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After having been dorment for 18 months, I have finally found the motivation
to finish the MCSE 2000 certification, as I have set my eyes to upgrading to
2003.

So, here's a question regarding the exams that I am yet to do.

I have done 70-210 and 70-215 which I found were a breeze. 70-217 I found
not much harder. I am currently 70-216, which sounds like a very hard exam
to pass. Those of you who have sat 70-216 recently: how hard is it? I am no
newby, but an MCSE + I with a solid 5 years experience as network admin, and
have worked with Active Directory and Windows 2000 for a year now.

I have been contemplaiting doing 70-219 to finish off my MCSE qualification.
How does that rate?

Your input would be very much appreciated. Many thanks.

Ernst Meyer

Just watch the time. Too many long qustions that eat away
your time.

Be crystal clear on RRAS DHCP DHCPRelay DNS WINS W2K
routing subnetting IPsec etc and should be ok.




>-----Original Message-----
>After having been dorment for 18 months, I have finally
found the motivation
>to finish the MCSE 2000 certification, as I have set my
eyes to upgrading to
>2003.
>
>So, here's a question regarding the exams that I am yet
to do.
>
>I have done 70-210 and 70-215 which I found were a
breeze. 70-217 I found
>not much harder. I am currently 70-216, which sounds like
a very hard exam
>to pass. Those of you who have sat 70-216 recently: how
hard is it? I am no
>newby, but an MCSE + I with a solid 5 years experience as
network admin, and
>have worked with Active Directory and Windows 2000 for a
year now.
>
>I have been contemplaiting doing 70-219 to finish off my
MCSE qualification.
>How does that rate?
>
>Your input would be very much appreciated. Many thanks.
>
>Ernst Meyer
>
>
>.
>

The worst test I took. The worst part was the screen
layout. Many wordy questions describing the network and
often go into two screens on a small monitor with one or
two network diagrams. This is the only one when I
finished the test with 2 min remaining. The subject
matter was not difficult!

Good luck!
>-----Original Message-----
>Just watch the time. Too many long qustions that eat
away
>your time.
>
>Be crystal clear on RRAS DHCP DHCPRelay DNS WINS W2K
>routing subnetting IPsec etc and should be ok.
>
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>After having been dorment for 18 months, I have finally
>found the motivation
>>to finish the MCSE 2000 certification, as I have set my
>eyes to upgrading to
>>2003.
>>
>>So, here's a question regarding the exams that I am yet
>to do.
>>
>>I have done 70-210 and 70-215 which I found were a
>breeze. 70-217 I found
>>not much harder. I am currently 70-216, which sounds
like
>a very hard exam
>>to pass. Those of you who have sat 70-216 recently: how
>hard is it? I am no
>>newby, but an MCSE + I with a solid 5 years experience
as
>network admin, and
>>have worked with Active Directory and Windows 2000 for
a
>year now.
>>
>>I have been contemplaiting doing 70-219 to finish off
my
>MCSE qualification.
>>How does that rate?
>>
>>Your input would be very much appreciated. Many thanks.
>>
>>Ernst Meyer
>>
>>
>>.
>>
>.
>

70-216 was the exam that taught me not to "single source" study. I had
used Sybex exclusively through the NT4 track, and beginning of 2000
track...until 216. I thought the exam was so hard that I was wondering
if they had the right exam loaded in the computer...that bad.

So I went home and got a New Riders and Passport. I seriously examined
the new riders book, and then read through the Passport.

I went in and 216 was a totally different exam. During this run
through I was thinking "this is a fair exam, if I fail it, I deserve
to"...and I passed.

The only difference was reading the additional two sources...and that
made the exam "not bad at all", it made all the difference in the world.


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216: All previous replies are good ones. Look for the
exam objectives as the best guide for everything you need
to know. If you don't know where to find exam objectives,
you will struggle.....

219, 220 and 221 have a unique style to them. I found
them easy. But: I think anyone who can think spacially
and laterally and not forget the context of what they have
just read would do well. On the other hand, if you cannot
imagine a 3D structure in your head and how it fits
together (spatial thinking), if you struggle with how A
links to B links to C and provides D (lateral) and if you
are hopeless at the memory game you find on most mobile
phones (remembering what you just learnt) then you will
likely find these scenario based exams difficult.

