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Old 02-15-2004, 01:23 AM   #1
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what say yee on bootcamps?


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Old 02-15-2004, 02:54 AM   #2
 
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waste of money


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Old 02-15-2004, 06:34 AM   #3
 
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totally

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>waste of money
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Old 02-15-2004, 07:34 AM   #4
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>>waste of money
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agreed. you are paying unemployed IT guys a ridiculous amount of money to
read to you from a book for you. don't be a boob.

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Things I learnt in the army:
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When they say, "We are going to ambush the enemy".
It really means, "We are heavily outnumbered and no one wants to help us."
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Old 02-15-2004, 11:45 AM   #5
Marlin Munrowe
 
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On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 17:23:34 -0800, "rcsnydley"
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>what say yee on bootcamps?


I have friends and colleagues who have attended

Wave technologies UK
==================

Windows 2000 Core
++++++++++++++++
Excellent - great mentoring, good in-depth coverage of course
materials along with checking of comprehension. There's value in this
course. Recommended! Until one of my muys had an apalling experience
on the 2003 core I'd have recommended them but not any more.


Windows 2003 Core
++++++++++++++++
Dont waste your money, a *complete* waste of time in my view

I can confirm this for a "2003 core" course run recently:

For one of their courses the training material didnt cover the topics
required by the exams.

The trainers didnt even know the number of questions or the durations
on each exam on one of the courses they ran.

Their pass rate was 0 delegates passed 6 exams 1 delegate passed 4
exams and 1 passed 3 and 4 delegates passed less than 3 exams.

++++++++++++++++++++
+ Pass rate below 50% +
++++++++++++++++++++

Mentoring was poor to non-existent.

Training Camp UK
==============
http://www.trainingcamp.co.uk/uk/mcse2003.asp

Good early reputation, achieves results through the use of 14 straight
days 9 til 9 and Accelerated Learning Techniques. Good training, good
check of comprehension. Several people at my company have used these
folks with very good results.

The same cost almost to the penny as Wave, but strangely include the
cost of accomodation where as Wave dont (so work out a little cheaper)



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Old 02-19-2004, 10:37 PM   #6
 
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don't listen to these clowns they wish they could afford
to do it
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>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>waste of money
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>agreed. you are paying unemployed IT guys a ridiculous

amount of money to
>read to you from a book for you. don't be a boob.
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>--
>Rowdy Yates
>Things I learnt in the army:
>-------------------------------
>Rule #1 -
>When they say, "We are going to ambush the enemy".
>It really means, "We are heavily outnumbered and no one

wants to help us."
>-------------------------------
>I am Against-TCPA
>http://www.againsttcpa.com
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Old 02-19-2004, 11:36 PM   #7
JaR
 
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opined, On 2/19/04 2:37 PM:

> don't listen to these clowns they wish they could afford
> to do it
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Which one do you work for?

JaR
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Old 02-20-2004, 09:13 PM   #8
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>agreed. you are paying unemployed IT guys a ridiculous amount of money to
>read to you from a book for you.


Do these books have any pretty pictures?

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3


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