TBC and 3D noise correction that was able to correct
from pretty bad errors on tapes.

Bill


--
Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com

"Cori" <> wrote in message
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> Okay, I bought me a Zenith VCR-DVD combo which burns DVDs and records
> on VHS http://www.zenith.com/sub_prod/produ...p?cat=&id=1046
> and I bought me a Canopus ADVC 110 converter which will convert from
> VHS tape or from camcorder tape to DVD.
> http://www.canopus.com/products/ADVC110/index.php
>
> Now, suppose I borrow home movies from a friend to transfer to DVD.
> Once I burn the DVD on my Zenith from their tape, is it "as digital as
> it's going to get," and that's it? Can I just make myself a copy with
> a DVD burner on my own Mac, and have the footage in as good a quality
> as there is? Or do I have to run all the material directly onto hard
> drive through the converter to have really good quality? What I'm
> asking is
> 1. Is there a difference in quality when the Zenith saves me several
> steps in converting material direct to digital?
> 2. Is there any generational loss if I make a DVD from another DVD,
> since one is a copy but they're both digital?
>
> Thanks for any abilities to explain this in terms understandable to my
> mind.
>
> Cori
>


I'm sure there are some 'audiophile' types who are able to tell the
difference between a factory pressed DVD and a copy burned on a recordable
disc.

"Mark W" <s@o> wrote in message
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>
> "Cori" <> wrote in message
> news: ups.com...
>> Okay, I bought me a Zenith VCR-DVD combo which burns DVDs and records
>> on VHS http://www.zenith.com/sub_prod/produ...p?cat=&id=1046
>> and I bought me a Canopus ADVC 110 converter which will convert from
>> VHS tape or from camcorder tape to DVD.
>> http://www.canopus.com/products/ADVC110/index.php
>>
>> Now, suppose I borrow home movies from a friend to transfer to DVD.
>> Once I burn the DVD on my Zenith from their tape, is it "as digital as
>> it's going to get," and that's it? Can I just make myself a copy with
>> a DVD burner on my own Mac, and have the footage in as good a quality
>> as there is? Or do I have to run all the material directly onto hard
>> drive through the converter to have really good quality? What I'm
>> asking is
>> 1. Is there a difference in quality when the Zenith saves me several
>> steps in converting material direct to digital?
>> 2. Is there any generational loss if I make a DVD from another DVD,
>> since one is a copy but they're both digital?
>>
>> Thanks for any abilities to explain this in terms understandable to my
>> mind.
>>
>> Cori
>>
>
>
> I'm sure there are some 'audiophile' types who are able to tell the
> difference between a factory pressed DVD and a copy burned on a recordable
> disc.
>
>

The reality in the digital domain is you don't make 'a copy' you simply
replicate the original. So if I make a 'copy' of a CD audio disc it is not
going to suffer any audio quality in the same sense as making a copy of a
copy of a copy of a tape in the analog domain. You can get accumulated
digital artefacts - I mention that before the pedants chime in - but these
are not common unless you are using crappy gear and crappy discs.

In article <>,
MassiveProng <> wrote:

> I guess you are the consuer version.
>
> WRONG GROUP, dipshit.
>
> When you respond to this CRAP at least trim alt.video.dvd out of it.
>
> Hell, you are too stupid to trim your quotes as well, how could I
> expect you to keep the horseshit in the right groups.

Go **** yourself you ****!

On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 09:59:05 GMT, Stuart <stuart€@whodunnit8.com> wrote:



>"Mark W" <s@o> wrote in message
>news:46024bb7$...
>>
>> I'm sure there are some 'audiophile' types who are able to tell the
>> difference between a factory pressed DVD and a copy burned on a recordable
>> disc.

>The reality in the digital domain is you don't make 'a copy' you simply
>replicate the original. So if I make a 'copy' of a CD audio disc it is not
>going to suffer any audio quality in the same sense as making a copy of a
>copy of a copy of a tape in the analog domain. You can get accumulated
>digital artefacts - I mention that before the pedants chime in - but these
>are not common unless you are using crappy gear and crappy discs.


You can't make a bit copy of a DVD that has been encrypted. It will not
play. To copy a DVD, it must be remastered. To make matters worse, although
copies can be made with bit-identical copies of the video files, most copies
are made with the data compressed further in order to fit on a single layer
blank.

On 3/21/2007, Cori posted this:
> Okay, I bought me a Zenith VCR-DVD combo which burns DVDs and records
> on VHS http://www.zenith.com/sub_prod/produ...p?cat=&id=1046
> and I bought me a Canopus ADVC 110 converter which will convert from
> VHS tape or from camcorder tape to DVD.
> http://www.canopus.com/products/ADVC110/index.php
>
> Now, suppose I borrow home movies from a friend to transfer to DVD.
> Once I burn the DVD on my Zenith from their tape, is it "as digital as
> it's going to get," and that's it? Can I just make myself a copy with
> a DVD burner on my own Mac, and have the footage in as good a quality
> as there is? Or do I have to run all the material directly onto hard
> drive through the converter to have really good quality? What I'm
> asking is
> 1. Is there a difference in quality when the Zenith saves me several
> steps in converting material direct to digital?
> 2. Is there any generational loss if I make a DVD from another DVD,
> since one is a copy but they're both digital?
>
> Thanks for any abilities to explain this in terms understandable to my
> mind.
>
> Cori

Well, I long ago vowed never to answer your posts, but I'll break my
rule today.

If you play a DVD, the digital data gets converted to analog. If you
pass the resulting analog output through the ADVC100 to get it into
your computer, it gets redigitized. These are two lossy steps. I
reiterate in different words: you will *lose* quality (twice) in doing
that.

If you copy the files from the DVD into your computer using your
computer's DVD drive, the DVD's digital data is copied bit-for-bit into
the computer. No losses (no changes at all) in information.

You could, of course, capture the video directly from the camcorder by
FireWire, using the FireWire output of the camcorder and the FireWire
input of your computer. Of course, this can't be done if it's an
analog-only camcorder. However, in the case of the analog camcorder you
still could digitize the analog output directly into your computer by
using the ADVC. Both of these methods get your data into the computer
with minimum loss, which reading the DVD directly would also
accomplish.

These two methods are almost equivalent. However, the two devices
(ADVC, DVD recorder) will have different qualities of digitization. Try
them and see what you like best.

Still, nothing beats copying the data from a digital camcorder by
FireWire, of course, since that is a bit-by-bit transfer.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Gino)
letters617blochg3251
(replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom")

On Mar 22, 11:38 am, Gene E. Bloch <spamf...@nobody.invalid> wrote:

> These two methods are almost equivalent. However, the two devices
> (ADVC, DVD recorder) will have different qualities of digitization. Try
> them and see what you like best.

Bob, THANKS for the information! It wasn't what I asked, but as it
happens I do want to incorporate still images into some of my DVDs.

Bill, someone else told me the Canopus would be higher quality and
certainly on any footage I plan to edit, it has to get into the
computer somehow. It's just that the Canopus seemed like an extra
step if I have already transferred the same footage to digital via the
Zenith. If the Canopus really is better, though, I shouldn't take
chances on quality even despite the extra trouble.

Gene, thanks for sharing your genius.

Cori