Re: OT: Unemployment

almost every modern nation has an unemployement and or welfare system
that is a very attractive (and in most cases better) standard of living
than what the people who immigrate to take advantage of that system are
accustomed to. up here in canada most of the immigrants are from 3rd
world or war torn nations.

the way i look at it. yeah, it's my tax dollars that's enabling them to
live without contributing much to the society (i.e. waking up @ 6am to go
to work, like me!). but, i am not very active with charities and so on.
they don't have very marketable skills to begin with. and i would rather
they be here living off my tax dollars than back in the country they came
from where god knows what forms of hardships, pain and suffering they and
their children might have to endure. if the money didn't go to them, the
money would most probably go to building a new ski lodge for one of the
ministers in parliament.

as far as the actual system goes. i never collected welfare, so i can't
comment. i collected Unemployement Insurance once many years ago. the
process is fairly effortless but it's not very much. definatly not enough
to support rent, mortgage, wife, kids. i remember i actually sat down and
calculated how much it was compared to my previous job. (i had a lot of
time on my hands!). it came to a little over 55%. it lasts for about a
year. not an advisable way to make money in my opinon. the longer you are
out of the work force, the harder it is to get back in.

just get a job, meet some new people and get on with life..


"=?Utf-8?B?TWFya28=?=" <> wrote in
news:90B49CDE-2DA8-49F8-AEEE-:

> Just wondering if anybody would care to tell me how unemployment
> works in their country? Basic rules. I'm curious, because I have been
> told that Australia has quite an attractive social welfare system.
> People immigrate here to get benefits.
>
> Over here, you receive about AU$300 (about US$240) per fortnight
> if you are an unemployed single. This amount is pretty much
> doubled if your spouse is also unemployed. What makes it variable
> is that you can also claim rent assistance if you are not living in
your
> own home. Curiously, you can rent your home out at the same time.
> Benefits are means tested, but you would have to be quite wealthy
> not to qualify (some millionaire farmers, rich in assetts but cash
> poor, get benefits). The Government does not expect you to sell
> your home before being eligible for benefits but does expect you
> to spend any savings you have. If you have children, you qualify
> for even more money. So much so that at around 3-4 children,
> you will likely get more benefits in real terms than working a
> non-professional, full time job. Six or more children can be the
> same as a professional income.
>
> Most put in a form every two weeks. You have to show that you
> are actively engaged in looking for work, or training for new skills.
> We do have chronic unemployed, who measure their welfare time
> in decades.
>
> I would be interested to find out what welfare is like for Americans,
> those in Europe and the UK.
>
> It is my understanding that there is no such things as unemployment
> benefits in India, most of Asia and some other well developed
> countries, even if you have been working and find yourself
> unemployed after loyal service.
>



--
Rowdy Yates
Things I learnt in the army:
-------------------------------
Rule #1 -
When they say, "We are going to ambush the enemy".
It really means, "We are heavily outnumbered and no one wants to help
us."
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Rowdy Yates

Unemployed - Netherlands:

Duration of payment is according to the number of years
you've been employed. Every year is about 2 months of
payment (approx.). Each month you get about 70% of your
last earned salary.

We also had a system, that when this payment is over, you
get 70% of the minimum salary (which could last for 2
years). But as i said, that's over: we need to go to
welfare support directly. Thanks to our prime minister
Balkenende. Thanks mate! NOT



>-----Original Message-----
>almost every modern nation has an unemployement and or
welfare system
>that is a very attractive (and in most cases better)
standard of living
>than what the people who immigrate to take advantage of
that system are
>accustomed to. up here in canada most of the immigrants
are from 3rd
>world or war torn nations.
>
>the way i look at it. yeah, it's my tax dollars that's
enabling them to
>live without contributing much to the society (i.e.
waking up @ 6am to go
>to work, like me!). but, i am not very active with
charities and so on.
>they don't have very marketable skills to begin with. and
i would rather
>they be here living off my tax dollars than back in the
country they came
>from where god knows what forms of hardships, pain and
suffering they and
>their children might have to endure. if the money didn't
go to them, the
>money would most probably go to building a new ski lodge
for one of the
>ministers in parliament.
>
>as far as the actual system goes. i never collected
welfare, so i can't
>comment. i collected Unemployement Insurance once many
years ago. the
>process is fairly effortless but it's not very much.
definatly not enough
>to support rent, mortgage, wife, kids. i remember i
actually sat down and
>calculated how much it was compared to my previous job.
(i had a lot of
>time on my hands!). it came to a little over 55%. it
lasts for about a
>year. not an advisable way to make money in my opinon.
the longer you are
>out of the work force, the harder it is to get back in.
>
>just get a job, meet some new people and get on with
life..
>
>
>"=?Utf-8?B?TWFya28=?="
<> wrote in
>news:90B49CDE-2DA8-49F8-AEEE-:
>
>> Just wondering if anybody would care to tell me how
unemployment
>> works in their country? Basic rules. I'm curious,
because I have been
>> told that Australia has quite an attractive social
welfare system.
>> People immigrate here to get benefits.
>>
>> Over here, you receive about AU$300 (about US$240) per
fortnight
>> if you are an unemployed single. This amount is pretty
much
>> doubled if your spouse is also unemployed. What makes
it variable
>> is that you can also claim rent assistance if you are
not living in
>your
>> own home. Curiously, you can rent your home out at the
same time.
>> Benefits are means tested, but you would have to be
quite wealthy
>> not to qualify (some millionaire farmers, rich in
assetts but cash
>> poor, get benefits). The Government does not expect
you to sell
>> your home before being eligible for benefits but does
expect you
>> to spend any savings you have. If you have children,
you qualify
>> for even more money. So much so that at around 3-4
children,
>> you will likely get more benefits in real terms than
working a
>> non-professional, full time job. Six or more children
can be the
>> same as a professional income.
>>
>> Most put in a form every two weeks. You have to show
that you
>> are actively engaged in looking for work, or training
for new skills.
>> We do have chronic unemployed, who measure their
welfare time
>> in decades.
>>
>> I would be interested to find out what welfare is like
for Americans,
>> those in Europe and the UK.
>>
>> It is my understanding that there is no such things as
unemployment
>> benefits in India, most of Asia and some other well
developed
>> countries, even if you have been working and find
yourself
>> unemployed after loyal service.
>>
>
>
>
>--
>Rowdy Yates
>Things I learnt in the army:
>-------------------------------
>Rule #1 -
>When they say, "We are going to ambush the enemy".
>It really means, "We are heavily outnumbered and no one
wants to help
>us."
>-------------------------------
>I am Against-TCPA
>http://www.againsttcpa.com
>.
>

Dutch Cheese