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wrote:

>
> Toolman Tim wrote:
>
>> Or the reboot reboot reboot reboot syndrome?
>
> Those are always fun.
>
Due to the change in mobo drivers, maybe the system partition is recognized
as a new one (GUID of partition changes, but the old one is kept in
registry) and gets assigned another driveletter. Which alone would give
enough grief ... but then, winlogon is "hardcoded" to c: or whatever the
first install was on, and logon is impossible. One more reason to try out
linux.
.....
> I haven't the foggiest idea why a repair install doesn't work for you.
> but then again, I don't know what the original board was or what you
> replaced it with... Ah well, to each his own.
>
Sometimes it will work, sometimes not. Almost unpredictable.
>> --
>> When I was a child, I remember my Mom telling me, "Son, when you grow
>> up, you can marry any girl you please." When I became a young man, I
>> learned the sad fact was that I could not please any of them.
>
> A lesson well learned.

As you grow older, enough women are here to please you ... when changing
diapers once again, at l(e)ast.

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old man <> skrev i
rmxng.51711$ :
> Presumably this means there is no winxp cd?

No, he has the WinXP CD ready. He would just prefer not to have
to install all the games, applications and programs all over again.

> Tried Ebay or similar for used mobo?

Most cards for sale on ebay are located in the states, so the
transportation time alone makes it an uninteresting option. I
have tried local auction sites, but the MB in question is very
old (at least in this part of the world?).

I did find this little feature, which we will attempt to use:
http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic8356.html

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Walter Mautner <> skrev i
abn2n3- :

> Thomas Hejl Pilgaard wrote:
>
>> Hello.
>>
>> My brother has fried a chip on his motherboard:
>> http://blades.dk/pub/865Gone.jpg
>>
>> The motherboard is an MSI 865G Neo2 PLS.
>>
>> He can't find the card for sale anymore, so he was wondering if
>> there are any cards that he could substitute for it, WITHOUT
>> having to reinstall windows in any way.
>>
> Works fine with win3.1, except there is a little issue with
> availability of harddrives
> Btw. which version is your brother using?

Yes, of course - My bad. He is using WinXP w/SP2.

>> I read that there is a chance of just that, with motherboards
>> that have the same chipset. All you would have to do was reboot
>> into safe mode, then reboot, and it just might be fine.
>>
> Not with a OEM version of XP. It will want to be "reactivated" but
> the OEM key doesn't permit that.

Hmmm. THIS might be an issue...

>> Which cards have the same chipset? Any 865G cards?
>> Incidentally, is that the very chip that he fried?:
>
> Another question is how the chip got fried - it can as well be a bad
> power supply or a shortcircuit elsewhere (not on the mobo).

The PSU is a recently installed Chill CP-520A3 (520W).
The motherboard is the second card of that type in his machine.
There was a problem with the first card of the same type - I
can't remember what that problem was, though.

> You can try almost any mainboard with linux these days, if
> availability of a legal windows is a problem.

Why would that be something to try, again?

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Walter Mautner wrote:

>>> When I was a child, I remember my Mom telling me, "Son, when you
>>> grow up, you can marry any girl you please." When I became a young
>>> man, I learned the sad fact was that I could not please any of them.
>
> As you grow older, enough women are here to please you ... when
> changing diapers once again, at l(e)ast.

Wow! That means there's still HOPE! I never thought of it that way before
<g>

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Thomas Hejl Pilgaard wrote:
> Walter Mautner <> skrev i
> abn2n3- :
>> Thomas Hejl Pilgaard wrote:
>>
>>> I read that there is a chance of just that, with motherboards
>>> that have the same chipset. All you would have to do was reboot
>>> into safe mode, then reboot, and it just might be fine.
>>>
>> Not with a OEM version of XP. It will want to be "reactivated" but
>> the OEM key doesn't permit that.
>
> Hmmm. THIS might be an issue...

Not usually. If the key hasn't been "reactivated" in the last several
months, MS usually lets it through no problem. Worst case, he could have to
call MS activation phone number and explain to them. They've been very
helpful in the past with my re-installs of OEM systems due to motherboard
failure. I told them that the only thing I replaced was the motherboard,
keeping the same CPU, RAM, drives, etc. and they issued an activation code.

>
>> You can try almost any mainboard with linux these days, if
>> availability of a legal windows is a problem.
>
> Why would that be something to try, again?

Penguin pusher. Linux, with a graphical user interface, is adequate for many
people, but if he has software that he needs to run which doesn't have a
Linux alternative, then obviously Linux fails to be a viable solution.

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up, you can marry any girl you please." When I became a young man, I
learned the sad fact was that I could not please any of them.

