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mickey
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      08-14-2006
Well I consider myself a pretty competent computer user (dip in
multimedia). . . But networking always gets me.

Two computers at home. Connected to a router. ipconfig settings below.
Weeks ago I had them both working together sharing printers etc
beautifully. Now. Nothing.

KITCHEN
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.1.1.7
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.1.1.2

MICHAEL
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.1.1.5
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.1.1.1

Both set up exactly the same with network set up wizard. Both using
WinXP Pro SP2. Both on Mshome and setup to connect to the network
through a hub/router.

Theres probably a few solutions, and I have attempted a google search
and used good old MS Help to no avail.

Any help / suggestions much appreciated!

 
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Mike Easter
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      08-14-2006
mickey wrote:

> Two computers at home. Connected to a router. ipconfig settings below.


These aren't things you usually have to set by 'hand' but here's how
they usually look:

> KITCHEN
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.1.1.7
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0


That is usually 255.255.255.0

> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.1.1.2


That is typically the router's 'internal' IP which is the same for both,
in this configuration I would think it would be 10.1.1.1 like Michael.
Mine is 192.168.1.1 for everything.

> MICHAEL
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.1.1.5


That and the kitchen's were assigned by the router, different from
kitchen, fine.

> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0


There's that funky subnet mask again.

> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.1.1.1


That's what I would expect for both.

Can you look at the router's information with a browser IP address like
http://192.168.1.1 or http://10.1.1.1 ?

What is the brand/model of the router?

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mickey
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      08-14-2006

mickey wrote:
> Well I consider myself a pretty competent computer user (dip in
> multimedia). . . But networking always gets me.
>
> Two computers at home. Connected to a router. ipconfig settings below.
> Weeks ago I had them both working together sharing printers etc
> beautifully. Now. Nothing.
>
> KITCHEN
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.1.1.7
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.1.1.2
>
> MICHAEL
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.1.1.5
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.1.1.1
>
> Both set up exactly the same with network set up wizard. Both using
> WinXP Pro SP2. Both on Mshome and setup to connect to the network
> through a hub/router.
>
> Theres probably a few solutions, and I have attempted a google search
> and used good old MS Help to no avail.
>
> Any help / suggestions much appreciated!


Uninstall Windows Live OneCare, and Windows Live Defender and it all
works fine. . Fun.

 
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why?
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      08-14-2006

On 14 Aug 2006 09:18:51 -0700, mickey wrote:

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>Well I consider myself a pretty competent computer user (dip in
>multimedia). . . But networking always gets me.
>
>Two computers at home. Connected to a router. ipconfig settings below.
>Weeks ago I had them both working together sharing printers etc
>beautifully. Now. Nothing.
>
>KITCHEN
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.1.1.7
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.1.1.2
>
>MICHAEL
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.1.1.5
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.1.1.1
>
>Both set up exactly the same with network set up wizard. Both using


If they are connected to 1 router, why 2 different default gateways?

Network Wizard, rubbish.

Me
 
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jck@jck.jck
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      08-14-2006
Are these settings automaticly obtained?

If not, go to your TCP/IP settings, and choose the option automaticly obtain
IP-address settings.

If they are automaticly obtained, you should try going to your TCP/IP
settings and fill in the following info's there (on the Kitchen computer):

IP: Address: 10.1.1.7
Subnet mask: 255.0.0.0
Default gateway: 10.1.1.1


I think you did fill in the info's yourself. This, because you have 2
differend gateway's on only 1 router. That is kinda odd.

It is also odd that you have A-class router settings for a home computer. I
assume your router has like 4 ports, so your ip address should be
192.168.0.xxx and your gateway 255.255.255.0, default gateway:
192.168.0.254, atleast something in that area.

Are you also certain both computers are in the same workgroup?
 
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Dave Taylor
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      08-14-2006
http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/(E-Mail Removed) wrote in
news:a6058$44e0ad7b$52d9bf5f$(E-Mail Removed) bel.net:

> It is also odd that you have A-class router settings for a home
> computer. I
>


I have seen this when the customer has a telecom ADSL modem providing DHCP
and one layer of NAT. They seem to default to 10.1.1.x



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EMB
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      08-14-2006
Dave Taylor wrote:
> (E-Mail Removed) wrote in
> news:a6058$44e0ad7b$52d9bf5f$(E-Mail Removed) bel.net:
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>> It is also odd that you have A-class router settings for a home
>> computer. I
>>

>
> I have seen this when the customer has a telecom ADSL modem providing DHCP
> and one layer of NAT. They seem to default to 10.1.1.x


Yep - the dlink routers seem to do that


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Enkidu
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      08-14-2006
Mike Easter wrote:
> mickey wrote:
>
>> Two computers at home. Connected to a router. ipconfig settings
>> below.

>
> These aren't things you usually have to set by 'hand' but here's how
> they usually look:
>
>> KITCHEN Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : IP Address. . . . . . .
>> . . . . . : 10.1.1.7 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0

>
> That is usually 255.255.255.0
>

Nothing wrong with that netmask. It just makes his potential network,
um, HUGE! The NMs just have to be the same across all devices (including
the router).

The default gateways should probably be the same, as you said, but I
can't see anything wrong there.

Cheers,

Cliff
 
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Enkidu
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      08-14-2006
(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> Are these settings automaticly obtained?
>
> If not, go to your TCP/IP settings, and choose the option automaticly obtain
> IP-address settings.
>
> If they are automaticly obtained, you should try going to your TCP/IP
> settings and fill in the following info's there (on the Kitchen computer):
>
> IP: Address: 10.1.1.7
> Subnet mask: 255.0.0.0
> Default gateway: 10.1.1.1
>
>
> I think you did fill in the info's yourself. This, because you have 2
> differend gateway's on only 1 router. That is kinda odd.
>
> It is also odd that you have A-class router settings for a home computer. I
> assume your router has like 4 ports, so your ip address should be
> 192.168.0.xxx and your gateway 255.255.255.0, default gateway:
> 192.168.0.254, atleast something in that area.
>

Shouldn't make any difference.

Cheers,

Cliff
 
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Peter Huebner
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      08-14-2006
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> Any help / suggestions much appreciated!
>


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scroll down the page 'til you get to the heading "Articles and Tutorials"

It's the most complete kit for getting your windows network up and running.

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