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300 gb hard drive showing 275 gbs after formatting...

DanR
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 09-23-2006
Oldus Fartus wrote:
> D.L. Man wrote:
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>> It says 300,082,855,936 bytes.
>>
>>

>
> Then you have 300 GB.

He has 300 billion bytes.

Meat Plow
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On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 07:39:21 -0600, D.L. Man Has Frothed:

>
> "Oldus Fartus" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:4514ae47\$0\$13638\$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> D.L. Man wrote:
>>
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>> > It says 300,082,855,936 bytes.
>> >
>> >
>> >

>> Then you have 300 GB.
>>
>>

> What is the equation that calculates that into GB using binary? I am down
> to less than 200 GB and I have only used 88 GB worth of space.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SI_prefix

http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=26

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Oldus Fartus
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D.L. Man wrote:
> "Oldus Fartus" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:4514ae47\$0\$13638\$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> D.L. Man wrote:
>>
>>> It says 300,082,855,936 bytes.
>>>
>>>

>> Then you have 300 GB.
>>

>
> What is the equation that calculates that into GB using binary? I am down to
> less than 200 GB and I have only used 88 GB worth of space.
>
>

Have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix

Using the legal and proper multipliers (base 10)
1 KB = 1,000 bytes
1 MB = 1,000,000 bytes
1 GB = 1,000,000,000 bytes

Because computers use binary, the multipliers were used incorrectly with
1 KB = 1,024 bytes
1 MB = 1,048,576 bytes
1 GB = 1,073,741,824 bytes.

As you can see, at smaller drive sizes the differences were not too
large, but as drive sizes increased, many people wrongly assumed they
were being ripped off. To try and fix the perceived problem in 1998
new standards were approved and ratified using binary multipliers, but
they are almost universally ignored. These were (just to mention the
first few):

kibi Ki
mebi Mi
gibi Gi

I don't believe the hard drive manufacturers are at fault - they are
selling (as in your case) a drive using the proper multipliers using
decimal notation. Your 300 GB drive is 300,082,855,936 bytes so is
correctly described. Your operating system reports it as both that and
279.5 GB and this is where the mistake is - the size is 279.5 *GiB*
(roughly), so if anyone is at fault it is the operating system programmers!

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Oldus Fartus
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 09-23-2006
DanR wrote:
> Oldus Fartus wrote:
>> D.L. Man wrote:
>>
>>> It says 300,082,855,936 bytes.
>>>
>>>

>> Then you have 300 GB.

>
> He has 300 billion bytes.
>
>

He sure does Dan, which is 300 gigabytes.

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D.L. Man
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"DanR" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Oldus Fartus wrote:
> > D.L. Man wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> It says 300,082,855,936 bytes.
> >>
> >>

> >
> > Then you have 300 GB.

>
> He has 300 billion bytes.
>
>

This is as confusing as the time I practice keyboarding on a German
keyboard.
I have 300 billion bytes but I don't have 300 gb like is advertised on the
box.
So 300,082,855,936 bytes = 279 GB. I can't believe that no one has fixed
this yet. 321,082,855,936 bytes would make it 300 GB. That is what I will be
looking for when I go back to microcenter.

D.L. Man
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 09-23-2006

"Oldus Fartus" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:451542af\$0\$13665\$(E-Mail Removed)...
> D.L. Man wrote:
> > "Oldus Fartus" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:4514ae47\$0\$13638\$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> D.L. Man wrote:
> >>
> >>> It says 300,082,855,936 bytes.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Then you have 300 GB.
> >>

> >
> > What is the equation that calculates that into GB using binary? I am

down to
> > less than 200 GB and I have only used 88 GB worth of space.
> >
> >

>
> Have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix
>
> Using the legal and proper multipliers (base 10)
> 1 KB = 1,000 bytes
> 1 MB = 1,000,000 bytes
> 1 GB = 1,000,000,000 bytes
>
> Because computers use binary, the multipliers were used incorrectly with
> 1 KB = 1,024 bytes
> 1 MB = 1,048,576 bytes
> 1 GB = 1,073,741,824 bytes.
>
> As you can see, at smaller drive sizes the differences were not too
> large, but as drive sizes increased, many people wrongly assumed they
> were being ripped off. To try and fix the perceived problem in 1998
> new standards were approved and ratified using binary multipliers, but
> they are almost universally ignored. These were (just to mention the
> first few):
>
> kibi Ki
> mebi Mi
> gibi Gi
>
> I don't believe the hard drive manufacturers are at fault - they are
> selling (as in your case) a drive using the proper multipliers using
> decimal notation. Your 300 GB drive is 300,082,855,936 bytes so is
> correctly described. Your operating system reports it as both that and
> 279.5 GB and this is where the mistake is - the size is 279.5 *GiB*
> (roughly), so if anyone is at fault it is the operating system

programmers!

Ok I think that I understand the problem and I will spread the word and most
likely have the same reaction to me that I had with you very helpful guys.
Thanks.
I am on to other smaller fish to fry right now, my DVD burner won't burn a
video for me. I will post a new message regarding it though.

Oldus Fartus
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 09-23-2006
D.L. Man wrote:
> "DanR" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:gVaRg.14649\$(E-Mail Removed) m...
>> Oldus Fartus wrote:
>>> D.L. Man wrote:
>>>
>>>> It says 300,082,855,936 bytes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Then you have 300 GB.

>> He has 300 billion bytes.
>>
>>

>
> This is as confusing as the time I practice keyboarding on a German
> keyboard.
> I have 300 billion bytes but I don't have 300 gb like is advertised on the
> box.
> So 300,082,855,936 bytes = 279 GB. I can't believe that no one has fixed
> this yet. 321,082,855,936 bytes would make it 300 GB. That is what I will be
> looking for when I go back to microcenter.
>
>

I don't think you are really understanding what is being said. 300
billion bytes is 300 GB which is 279 GiB (note the last GiB, not GB).

Yes though, if you want a 300 GiB drive then look for one advertised as
greater than 321 GB or around 321,000,000,000 bytes.

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DanR
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 09-23-2006
D.L. Man wrote:
> "DanR" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:gVaRg.14649\$(E-Mail Removed) m...
>> Oldus Fartus wrote:
>>> D.L. Man wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> It says 300,082,855,936 bytes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Then you have 300 GB.

>>
>> He has 300 billion bytes.
>>
>>

>
> This is as confusing as the time I practice keyboarding on a German
> keyboard.
> I have 300 billion bytes but I don't have 300 gb like is advertised
> on the box.
> So 300,082,855,936 bytes = 279 GB. I can't believe that no one has
> fixed this yet. 321,082,855,936 bytes would make it 300 GB. That is
> what I will be looking for when I go back to microcenter.

Pennywise@DerryMaine.Gov
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 09-23-2006
"D.L. Man" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I can't believe that no one has fixed
>this yet. 321,082,855,936 bytes would make it 300 GB

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/storage...629225834.html

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