Toolman Tim wrote:

> Thomas Hejl Pilgaard wrote:
>> Walter Mautner <> skrev i
>> abn2n3- :
>>> Thomas Hejl Pilgaard wrote:
>>>
>>>> I read that there is a chance of just that, with motherboards
>>>> that have the same chipset. All you would have to do was reboot
>>>> into safe mode, then reboot, and it just might be fine.
>>>>
>>> Not with a OEM version of XP. It will want to be "reactivated" but
>>> the OEM key doesn't permit that.
>>
>> Hmmm. THIS might be an issue...
>
> Not usually. If the key hasn't been "reactivated" in the last several
> months, MS usually lets it through no problem. Worst case, he could have
> to call MS activation phone number and explain to them. They've been very
> helpful in the past with my re-installs of OEM systems due to motherboard
> failure. I told them that the only thing I replaced was the motherboard,
> keeping the same CPU, RAM, drives, etc. and they issued an activation
> code.

Nice to hear. Here over, it is all left to the vendors. If you buy a new
mainboard, at least discounts for a new OEM windows.
>
>>
>>> You can try almost any mainboard with linux these days, if
>>> availability of a legal windows is a problem.
>>
>> Why would that be something to try, again?
>
> Penguin pusher. Linux, with a graphical user interface, is adequate for
> many people, but if he has software that he needs to run which doesn't
> have a Linux alternative, then obviously Linux fails to be a viable
> solution.
>
Well yes, depends. For common "home use" however, it proves more then
adequate and up till now no spyware and virus griefs, as a bonus.
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Walter Mautner <> skrev i
asv5n3- :

> Toolman Tim wrote:
>
>> Thomas Hejl Pilgaard wrote:
>>
>>> [Reactivation of OEM-key]
>>> Hmmm. THIS might be an issue...
>>
>> Not usually. If the key hasn't been "reactivated" in the last several
>> months, MS usually lets it through no problem. Worst case, he could
>> have to call MS activation phone number and explain to them. They've
>> been very helpful in the past with my re-installs of OEM systems due
>> to motherboard failure. I told them that the only thing I replaced
>> was the motherboard, keeping the same CPU, RAM, drives, etc. and
>> they issued an activation code.

Indeed, he has had excellent service from Microsoft in a
similar situation before.

>>>> You can try almost any mainboard with linux these days, if
>>>> availability of a legal windows is a problem.
>>>
>>> Why would that be something to try, again?
>>
>> Penguin pusher. Linux, with a graphical user interface, is adequate
>> for many people, but if he has software that he needs to run which
>> doesn't have a Linux alternative, then obviously Linux fails to be a
>> viable solution.
>>
> Well yes, depends. For common "home use" however, it proves more then
> adequate and up till now no spyware and virus griefs, as a bonus.

I see.
No, with the kind of use the PC sees (gaming), that is not an option.

Incidentally, the MB is now changed, and apart from having to
fiddle around a little with the SATA cables, the procedure was
no problem at all. The new card is a micro-ATX card (the only
socket-478 card in the local store) with a completely different
chipset, and from a different company to boot.

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"Thomas Hejl Pilgaard" <> wrote:

>old man <> skrev i
>rmxng.51711$ :
>> Presumably this means there is no winxp cd?
>
>No, he has the WinXP CD ready. He would just prefer not to have
>to install all the games, applications and programs all over again.
>

The Repair Install procedure, which is almost always required so as to
rebuild the Hardware Abstraction Layer (HAL) in Windows to match the
components on the new motherboard, will preserve all of the installed
applications, user data files, and configuration settings. Windows
Updates will have to be reinstalled.

See http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm for detailed
instructions.

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

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has never been in bed with a mosquito."

On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 17:39:53 +0200, Walter Mautner wrote:

> Thomas Hejl Pilgaard wrote:
>
>> Hello.
>>
>> My brother has fried a chip on his motherboard:
>> http://blades.dk/pub/865Gone.jpg
>>
>> The motherboard is an MSI 865G Neo2 PLS.
>>
>> He can't find the card for sale anymore, so he was wondering if
>> there are any cards that he could substitute for it, WITHOUT
>> having to reinstall windows in any way.
>>
> Works fine with win3.1, except there is a little issue with availability of
> harddrives
> Btw. which version is your brother using?
>
>> I read that there is a chance of just that, with motherboards
>> that have the same chipset. All you would have to do was reboot
>> into safe mode, then reboot, and it just might be fine.
>>
> Not with a OEM version of XP. It will want to be "reactivated" but the OEM
> key doesn't permit that.

IIRC MS say that if he changes the mobo, he would have to /buy/ another
licence? Thank goodness we don't have to put up with that sh*t in linux.
Makes you wonder just /who's/ machine it is...

>> Which cards have the same chipset? Any 865G cards?
>> Incidentally, is that the very chip that he fried?:
>
> Another question is how the chip got fried - it can as well be a bad power
> supply or a shortcircuit elsewhere (not on the mobo).
> You can try almost any mainboard with linux these days, if availability of a
> legal windows is a problem.

I've swopped quite a few mainboards in systems with linux, & didn't need
to reinstall anything, they just picked up where they'd left off.
Nor did I need to seek anyone's permission to "reactivate" anything!

"Seatoller" <> wrote in message
news u...

> IIRC MS say that if he changes the mobo, he would have to /buy/ another
> licence?

Didn't happen here.





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