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Old 11-13-2003, 03:36 PM   #1
Default General question about studying


Hello all! I've been in IT for 6 years and have been working with w2k
for the past year. I'm going for 70-215 shortly and have been
studying a bunch! (A Test King study guide, Microsoft's Training Kit,
etc.) I've also been looking at alot of cert websites. I was
wondering tho....it seems that "braindumps" are not looked to highly
upon. Is using them cheating?

Thanks,
Laura


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Old 11-13-2003, 03:56 PM   #2
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> upon. Is using them cheating?

Only if you think getting the answers ahead of time is cheating. It's open
to debate really.




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Old 11-13-2003, 04:08 PM   #3
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Here's our daily braindump conversation. Thanks, mcglinchey! Really. Thanks.

Gimme an A!
Gimme an S!
Gimme an S!
Gimme an F!
Gimme a U!

nevermind, I don't have the energy for this today.

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Old 11-13-2003, 04:14 PM   #4
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yes, it's cheating. do the right thing


"mcglinchey" <> wrote in message
news: om...
> Hello all! I've been in IT for 6 years and have been working with w2k
> for the past year. I'm going for 70-215 shortly and have been
> studying a bunch! (A Test King study guide, Microsoft's Training Kit,
> etc.) I've also been looking at alot of cert websites. I was
> wondering tho....it seems that "braindumps" are not looked to highly
> upon. Is using them cheating?
>
> Thanks,
> Laura





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Old 11-13-2003, 04:42 PM   #5
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"mcglinchey" <> wrote in message
news: om...
> Hello all! I've been in IT for 6 years and have been working with w2k
> for the past year. I'm going for 70-215 shortly and have been
> studying a bunch! (A Test King study guide, Microsoft's Training Kit,
> etc.) I've also been looking at alot of cert websites. I was
> wondering tho....it seems that "braindumps" are not looked to highly
> upon. Is using them cheating?
>
> Thanks,
> Laura


If a professor was giving you an exam, would he consider it cheating if you
knew the exact questions from the test ahead of time? There are legitimate
practice exams out there, some that are Microsoft approved. This is no
different than the professor giving you practice questions for his exam. But
to get your hands on the actual exam questions?... Yes, this is cheating.

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Old 11-13-2003, 05:44 PM   #6
Brat
 
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your copy of Test King is also cheating

"mcglinchey" <> wrote in message
news: om...
> Hello all! I've been in IT for 6 years and have been working with w2k
> for the past year. I'm going for 70-215 shortly and have been
> studying a bunch! (A Test King study guide, Microsoft's Training Kit,
> etc.) I've also been looking at alot of cert websites. I was
> wondering tho....it seems that "braindumps" are not looked to highly
> upon. Is using them cheating?
>
> Thanks,
> Laura





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Old 11-13-2003, 06:07 PM   #7
Jeff Rush
 
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Guess the question is, do you care? Is passing the exam faster worth your
self-respect? Also you don't retain the cramsession answers.



"mcglinchey" <> wrote in message
news: om...
> Hello all! I've been in IT for 6 years and have been working with w2k
> for the past year. I'm going for 70-215 shortly and have been
> studying a bunch! (A Test King study guide, Microsoft's Training Kit,
> etc.) I've also been looking at alot of cert websites. I was
> wondering tho....it seems that "braindumps" are not looked to highly
> upon. Is using them cheating?
>
> Thanks,
> Laura





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Old 11-14-2003, 12:16 AM   #8
Davor Dzorlev
 
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Please explain why Test King's tests are cheating?

"Brat" <> wrote in message
news:bp0fv7$rtm$...
> your copy of Test King is also cheating
>
> "mcglinchey" <> wrote in message
> news: om...
> > Hello all! I've been in IT for 6 years and have been working with w2k
> > for the past year. I'm going for 70-215 shortly and have been
> > studying a bunch! (A Test King study guide, Microsoft's Training Kit,
> > etc.) I've also been looking at alot of cert websites. I was
> > wondering tho....it seems that "braindumps" are not looked to highly
> > upon. Is using them cheating?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Laura

>
>





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Old 11-14-2003, 12:33 AM   #9
Larry Samuels MS-MVP XP \(Shell/User\)
 
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Test King uses dumps--actual exams to prepare their guides.
They are not test guides, they are cheat sheets.

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"Davor Dzorlev" <> wrote in message
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> Please explain why Test King's tests are cheating?
>
> "Brat" <> wrote in message
> news:bp0fv7$rtm$...
> > your copy of Test King is also cheating
> >
> > "mcglinchey" <> wrote in message
> > news: om...
> > > Hello all! I've been in IT for 6 years and have been working with w2k
> > > for the past year. I'm going for 70-215 shortly and have been
> > > studying a bunch! (A Test King study guide, Microsoft's Training Kit,
> > > etc.) I've also been looking at alot of cert websites. I was
> > > wondering tho....it seems that "braindumps" are not looked to highly
> > > upon. Is using them cheating?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Laura

> >
> >

>
>





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Old 11-14-2003, 12:40 AM   #10
|{evin
 
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On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:16:35 +0100, "Davor Dzorlev"
<> wrote:

>Please explain why Test King's tests are cheating?
>


Weeeeelll.. it _could_ be because they pdf's that contain the exact
questions and answers to the tests?

But... feel free to use them. Some of us have PDF editing
capabilities. <eg>

Imagine the ass****er's surprise when they memorize EVERY question and
(incorrect) answer and fail the test.



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