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Coffee Lover Girl
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      10-27-2006
I use Mailwasher 2.0 - the free version. I don't think it can do what I'm
looking for, but I'm looking for something free that might be able to.

I own a domain of my own. I LIKE the idea of being able to use any email
address that I can make up using the Pegasus Mail ID features, but I don't
like the fact that people can spam wild cards at my domain name, for
example http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/(E-Mail Removed).

So is there a way to filter and bounce ( like Mailwasher bounces )
everything EXCEPT the names I'm using for my domain? Like having a table
of good names, that I can keep and modify, and it will bounce everything
BUT those?



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Evan Platt
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      10-27-2006
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 21:58:08 -0500, Coffee Lover Girl
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>I use Mailwasher 2.0 - the free version. I don't think it can do what I'm
>looking for, but I'm looking for something free that might be able to.
>
>I own a domain of my own. I LIKE the idea of being able to use any email
>address that I can make up using the Pegasus Mail ID features, but I don't
>like the fact that people can spam wild cards at my domain name, for
>example (E-Mail Removed).


Take that up with whoever hosts your e-mail.

>So is there a way to filter and bounce ( like Mailwasher bounces )
>everything EXCEPT the names I'm using for my domain? Like having a table
>of good names, that I can keep and modify, and it will bounce everything
>BUT those?


Bouncing is a BAD idea. It creates backscatter, among other things.
 
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty
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      10-27-2006
Coffee Lover Girl wrote:

> I own a domain of my own. I LIKE the idea of being able to use any
> email address that I can make up using the Pegasus Mail ID features,
> but I don't like the fact that people can spam wild cards at my
> domain name, for example (E-Mail Removed).


Please don't use someone else's real domain name as your example. In
fact, use "example.com" which is reserved for the purpose. mydomain.com
is a real web site.

> So is there a way to filter and bounce ( like Mailwasher bounces )
> everything EXCEPT the names I'm using for my domain? Like having a table
> of good names, that I can keep and modify, and it will bounce everything
> BUT those?


Log into your host's control panel and turn OFF the "catch-all" address.
Set it to :blackhole: rather than bounce, as all bounce will do is
seriously annoy all the real people whose addresses the spammers have
used in the forged FROM: field, and create a duplicate amount of spam.

If you don't know how to do that with the catch-all, ask your host.

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Coffee Lover Girl
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      10-27-2006
Evan Platt <evan@*******************************> wrote :

> On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 21:58:08 -0500, Coffee Lover Girl
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>I use Mailwasher 2.0 - the free version. I don't think it can do what
>>I'm looking for, but I'm looking for something free that might be
>>able to.
>>
>>I own a domain of my own. I LIKE the idea of being able to use any
>>email address that I can make up using the Pegasus Mail ID features,
>>but I don't like the fact that people can spam wild cards at my
>>domain name, for example (E-Mail Removed).

>
> Take that up with whoever hosts your e-mail.
>
>>So is there a way to filter and bounce ( like Mailwasher bounces )
>>everything EXCEPT the names I'm using for my domain? Like having a
>>table of good names, that I can keep and modify, and it will bounce
>>everything BUT those?

>
> Bouncing is a BAD idea. It creates backscatter, among other things.
>


It doesn't stop them from sending spam to that address?



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=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Brian_H=B9=A9?=
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      10-27-2006
Coffee Lover Girl wrote:
> I use Mailwasher 2.0 - the free version. I don't think it can do what I'm
> looking for, but I'm looking for something free that might be able to.
>
> I own a domain of my own. I LIKE the idea of being able to use any email
> address that I can make up using the Pegasus Mail ID features, but I don't
> like the fact that people can spam wild cards at my domain name, for
> example (E-Mail Removed).
>
> So is there a way to filter and bounce ( like Mailwasher bounces )
> everything EXCEPT the names I'm using for my domain? Like having a table
> of good names, that I can keep and modify, and it will bounce everything
> BUT those?
>
>
>


DON'T use bounce
And yes, mailwasher can do that, read the example filter that is found
under filters.
 
