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DemoDisk
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      07-24-2006

If you're familiar with Win-modems or software modems (also called HSF
or HSP modems) maybe you can help me out.

Is it normal for Windows (Win98se) to list the modem installation in two
places in Device Manager? The first listing calls it HSF Modem and shows
the resources and driver assigned to it. The second listing shows the
Windows modem icon. Its properties are in a tabbed sheet with a lot more
info -- but it *also* has resources and drivers assigned to it. I've
tried, but Windows PnP keeps re-installing the same way.

The modem is a Sterling S20 and the CD installs BVRP telecom software
("Net Waiting," etc.) along with drivers. I'm just trying to get better
speed and a stable connection from this thing, without all the software
frills. For now, the best I can do is 21,600 bps and constant restarts.

Is the problem the soft *modem*, the soft *ware*, Windows 98se, or me?
Please help if you can; I'll even paste the current .LOG if that's of
use.

Thanks,
JM

Here's the stuff:
07-24-2006 00:35:27.89 - CNXT V92 PCI Modem in use.
07-24-2006 00:35:27.89 - Modem type: CNXT V92 PCI Modem
07-24-2006 00:35:27.89 - Modem inf path: OCRCSTX.INF
07-24-2006 00:35:27.89 - Modem inf section: HSFModem1
07-24-2006 00:35:28.67 - 115200,N,8,1
07-24-2006 00:35:28.67 - 57600,N,8,1
07-24-2006 00:35:28.67 - Initializing modem.
07-24-2006 00:35:28.67 - Send: AT<cr>
07-24-2006 00:35:28.67 - Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf>
07-24-2006 00:35:28.67 - Interpreted response: Ok
07-24-2006 00:35:28.67 - Send:
AT&FE0V1S0=0&C1&D2+MR=2;+DR=1;+ER=1;W2<cr>
07-24-2006 00:35:28.81 - Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf>
07-24-2006 00:35:28.81 - Interpreted response: Ok
07-24-2006 00:35:28.81 - Send: ATS7=255M1+ES=3,0,2;+DS=3;+IFC=1,1;X4<cr>
07-24-2006 00:35:28.81 - Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf>
07-24-2006 00:35:28.81 - Interpreted response: Ok
07-24-2006 00:35:28.81 - Dialing.
07-24-2006 00:35:28.81 - Send: ATDT;<cr>
07-24-2006 00:35:30.27 - Recv: <cr><lf>OK<cr><lf>
07-24-2006 00:35:30.27 - Interpreted response: Ok
07-24-2006 00:35:30.27 - Dialing.
07-24-2006 00:35:30.27 - Send: ATDT*##,#######<cr>
07-24-2006 00:35:58.33 - Recv: <cr><lf>+MCR: V92<cr><lf>
07-24-2006 00:35:58.33 - Interpreted response: Informative
07-24-2006 00:35:58.33 - Recv: <cr><lf>+MRR: 21600<cr><lf>
07-24-2006 00:35:58.33 - Interpreted response: Informative
07-24-2006 00:35:59.03 - Recv: <cr><lf>+ER: LAPM<cr><lf>
07-24-2006 00:35:59.03 - Interpreted response: Informative
07-24-2006 00:35:59.03 - Recv: <cr><lf>+DR: V44<cr><lf>
07-24-2006 00:35:59.03 - Interpreted response: Informative
07-24-2006 00:35:59.03 - Recv: <cr><lf>CONNECT 21600<cr><lf>
07-24-2006 00:35:59.03 - Interpreted response: Connect
07-24-2006 00:35:59.03 - Connection established at 21600bps.
07-24-2006 00:35:59.03 - Error-control on.
07-24-2006 00:35:59.03 - Data compression on.

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thanatoid
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      07-24-2006
"DemoDisk" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> If you're familiar with Win-modems or software modems (also
> called HSF or HSP modems) maybe you can help me out.


WHAT is your problem man? At least a dozen people have answered
you and you have not taken ANY of their advice. You keep on
posting the same **** when the solution is ten bucks away.
JEEZUS.

I'm sure what I told you was not the best advice, but it's all I
have here. So here it is again, and for ****'s sake, let's not
hear any more about your ****ing not-so-Sterling modem, OK?

BTW the offer to post the CTS program has been cancelled due to
user problems.

"DemoDisk" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
news:(E-Mail Removed):

> Since the middle of April I've been struggling to get this
> homebuild straightened out. Finally got the DVD writer
> back, and fought to get a Sterling S20 softmodem working.


<SNIP>

On the off chance you may still check to see if anyone's written
anything else, softmodems are not a problem because they "use
system resources" but because they MESS with the system.

A good modem does NOT have to be external, it just has to be a
complete modem, not a soft- or win-modem.

You can get an internal PCI modem for about 10-15 dollars. Or 3
dollars at a garage sale.

OTOH, there is a DOS program from 1998 called
"PortInfo and the CTS Serial Port Utilities"

It's a little complicated but it helped me resolve some problems
I had with my USR early on.

I checked the web site and they're history. You may be able to
find it on some shareware server, or another program like it. (I
once DL'd modem doctor or something and after 5 hours of
constant dialing and disconnecting and buzzing it told me my
internal USR modem was operating at 99% capacity. THAT was a
waste of time!)

