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Old 02-12-2004, 10:34 PM   #1
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Hi Everyone,

We got notice that our IP address is being used to run a namespace miner
against Microsoft. I have checked for viruses, trojans, checked all of the
ISA server logs, and even checked for open proxies from within, and from
outside our network. I can find nothing showing that says we are doing
anything like this.

I was wondering if anyone else had this happen to you, and what to check
next.

My last idea is that someone outside our ISP is hijacking our IP address,
and that it is nothing we can prevent, but I don't know how to prove that
explicitely.

Thanks heaps





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Old 02-12-2004, 10:39 PM   #2
kpg
 
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Do you know for certain that this is the case? Who says and what
proof do they have?

"Kendal Emery" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Hi Everyone,
>
> We got notice that our IP address is being used to run a namespace miner
> against Microsoft. I have checked for viruses, trojans, checked all of

the
> ISA server logs, and even checked for open proxies from within, and from
> outside our network. I can find nothing showing that says we are doing
> anything like this.
>
> I was wondering if anyone else had this happen to you, and what to check
> next.
>
> My last idea is that someone outside our ISP is hijacking our IP address,
> and that it is nothing we can prevent, but I don't know how to prove that
> explicitely.
>
> Thanks heaps
>
>
>





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Old 02-12-2004, 11:02 PM   #3
Rowdy Yates
 
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"Kendal Emery" <> wrote in
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>
> My last idea is that someone outside our ISP is hijacking our IP
> address, and that it is nothing we can prevent, but I don't know how
> to prove that explicitely.
>


wow. highjacking tcp/ip sessions. that's a tall claim. are you sure they
aren't just spoofing using your subnet range?


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Old 02-12-2004, 11:59 PM   #4
Kendal Emery
 
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Here is all the proof they give
{Quote
Our system detected a namespace mining operation coming from that IP.

Here is the information we have showing the time of abuse by that IP (all
times are PST):

Process data between 2004-01-29 10:03:46 and 2004-01-30 10:05:46
classification: namespace miner total nRcpt:19979 total nRcptSuccess:0 total
nData:0

ENDQUOTE}

"kpg" <> wrote in message
news:#...
> Do you know for certain that this is the case? Who says and what
> proof do they have?
>
> "Kendal Emery" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > We got notice that our IP address is being used to run a namespace miner
> > against Microsoft. I have checked for viruses, trojans, checked all of

> the
> > ISA server logs, and even checked for open proxies from within, and from
> > outside our network. I can find nothing showing that says we are doing
> > anything like this.
> >
> > I was wondering if anyone else had this happen to you, and what to check
> > next.
> >
> > My last idea is that someone outside our ISP is hijacking our IP

address,
> > and that it is nothing we can prevent, but I don't know how to prove

that
> > explicitely.
> >
> > Thanks heaps
> >
> >
> >

>
>





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Old 02-13-2004, 12:00 AM   #5
Kendal Emery
 
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Spoof, hi-jack, it's all the same to me, they are using my address. btw,
this is a dynamically assigned, static address, if you know what that means.
It just seems very unlikely that it is coming from inside our organization.

"Rowdy Yates" <> wrote in message
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> "Kendal Emery" <> wrote in
> news::
>
> >
> > My last idea is that someone outside our ISP is hijacking our IP
> > address, and that it is nothing we can prevent, but I don't know how
> > to prove that explicitely.
> >

>
> wow. highjacking tcp/ip sessions. that's a tall claim. are you sure they
> aren't just spoofing using your subnet range?
>
>
> --
> Rowdy Yates
> "Command prompt's make me horny!"
> I am Against-TCPA
> http://www.againsttcpa.com





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Old 02-13-2004, 12:19 AM   #6
Rowdy Yates
 
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"Kendal Emery" <> wrote in
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> Spoof, hi-jack, it's all the same to me, they are using my address.
> btw, this is a dynamically assigned, static address, if you know what
> that means. It just seems very unlikely that it is coming from inside
> our organization.


you are using DHCP to keep assigning the same ip address to the same MAC
address. no dynamic pool, right?

if you are concerened, you can setup a sniffer and capture the traffic.
there is a bit of work involved.




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Old 02-13-2004, 12:56 AM   #7
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----- Kendal Emery wrote: ----

Hi Everyone

We got notice that our IP address is being used to run a namespace mine
against Microsoft.

You could try dropping to a DOS box and typing netstat

At the very least, it will show all active connections and on what ports

My guess is that you will likely determine it isn't you that is at fault.


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Old 02-13-2004, 01:09 AM   #8
Bilal
 
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You're lucky it's your IP that's being Hijacked and not
your plane
Bilal
>-----Original Message-----
>"Kendal Emery" <> wrote

in
>news::
>
>>
>> My last idea is that someone outside our ISP is

hijacking our IP
>> address, and that it is nothing we can prevent, but I

don't know how
>> to prove that explicitely.
>>

>
>wow. highjacking tcp/ip sessions. that's a tall claim.

are you sure they
>aren't just spoofing using your subnet range?
>
>
>--
>Rowdy Yates
>"Command prompt's make me horny!"
>I am Against-TCPA
>http://www.againsttcpa.com
>.
>



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Old 02-13-2004, 02:22 AM   #9
Ken Briscoe
 
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> You're lucky it's your IP that's being Hijacked and not
> your plane


Yes, she is lucky, but that's a sick fscking joke.

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Old 02-13-2004, 03:19 PM   #10
Kendal Emery
 
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It made me laugh.....

"Ken Briscoe" <> wrote in message
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> > You're lucky it's your IP that's being Hijacked and not
> > your plane

>
> Yes, she is lucky, but that's a sick fscking joke.
>
> --
>
> KB - MCNGP "silent thug" #26
>
> first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com
>
>
> ---
> Virus? In the computer? Are you serious?
> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> Version: 6.0.580 / Virus Database: 367 - Release Date: 2/6/2004
>
>





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