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Asstroturfer Johansen wrote on behalf of micoshaft:

> I

I'm a man well below average intelligence. Despite of that, some Windiots
advocates on the internet convinced me, that paying for Clippy was superior,
despite GNU/Linux being easy, free and had all that Windopes had plus more.
"It wasn't easely installed, everyone couldn't do it."
How would I ever regret that!
First I had a lot of legacy hardware that I had no drivers unlike those
built into Linux. Linux now has the planets biggest supported hardware
list. Then windcrap took hours to install with constant reboots,
while many supported Linuxes like SuSE, RHat, Mandriva etc
took 30 minutes or so.
Hundreds here http://www.livecdlist.com

1) When I installed Windope, the Linux boot information was erased
in a monopolistic antitrust way.
Only by unfairly deleting Linux boot information from a PC
can micoshaft retain monopoly desktop control these days.
Devices wasn't*detected.*Nothing*worked*properly.
*I*couldn't*even*go into*X and then I remembered its windopes
and its not Linux and its not as good as Linux
***That*was*the*so-called*"easy"*installation.
Hours spent rebooting.

2) When I attempted to install the drivers, I found out windiot crap
***almost*doesn't*come*with*hardware*support! I have to go to the
manufacturer. Blimy! Some of them aren't around no more.
Linux doesn't have problems with that - there are always maintainers
and companies maintaining support 24/7 for such things like
SuSE, RHAT enterprise editions.
*I*had*to*install*"patches"*
in*the*kernel*source-code*to*get*simple*things*working which was
readily available, unlike micoshaft where I am left vulnerable for
days and weeks and months on end waiting each Patch Tuesday
to see if I got a fix despite paying.

4) Finally, when I had the most basic things set up, I would install some
***"packages",*but*only*to*find*out,*Linux*doesn't need reboots*
***unlike clueless*Windopes.*Not*only*that,*the*useablility*was*so*slow,*
***that*you*would*consider*using*a*typewriter*instead.

What convinses me, that I've made a fool out of myself, is that the same
"community" that "converted" me to begin with, acted with such arrogance,
when I polietly asked the microshaft "community" for help.
I was told to "read the ****ing EULA." And that was all "help" I would get
from the micoshfted "community." Yes, I was the proud village idiot owner
of a license (not software). Ask the windope advocates do what they do,
and I have my answer. They stiffen their willy and penetrate my PC for lack
of real-life values.

I see 7th-Witch is still flying around on the Linux broom.

In article <lWFOg.19738$> ,
says...
> First I had a lot of legacy hardware that I had no drivers unlike those
> built into Linux. Linux now has the planets biggest supported hardware
> list.

Yep, you get the largest base of Legacy drivers on the planet - now how
about those of us running the newest, non-legacy, hardware.

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Leythos wrote:

> In article <lWFOg.19738$> ,
> says...
>> First I had a lot of legacy hardware that I had no drivers unlike those
>> built into Linux. Linux now has the planets biggest supported hardware
>> list.
>
> Yep, you get the largest base of Legacy drivers on the planet - now how
> about those of us running the newest, non-legacy, hardware.
>
MickeyMouse Fanboys like you Leythos just continue to run Windoze I guess.
Obviously you're one of those people that likes to be on the bleeding edge
and hence run a 6 year old operating system.


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In article <EYHOg.541913$Mn5.13296@pd7tw3no>, says...
> Leythos wrote:
>
> > In article <lWFOg.19738$> ,
> > says...
> >> First I had a lot of legacy hardware that I had no drivers unlike those
> >> built into Linux. Linux now has the planets biggest supported hardware
> >> list.
> >
> > Yep, you get the largest base of Legacy drivers on the planet - now how
> > about those of us running the newest, non-legacy, hardware.
> >
> MickeyMouse Fanboys like you Leythos just continue to run Windoze I guess.
> Obviously you're one of those people that likes to be on the bleeding edge
> and hence run a 6 year old operating system.

I run FC5 and Windows, but I like Anawave Gravity better than Pan, and
it's not been ported to nix yet.

Windows is more than 6 years old, just like Fedora is, just like other
OS's - they tend to build the next OS on the previous OS (not each
other, from each vendor/team).

Like it or not, there are many large networks running Windows based
solutions without any problems.

Now, tell me again how unstable it is.

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In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Leythos
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wrote
on Sat, 16 Sep 2006 01:04:09 GMT
<d4IOg.123$>:
> In article <EYHOg.541913$Mn5.13296@pd7tw3no>, says...
>> Leythos wrote:
>>
>> > In article <lWFOg.19738$> ,
>> > says...
>> >> First I had a lot of legacy hardware that I had no drivers unlike those
>> >> built into Linux. Linux now has the planets biggest supported hardware
>> >> list.
>> >
>> > Yep, you get the largest base of Legacy drivers on the planet - now how
>> > about those of us running the newest, non-legacy, hardware.
>> >
>> MickeyMouse Fanboys like you Leythos just continue to run Windoze I guess.
>> Obviously you're one of those people that likes to be on the bleeding edge
>> and hence run a 6 year old operating system.
>
> I run FC5 and Windows, but I like Anawave Gravity better than Pan, and
> it's not been ported to nix yet.
>
> Windows is more than 6 years old,

The first edition of Windows came out in 1984. Admittedly, it didn't do
all that much back then.

