Michael:
You are right that many in the MCNGP / CertGuard group are very childish,
rude beyond belief, and in most cases [90% of the time] not very helpful.
Their insulting of people for no reason who are trying to help people is
truly beyond my comprehension, especially since these are people who are
supposedly knowledgeable enough on computers to know that UseNet exists (Not
everyone does) and hence have some intelligence.
So why did you join them?
I think their group's goals of stamping out proxy-testers and braindumps is
very laudable, but their actions are just like the outgoing Clinton officials
glueing of the "W" keys on government computers - it doesn't show any
intelligence, it just shows how childish they are and destroys what
credibility they did have. This is a PUBLIC forum - their actions may be fine
in their fraternity houses on their college campuses, but not in the real
world.
Their response to you in not acknowledging that this is a problem (but just
criticizing you further) is another sign that they are ignorant and do not
understand or care. Until they change, I will not be joining that group,
which is a shame, since I too agree with cleaning up the certification mess.
Even the criticism of you putting your "MCP" in your signature is a sign
that some in the group's leadership deep down don't care about increasing the
values of all certifications. They just want to justify their psychological
need of putting people down and somehow believe that this is a good method of
doing so.
I would like to know why you gave them credibility for their actions by
joining their group.
--
Larry J. West, MCSD, MCPD, MCTS:SQL Server 2005, MOUS, FLMI, ACS
"Michael D. Alligood" wrote:
> > There are no "regulars" here whose job it is to help you.
> > Not one person here has any responsibility or
> > obligation to solve your problem for you.
>
> You are correct. However, this is a Microsoft public newsgroup for MCSEs
> and MCSE related questions. Microsoft created it to allow individuals to
> share information and help others; not belittle them, cuss at them, or
> anything else negative the MCNGP does. Your group has set up camp in
> these newsgroups and actually dedicate time in insulting people. Don't
> you have a forum back in your MCNGP clubhouse? Why can you not use that?
> If the "stupid" questions bother you by individuals, then simply do not
> respond. Why waste the bandwidth? Why waste your time? Why do you feel
> the need to crush 9/10ths of the individuals that post here. Think of
> all the other things you could be doing with your personal and
> professional time, if you just kept your insults, belittlements, and non
> helpful advice to yourselves?
>
> > You
> > know when you see a homeless guy on the street asking for some change?
> > Sometimes you give him a buck, sometimes you say "Sorry, not today". That's
> > how usenet works, dude.
>
> I am sorry, that is NOT what this usenet was designed for. I am sure the
> responses to this will be the same. The MCNGP members that religiously
> post here and in other newsgroups will unite and totally go off on me
> for showing the slightest bit of compassion for trying to give something
> back to my community; the I.T. community. So, whatever. I may not be
> able to give that homeless man you speak of money every time I see him,
> but I do not spit in his face for asking either...
>
> The MCNGP motto, "Building a better world of all of I.T." Exactly how
> are you guys doing that? By "demonstrating posting skills both defensive
> and offensively?" By "using and misuse, when appropriate, of the English
> language?" By "using newsgroup flaming techniques?" By "belittling those
> whose skill set is far beneath their own, in a tactful and professional
> manner?" Please explain how this is building a better world for all of
> I.T.?
>
> --
> Michael D. Alligood
> MCSA, MCDST, MCP, A+,
> Network+, i-Net+, CIW Assoc.,
> CIW Certified Instructor
>
> http://yetanotherblog.typepad.com/theclassroom
>
>
>
> "Briscobar" <> wrote in message
> news:#:
>
> > "Aries0999" <> wrote in message
> > news:F6ADA0A4-816F-4413-A81B-...
> > >I have survived in the business for 16 years and I do have a sense of humor
> > > when and where it's appropriate. Out of 10 responses only one was helpful.
> >
> > So you got a helpful response, and you're still complaining about it? How
> > many solutions to your problem do you want? Jeez.
> >
> > > How would feel if you were me. Thank you for calling me a whiner !!!!!
> >
> > There are no "regulars" here whose job it is to help you. Not one person
> > here has any responsibility or obligation to solve your problem for you. You
> > know when you see a homeless guy on the street asking for some change?
> > Sometimes you give him a buck, sometimes you say "Sorry, not today". That's
> > how usenet works, dude. You got 9 "Sorry, not todays", but that one good
> > response? Just make sure you don't buy booze with it.
> >
> > KB
>
>
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