There is a large amount of information presented, that
needs to be mentally sorted and you have to sift through
the padding to get to the substance that answers the
questions. And then read all of it again for the next
question. And so on.

I think if there was no time limit, and you knew the
material *reasonably* well, you could get 90+ % easily.
The pressure of time to come up with a solution in each
case makes these tests more difficult. The amount of
information you can fit on a screen at one time so you can
speed read through it adds an extra dimension to the
difficulty factor.

Excellent points, Professor Marko
>-----Original Message-----
>216: All previous replies are good ones. Look for the
>exam objectives as the best guide for everything you
need
>to know. If you don't know where to find exam
objectives,
>you will struggle.....
>
>219, 220 and 221 have a unique style to them. I found
>them easy. But: I think anyone who can think spacially
>and laterally and not forget the context of what they
have
>just read would do well. On the other hand, if you
cannot
>imagine a 3D structure in your head and how it fits
>together (spatial thinking), if you struggle with how A
>links to B links to C and provides D (lateral) and if
you
>are hopeless at the memory game you find on most mobile
>phones (remembering what you just learnt) then you will
>likely find these scenario based exams difficult.
>
>There is a large amount of information presented, that
>needs to be mentally sorted and you have to sift through
>the padding to get to the substance that answers the
>questions. And then read all of it again for the next
>question. And so on.
>
>I think if there was no time limit, and you knew the
>material *reasonably* well, you could get 90+ % easily.
>The pressure of time to come up with a solution in each
>case makes these tests more difficult. The amount of
>information you can fit on a screen at one time so you
can
>speed read through it adds an extra dimension to the
>difficulty factor.
>.
>

216 I failed first time, new style exam second time round, found it easier
to understand, lots of drag and drop network diagrams, subnetting, IPSec,
DNS, WINS, DHCPRelay. I set myself a limit on how long to spend on each
question, just make sure you watch the clock as I got caught out first time.


"Plain Jane" <> wrote in message
news:049d01c3a2d5$f954e4d0$...
> Excellent points, Professor Marko
> >-----Original Message-----
> >216: All previous replies are good ones. Look for the
> >exam objectives as the best guide for everything you
> need
> >to know. If you don't know where to find exam
> objectives,
> >you will struggle.....
> >
> >219, 220 and 221 have a unique style to them. I found
> >them easy. But: I think anyone who can think spacially
> >and laterally and not forget the context of what they
> have
> >just read would do well. On the other hand, if you
> cannot
> >imagine a 3D structure in your head and how it fits
> >together (spatial thinking), if you struggle with how A
> >links to B links to C and provides D (lateral) and if
> you
> >are hopeless at the memory game you find on most mobile
> >phones (remembering what you just learnt) then you will
> >likely find these scenario based exams difficult.
> >
> >There is a large amount of information presented, that
> >needs to be mentally sorted and you have to sift through
> >the padding to get to the substance that answers the
> >questions. And then read all of it again for the next
> >question. And so on.
> >
> >I think if there was no time limit, and you knew the
> >material *reasonably* well, you could get 90+ % easily.
> >The pressure of time to come up with a solution in each
> >case makes these tests more difficult. The amount of
> >information you can fit on a screen at one time so you
> can
> >speed read through it adds an extra dimension to the
> >difficulty factor.
> >.
> >

Hi guys

Thanks for your input. By the sounds of it they call 70-216 'the beast' for
a reason. I shall make sure that I am well prepared before I am going to
tackle it.

Thanks again.

Ernst


"znakomi" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> 70-216 was the exam that taught me not to "single source" study. I had
> used Sybex exclusively through the NT4 track, and beginning of 2000
> track...until 216. I thought the exam was so hard that I was wondering
> if they had the right exam loaded in the computer...that bad.
>
> So I went home and got a New Riders and Passport. I seriously examined
> the new riders book, and then read through the Passport.
>
> I went in and 216 was a totally different exam. During this run
> through I was thinking "this is a fair exam, if I fail it, I deserve
> to"...and I passed.
>
> The only difference was reading the additional two sources...and that
> made the exam "not bad at all", it made all the difference in the world.
>
>
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