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      10-27-2006
Coffee Lover Girl wrote:

> Evan Platt <evan@*******************************> wrote :
>
>
>>On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 21:58:08 -0500, Coffee Lover Girl
>><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I use Mailwasher 2.0 - the free version. I don't think it can do what
>>>I'm looking for, but I'm looking for something free that might be
>>>able to.
>>>
>>>I own a domain of my own. I LIKE the idea of being able to use any
>>>email address that I can make up using the Pegasus Mail ID features,
>>>but I don't like the fact that people can spam wild cards at my
>>>domain name, for example (E-Mail Removed).

>>
>>Take that up with whoever hosts your e-mail.
>>
>>
>>>So is there a way to filter and bounce ( like Mailwasher bounces )
>>>everything EXCEPT the names I'm using for my domain? Like having a
>>>table of good names, that I can keep and modify, and it will bounce
>>>everything BUT those?

>>
>>Bouncing is a BAD idea. It creates backscatter, among other things.
>>

>
>
> It doesn't stop them from sending spam to that address?
>
>
>


But by bouncing they can see that the address they are using, although
invalid, is responding.
 
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Mike Easter
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      10-27-2006
Coffee Lover Girl wrote:
> Evan Platt
>> Coffee Lover Girl


>>> So is there a way to filter and bounce ( like Mailwasher bounces )
>>> everything EXCEPT the names I'm using for my domain? Like having a
>>> table of good names, that I can keep and modify, and it will bounce
>>> everything BUT those?

>>
>> Bouncing is a BAD idea. It creates backscatter, among other things.

>
> It doesn't stop them from sending spam to that address?


MW bouncing is a very abusive behavior almost always and doesn't stop
any 'normal' spam. The information provided by MW about its bogus
bounces is a lie and you should configure MW to not bounce.

Normal spam has a bogus From. When MW bounces, it creates a newmail
addressed to the bogus From, which is newmail is abusive and reportable
to such blocklisting services as spamcop.

When a spamcop reporter or spamtrap receives that abusive bogus bounce
because their address appeared in your spam's bogus From, the reporter
derives your IP address and reports your abusive bogusbounce to your
provider. Your provider is whose role addresses you are forging on your
abusive bogusbounces, and when your bounces are reported your email
account can be endangered for your abusive bogus bouncing activity.

The bogus bounces [almost] never go to the spamsource. Rarely a spam is
'straightup' and the From = the source, but very rarely.


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Vanguard
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      10-27-2006
"Coffee Lover Girl" wrote in message
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> Evan Platt wrote :
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>> Coffee Lover Girl wrote:

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>>>So is there a way to filter and bounce ( like Mailwasher bounces )
>>>everything EXCEPT the names I'm using for my domain? Like having a
>>>table of good names, that I can keep and modify, and it will bounce
>>>everything BUT those?

>>
>> Bouncing is a BAD idea. It creates backscatter, among other things.
>>

>
> It doesn't stop them from sending spam to that address?


Bogus bounces qualify as spam themselves and as such are reportable to
the DNS blacklists. Do you really want to get blacklisted so your
"good" outbound e-mails that you send get blocked?

Bogus bounces that are sent AFTER the actual mail session to delivery
the mail can be differentiated from real bounces sent DURING the mail
session between the sending and receiving mail server. You are
identifying a valid and active e-mail address/domain by sending the
bogus bounces.

Your e-mail provider doesn't provide for defining server-side rules
for your e-mail account(s)? You could then reject all e-mails at the
server that don't contain "@yourdomain" in the To/Cc headers (but
you'll still get them if they use Bcc).

Your bounces are rarely, if ever, hitting the spammers. Instead you
are sending them to invalid domains (which waste your mail servers
resources to find it is undeliverable), invalid accounts (so you are
wasting bother your and their mail servers resources), or hit a valid
account for someone other than the spammer (i.e., you are nuisancing
an innocent with your "bounce spam").

Flush the turds at your end. Stop hurling them back out to the Net.
The spammers are turd-proof but not everyone else who, unlike you, are
good e-mail Netizens.


 
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Evan Platt
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      10-27-2006
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 00:07:35 -0500, Coffee Lover Girl
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>It doesn't stop them from sending spam to that address?


No.

Half of the return addresses used in spam is forged.

Think of if someone forged your return address in spam, and your
mailbox started getting filled with bounces.
 
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Evan Platt
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      10-27-2006
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 09:06:11 GMT, Brian H
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>But by bouncing they can see that the address they are using, although
>invalid, is responding.


No. Spam rarely uses a valid reply address. I doubt a spammer ever
uses a valid reply address.
 
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