> just like Fedora is, just like other
> OS's - they tend to build the next OS on the previous OS (not each
> other, from each vendor/team).
>
> Like it or not, there are many large networks running Windows based
> solutions without any problems.
>
> Now, tell me again how unstable it is.
>

Windows 2003 Server Edition is probably the most stable of the Windows
systems out there, on good hardware.

Certainly, it's the latest. (Apart from Windows Vista, which is a
release candidate now.)

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In article <i84st3->,
says...
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Leythos
> <>
> wrote
> on Sat, 16 Sep 2006 01:04:09 GMT
> <d4IOg.123$>:
> > In article <EYHOg.541913$Mn5.13296@pd7tw3no>, says...
> >> Leythos wrote:
> >>
> >> > In article <lWFOg.19738$> ,
> >> > says...
> >> >> First I had a lot of legacy hardware that I had no drivers unlike those
> >> >> built into Linux. Linux now has the planets biggest supported hardware
> >> >> list.
> >> >
> >> > Yep, you get the largest base of Legacy drivers on the planet - now how
> >> > about those of us running the newest, non-legacy, hardware.
> >> >
> >> MickeyMouse Fanboys like you Leythos just continue to run Windoze I guess.
> >> Obviously you're one of those people that likes to be on the bleeding edge
> >> and hence run a 6 year old operating system.
> >
> > I run FC5 and Windows, but I like Anawave Gravity better than Pan, and
> > it's not been ported to nix yet.
> >
> > Windows is more than 6 years old,
>
> The first edition of Windows came out in 1984. Admittedly, it didn't do
> all that much back then.
>
> > just like Fedora is, just like other
> > OS's - they tend to build the next OS on the previous OS (not each
> > other, from each vendor/team).
> >
> > Like it or not, there are many large networks running Windows based
> > solutions without any problems.
> >
> > Now, tell me again how unstable it is.
> >
>
> Windows 2003 Server Edition is probably the most stable of the Windows
> systems out there, on good hardware.
>
> Certainly, it's the latest. (Apart from Windows Vista, which is a
> release candidate now.)

I ran two NT 4 servers PDC/BDC that ran a process control system in a
mfg plant that were not rebooted for almost three years, and a SQL
server that was only taken down during that time for expanding the raid
array.

I've had the same or better experience with Windows 2000 and even
several AIX servers.

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Leythos wrote:

> In article <lWFOg.19738$> ,
> says...
>> First I had a lot of legacy hardware that I had no drivers unlike those
>> built into Linux. Linux now has the planets biggest supported hardware
>> list.
>
> Yep, you get the largest base of Legacy drivers on the planet - now how
> about those of us running the newest, non-legacy, hardware.

There are great companies offering 24/7 support for new hardware
and software like RHAT and SuSE. Then there are also companies
that make products like laser printers to video cards that offer them with
Linux drivers. Samsung Laser printer like ML-1610, 16ppm for 50 pounds
you get latest printer drivers for Linux. And NVidia you get
drivers about same time as competing operating systems.
Its no longer true that you don't have a choice when
it comes to purchasing supported hardware, or purchasing support.
The Linux purchasing experience is the same if not overal
better because of new manufacturer's support and better legacy support.

In article <8APOg.19860$> ,
says...
> The Linux purchasing experience is the same if not overal
> better because of new manufacturer's support and better legacy support.

I would almost agree, as I use Fedora and Windows, but there are times
when there are no drivers for nix while there have been for win for
months after a product comes out. Don't take me as one of those Win is
better than nix people, I love my nix boxes and was brought up on nix
and windows without a zealotry bias.

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Leythos wrote:

> In article <8APOg.19860$> ,
> says...
>> The Linux purchasing experience is the same if not overal
>> better because of new manufacturer's support and better legacy support.
>
> I would almost agree, as I use Fedora and Windows, but there are times
> when there are no drivers for nix while there have been for win for
> months after a product comes out. Don't take me as one of those Win is
> better than nix people, I love my nix boxes and was brought up on nix
> and windows without a zealotry bias.


I make my purchasing decisions based on Linux supporting companies NOW.
Companies like Samsung are on my list because of their support
for laser printers. NOW is where it matters. NOW is SuSE, RHAT, Mandriva,
Linspire, Xandros etc where I can purchase supported Linux distributions.
Tomorrow is something distant. I'm unlikely to switch to a rivals
if they are known to me today as not supplying what I want NOW.