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"Davor Dzorlev" <> wrote in message news:...
> I hope your breath don't stinks so much like your stupid comments. It is
not
> my intention to make any point, but to initialize different opinions.
Unlike
> some others I don't just standing blindly behind my believes, but like any
> normal person I am in constant learning process, so I am accepting better
> ideas and suggestions than my current knowledge (if they are confirmed by
> facts or by more experienced, but I don't accept something in form of
> someone shitting). If you want people to believe in your words, you should
> rephrase them and make the whole this bullshit of yours more pleasent to
> read.
>
> "Consultant" <> wrote in message
> news:%...
> > you miss the whole point. ther certifications were intended as some form
> of
> > proof that validates an individual with experience in the field being
> > tested. it was never meant as a piece of paper to get some noob's foot
in
> > the door as a tech. go whine somewhere else
> >
> >
> > "Davor Dzorlev" <> wrote in message
> > news:...
> > > I don't know what to say. Lucky you!
> > > You had an ideal conditions to certify. But for most cases today, it
is
> > very
> > > rare for someone to give you a job for an administrator without having
> > some
> > > certification. And how can you gain such experience without working?!
By
> > > practice in your home lab for several years or maintaining some school
> > > network several years for free? It goes like that story about the
> chicken
> > > and the egg. Anyway we are not arguing but discussing, and I
completely
> > > agree against cheating.
> > >
> > > "|{evin" <> wrote in message
> > > news:...
> > > > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 02:53:21 +0100, "Davor Dzorlev"
> > > > <> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Yes but that process in real life of miss things and find out about
> > them
> > > is
> > > > >also known as a gaining an experience. Obviously you have the rare
> gift
> > > to
> > > > >be born experienced and that's why you are so surprised on this
> > > phenomenon.
> > > >
> > > > Um, no. I was an admin for about 6 years and a developer for about 3
> > > > years before I decided to get my MCSE and MCSD.
> > > >
> > > > >I see, in case you stuck somewhere in your work I guess you won't
> post
> > > your
> > > > >sorrow here, but you will turn to your talent. And Yes the
> > certification
> > > is
> > > >
> > > > Google is my friend. I also have a network of experienced friends...
> > > > when one of us runs up against something that stumps us...
> > > > collaboration is only a phone call away.
> > > >
> > > > >"supposed to mean that you HAVE the experience", but in the real
life
> > it
> > > > >reflects that you have "enough knowledge" (not real experience) to
> take
> > > the
> > > > >certification (not all certifications, but most). And the main
> purpose
> > > (for
> > > > >IT professional) is to succeed in the career more easy. Otherwise,
> you
> > > won't
> > > >
> > > > Yep.
> > > >
> > > > >probably certificate just for your satisfaction, to confirm your
> > > experience,
> > > > >to impress your parents or girlfriend. Don't be so romantic. But
you
> > are
> > > > >right about not to 'fill in the gaps' with memorized answers, but
> with
> > > some
> > > > >real knowledge and practice.
> > > >
> > > > I'm not sure if we're agreeing or arguing here... my point was that
> > > > cheating to 'fill in the missing' experience is not acceptable.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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