Since the CTS thing is under 1 MB if you ask nicely I suppose I
could post it for you in a.b.w.ibm-pc.old

But rather than bothering with all that I would just get a real
modem and see what happens. Anyone can afford ten bucks.
 
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      07-24-2006

"thanatoid" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote...

> WHAT is your problem man? At least a dozen people have answered
> you and you have not taken ANY of their advice. You keep on
> posting the same **** when the solution is ten bucks away.
> JEEZUS.


Cool it, thantoid. You're overreacting. Ain't no dozen people answered
my post. But thanks for your earlier, helpful answer. Nice, once I saw
it. My "problem" is trying to understand the system I've
built/repaired. I also wanted to hear from other people who have seen
this double-install issue. The problem appears several other times in
Dev Mgr.

I'd also like to know where you find a non-winmodem for $10. I'd dump
this shitter in a minute, but online searches -- *slow* online
searches -- gave prices on all makes $39 - $89, and I'm looking for
customer reviews.

> I'm sure what I told you was not the best advice, but it's all I
> have here. So here it is again, and for ****'s sake, let's not
> hear any more about your ****ing not-so-Sterling modem, OK?


Calm down, for Chrissake. What would K-man think?

JM


 
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Whiskers
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      07-24-2006
On 2006-07-24, DemoDisk <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

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> The modem is a Sterling S20 and the CD installs BVRP telecom software
> ("Net Waiting," etc.) along with drivers. I'm just trying to get better
> speed and a stable connection from this thing, without all the software
> frills. For now, the best I can do is 21,600 bps and constant restarts.
>
> Is the problem the soft *modem*, the soft *ware*, Windows 98se, or me?
> Please help if you can; I'll even paste the current .LOG if that's of
> use.


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One easy check you could do for yourself would be to try a different
modem, of course.

Unless you are using yourself as part of the connection between your modem
and telephone socket, I think you can rule yourself out. If you are doing
that, then stop it; it's a miracle you're on line at all.

If the modem is working, which it obviously is, then the first thing to
check is the telephone line. Until you get that done, by having the
telephone company send someone to your place to test the connection and
carry out any adjutments or repairs needed, there isn't much else you can
do. Tell them you want to use it for internet access.

Don't bother starting another thread about this until the telco have
checked the line from your end; the facts don't change all by themselves
no matter how often you ask.

If your telephone line is split between two or more customers (or to give
you two 'lines' using one wire), using a gadget called a DACS, then you'll be
lucky to get anything more than 28,800kbps no matter what modem you use or
how good the line is.

You'll never get 56kbps unless your modem is inside the telephone exhange
- and possibly not even then. Anything more than 40kbps is 'pretty good'
in normal circumstances. Even if you get that sort of 'speed', the actual
rate at which data gets in or out may not be much better than you are
getting already - dial-up is /slow/.

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      07-24-2006
"DemoDisk" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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>
> "thanatoid" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote...
>
>> WHAT is your problem man? At least a dozen people have
>> answered you and you have not taken ANY of their advice.
>> You keep on posting the same **** when the solution is ten
>> bucks away. JEEZUS.

>
> Cool it, thantoid.


Thank you for not capitalizing it, but you left out a letter. ;-
\

> You're overreacting. Ain't no dozen
> people answered my post.


Well, close or maybe even more. This is a busy group and being a
33.6 modem user myself I won't DL 5,000 articles just to see how
many.

> But thanks for your earlier,
> helpful answer. Nice, once I saw it.


If you didn't see mine, you may not have seen some of the others
as well. But let's move on.

> My "problem" is
> trying to understand the system I've built/repaired.


Commendable, but you should have known from the start that there
are certain things to avoid WITHOUT trying to "understand them"
- like software modems.

> I
> also wanted to hear from other people who have seen this
> double-install issue. The problem appears several other
> times in Dev Mgr.
>
> I'd also like to know where you find a non-winmodem for
> $10. I'd dump this shitter in a minute, but online searches
> -- *slow* online searches -- gave prices on all makes $39 -
> $89, and I'm looking for customer reviews.


Never mind the reviews. No one reviews those anymore. Get a
decent brand and it'll be fine. Even an off-brand will
>probably< be fine.

These days a dial-up modem is a dial-up modem and you and I are
probably the only ones even discussing one right now in the
world.

I once got a filthy old 28.8 Supra ISA with NO box, manual or
drivers, found the drivers on the web and it works just fine.

I check before I speak. I looked (I think it was
www.pricegrabber.com ) and saw several places where you can get
a PCI card hard-modem for between 10-20 dollars. And like I
said, a used one for 2-5 dollars at a neighborhood computer
store or a garage sale. Lots (NOT EVERYBODY you broad band
freaks) of people are getting rid of them.

A clear out bin in most OfficeDepots and smaller computer stores
would probably contain some as well. A friendly neighborhood
store may have a case they KNOW they will never sell and give
one to you at cost or half cost.

(The search ALSO showed many modems (especially the external
ones) for 50 dollars and more, but like I said, you don't need
an external modem. Just takes up space. And you're paying for
the nice box with the logo and flashing lights, that's all.)

>> I'm sure what I told you was not the best advice, but it's
>> all I have here. So here it is again, and for ****'s sake,
>> let's not hear any more about your ****ing not-so-Sterling
>> modem, OK?

>
> Calm down, for Chrissake. What would K-man think?
>
> JM


Sorry, my fuse gets shorter as I get older.
 
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