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I recently bought a second hard drive for increased storage. I bought
it at CompUSA, it is a "powered by Samsung" 80GB 7200RPM IDE drive. My
problem is that if I connect it to either IDE channel, my BIOS tries to
boot from it, which doesn't work of course because there is no data on
the disc, it's brand new.

My boot drive is a Seagate SATA drive, also 80GB, that is connected via
a PCI card (I believe it was configured this way because my motherboard
does not directly support SATA). There has never been a problem using
that drive. So exactly what do I have to change in BIOS in order to get
my new IDE hard drive up and running? Thanks for any help. Max

SiSoftware Sandra System Summary:

System
Host Name : P43000
User : Max
Domain : WORKGROUP

Processor
Model : 1x Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Speed : 3.01GHz
Performance Rating : PR3999 (estimated)
Cores per Processor : 1 Unit(s)
Threads per Core : 2 Unit(s)
Internal Data Cache : 8kB Synchronous, Write-Thru, 4-way set, 64 byte
line size
L2 On-board Cache : 512kB ECC Synchronous, ATC, 8-way set, 64 byte line
size, 2 lines per sector

Mainboard
Bus(es) : ISA AGP PCI USB i2c/SMBus
MP Support : 2 Processor(s)
MP APIC : No
System BIOS : Phoenix Technologies, LTD 6.00 PG
Mainboard : SiS-648FX
Total Memory : 1GB DDR-SDRAM

Chipset 1
Model : Elitegroup Computer Sys SiS648 CPU to PCI Bridge
Front Side Bus Speed : 4x 200MHz (800MHz data rate)
Total Memory : 1GB DDR-SDRAM
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 200MHz (400MHz data rate)

Video System
Monitor/Panel : Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor/Panel : Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor/Panel : Plug and Play Monitor
Adapter : ALL-IN-WONDER 9600 SERIES
Adapter : ALL-IN-WONDER 9600 SERIES - Secondary

Physical Storage Devices
Removable Drive : Floppy disk drive
Hard Disk : ST380013 AS SCSI Disk Device (75GB)
CD-ROM/DVD : DVDRW IDE1008 (CD 40X Rd, 40X Wr) (DVD 5X Rd, 5X Wr)

Logical Storage Devices
1.44MB 3.5" (A : N/A
Hard Disk (C : 75GB (7.6GB, 10% Free Space) (NTFS)
CD-ROM/DVD (D : N/A

Peripherals
Serial/Parallel Port(s) : 1 COM / 1 LPT
USB Controller/Hub : SiS 7001 PCI to USB Open Host Controller
USB Controller/Hub : SiS 7001 PCI to USB Open Host Controller
USB Controller/Hub : SiS PCI to USB Enhanced Host Controller
USB Controller/Hub : ATI Remote Wonder Controller
USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub
USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub
USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub
Keyboard : Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse : Logitech HID-compliant Cordless Mouse
Human Interface : Logitech Cordless USB Mouse

MultiMedia Device(s)
Device : Creative SB Live! series
Device : Creative Game Port

Communication Device(s)
Device : HSP56 Micromodem

Printers and Faxes
Model : Canon i9900

Power Management
AC Line Status : On-Line

Operating System(s)
Windows System : Microsoft Windows XP/2002 Home (Win32 x86) 5.01.2600
(Service Pack 2)

Network Services
Network Drivers Enabled : No

Performance Tips
Warning 100 : Large memory sizes should be made of Registered/Buffered
memory.
Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for
more information about the tip.

In news: ups.com,
spewed forth:
> I recently bought a second hard drive for increased storage. I bought
> it at CompUSA, it is a "powered by Samsung" 80GB 7200RPM IDE drive. My
> problem is that if I connect it to either IDE channel, my BIOS tries
> to boot from it, which doesn't work of course because there is no
> data on the disc, it's brand new.
>
> My boot drive is a Seagate SATA drive, also 80GB, that is connected
> via a PCI card (I believe it was configured this way because my
> motherboard does not directly support SATA). There has never been a
> problem using that drive. So exactly what do I have to change in BIOS
> in order to get my new IDE hard drive up and running? Thanks for any
> help. Max
>

Go into the BIOS and set the boot options to NOT boot from the IDE drive.

--
My wife and I divorced over religious differences. She thought she was
God and I didn't.

