070-216 advices

Hi
I have passed 210 and 215, now i prepare for 216, can you
share your experiencce ?
My native language is not english and some things are very
dificult to understand - DNS, IPSec and Certification
Services. I can read it 3 times, but i cant handle some
principles in these technologies....
I would like to know, witch skills i need more than other
DNS,DHCP,WINS,RRAS(nat,ip routing, vpn), IPSec,
Certificate Services, TCP/IP Subneting ???

Dr.Evil

Get some experience with the product.

"Dr.Evil" <> wrote in message
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> Hi
> I have passed 210 and 215, now i prepare for 216, can you
> share your experiencce ?
> My native language is not english and some things are very
> dificult to understand - DNS, IPSec and Certification
> Services. I can read it 3 times, but i cant handle some
> principles in these technologies....
> I would like to know, witch skills i need more than other
> DNS,DHCP,WINS,RRAS(nat,ip routing, vpn), IPSec,
> Certificate Services, TCP/IP Subneting ???

Don't You Wish

Question, If a Mcse or mcsa cert. is suppose to represent
experince and knowledge, why does Microsoft market their
Mcse track courses to people who have little experince
with computers as a way to get your foot in the door to a
new career?
>-----Original Message-----
>Get some experience with the product.
>
>"Dr.Evil" <> wrote in
message
>news:0b8001c3a9db$1e9f1560$...
>> Hi
>> I have passed 210 and 215, now i prepare for 216, can
you
>> share your experiencce ?
>> My native language is not english and some things are
very
>> dificult to understand - DNS, IPSec and Certification
>> Services. I can read it 3 times, but i cant handle some
>> principles in these technologies....
>> I would like to know, witch skills i need more than
other
>> DNS,DHCP,WINS,RRAS(nat,ip routing, vpn), IPSec,
>> Certificate Services, TCP/IP Subneting ???
>
>
>.
>

Can we just get along

>Question, If a Mcse or mcsa cert. is suppose to represent
>experince and knowledge, why does Microsoft market their
>Mcse track courses to people who have little experince
>with computers as a way to get your foot in the door to a
>new career?

The more the merrier!

If any company hires an individual solely on their Microsoft cert,
that company deserves to go down the pan.

Kline Sphere

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:33:23 -0800, "Can we just get along"
<> wrote:

>Question, If a Mcse or mcsa cert. is suppose to represent
>experince and knowledge, why does Microsoft market their
>Mcse track courses to people who have little experince
>with computers as a way to get your foot in the door to a
>new career?

I don't think it's Microsoft doing it so much as it is all the
'training centers' that have popped up. If I hear one more 'I used to
flip burgers, then I got trained at ***** as a Microsoft Certified
Systems Engineer... now I'm making 70 thousand dollars within my first
year" ad, I think I may snap.

I've got over *7* years of hardcore experience (not counting all the
time I spent doing IT work as a 'helper', I hold both the MCSE and
MCSD as well as a handful of other certs and I'm STILL not making
70k... granted, I'm close... but ****... these radio ads make me ill.

|{evin

But what is Ms position when they market to people with
no experince?
>-----Original Message-----
>>Question, If a Mcse or mcsa cert. is suppose to
represent
>>experince and knowledge, why does Microsoft market
their
>>Mcse track courses to people who have little experince
>>with computers as a way to get your foot in the door to
a
>>new career?
>
>The more the merrier!
>
>If any company hires an individual solely on their
Microsoft cert,
>that company deserves to go down the pan.
>.
>

Can we just get along

>But what is Ms position when they market to people with
>no experince?

They don't carew who takes the exams - it's that simple.

Kline Sphere

"Kline Sphere" <.> wrote in message
news:...
> >But what is Ms position when they market to people with
> >no experince?
>
> They don't carew who takes the exams - it's that simple.

And they don't care who cheats or not either. People with no IT
background can rip through MCSE by purchasing products from exam
question companies.

Does MS give a ****? Not really. If they did they would do something
about it besides their stupid " look at our new innovative exam
techniques" page on their site. What a load of crap.

Kline is damn right. MS don't care. If it generates a tidy income,
then everyone is smiling. The only people suffering are the IT
guys/gals who are having to compete with cheap home made MCSA/E's for
positions, which don't pay as well as they use to due to market
flooding.

Stay safe.

Karl \Johnno\ Gustaf

it is the training companies that market the cert to people with no
experience


"Can we just get along" <> wrote in
message news:4d1601c3abd3$d4eda8a0$...
> But what is Ms position when they market to people with
> no experince?
> >-----Original Message-----
> >>Question, If a Mcse or mcsa cert. is suppose to
> represent
> >>experince and knowledge, why does Microsoft market
> their
> >>Mcse track courses to people who have little experince
> >>with computers as a way to get your foot in the door to
> a
> >>new career?
> >
> >The more the merrier!
> >
> >If any company hires an individual solely on their
> Microsoft cert,
> >that company deserves to go down the pan.
> >.
> >

Consultant

>it is the training companies that market the cert to people with no
>experience

Money, money, money....

Kline Sphere