Thank you Toolman Tim, it worked. It sounds stupid, but I've tried so
many different things in the last few hours that my concentration is
down. Also, I don't know too much about this topic, and when reading
about it for hours, your head gets filled up with hundreds of details,
and without being an expert, you don't know what's important, what's
unimportant, what's correct or incorrect. But you gave me just the
nudge that I needed: I went into BIOS, again, for the 15th time or so,
and looked at the options again, here's what it said:

Advanced BIOS Features:

First Boot Device: Floppy
Second Boot Device: CD-Rom
Third Boot Device: HDD-0
Boot Other Device: Disabled.

One of many things I tried earlier was to set the Third Boot Device to
"disabled". That didn't work. So this time, just now, I just changed it
to: "SCSI", and that was the magic word. I didn't think of it before,
because I'm still not sure I have a SCSI system. All I have is a PCI
SATA card, I didn't think that was the same as SCSI, but apparently it
is. So thank you, it boots up properly, I'm in the Microsoft management
console reading the help file about what to do next as far as
partitioning and formatting. Max

In news: oups.com,
spewed forth:
> Thank you Toolman Tim, it worked. It sounds stupid, but I've tried so
> many different things in the last few hours that my concentration is
> down. Also, I don't know too much about this topic, and when reading
> about it for hours, your head gets filled up with hundreds of details,
> and without being an expert, you don't know what's important, what's
> unimportant, what's correct or incorrect. But you gave me just the
> nudge that I needed: I went into BIOS, again, for the 15th time or so,
> and looked at the options again, here's what it said:
>
> Advanced BIOS Features:
>
> First Boot Device: Floppy
> Second Boot Device: CD-Rom
> Third Boot Device: HDD-0
> Boot Other Device: Disabled.
>
> One of many things I tried earlier was to set the Third Boot Device to
> "disabled". That didn't work. So this time, just now, I just changed
> it to: "SCSI", and that was the magic word. I didn't think of it
> before, because I'm still not sure I have a SCSI system. All I have
> is a PCI SATA card, I didn't think that was the same as SCSI, but
> apparently it is. So thank you, it boots up properly, I'm in the
> Microsoft management console reading the help file about what to do
> next as far as partitioning and formatting. Max

Cool! No, you don't have SCSI in your system, or you would know it <g>. But
if you had SCSI in your system, it would be in a PCI slot just like your
SATA. So apparently, while the system didn't like the disabled on the HDD-0
third device, the use of SCSI forced the BIOS to look elsewhere.

--
My wife and I divorced over religious differences. She thought she was
God and I didn't.

Hmm, interesting. But now that you say I don't have a SCSI system, why
is it that both SANDRA and device manager identify my boot drive as a
SCSI device?

S.A.N.D.R.A. calls it "Hard Disk : ST380013 AS SCSI Disk Device
(75GB)",
device manager calls it "ST380013 AS SCSI Disk Device" ?

I looked in device manager, under "devices by connection", and it says:

P43000 > ACPI Multiprocessor PC > Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System > PCI
Bus > Adaptec Serial ATA Host Controller > ST380013 AS SCSI Disk Device

<> wrote in message
news: oups.com...
> Hmm, interesting. But now that you say I don't have a SCSI system, why
> is it that both SANDRA and device manager identify my boot drive as a
> SCSI device?
>
> S.A.N.D.R.A. calls it "Hard Disk : ST380013 AS SCSI Disk Device
> (75GB)",
> device manager calls it "ST380013 AS SCSI Disk Device" ?
>
> I looked in device manager, under "devices by connection", and it says:
>
> P43000 > ACPI Multiprocessor PC > Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System > PCI
> Bus > Adaptec Serial ATA Host Controller > ST380013 AS SCSI Disk Device
>
Interesting. But it's not SCSI. Wrong connections.

On 2006-04-02, <> wrote:
> Hmm, interesting. But now that you say I don't have a SCSI system, why
> is it that both SANDRA and device manager identify my boot drive as a
> SCSI device?
>
> S.A.N.D.R.A. calls it "Hard Disk : ST380013 AS SCSI Disk Device
> (75GB)",
> device manager calls it "ST380013 AS SCSI Disk Device" ?
>
> I looked in device manager, under "devices by connection", and it says:
>
> P43000 > ACPI Multiprocessor PC > Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System > PCI
> Bus > Adaptec Serial ATA Host Controller > ST380013 AS SCSI Disk Device

SATA drives 'read as SCSI' in linux, too. I think it is the fact that the
SATA controller uses the BIOS SCSI extensions for the sake of compatibility.

When my seagate drive came up as 'sda' during a linux install, I puzzled
over the fact but just accepted it. I haven't found a good reference yet.

SATA and SCSI are similarly different from IDE 'master/slave' arrangements
that it makes sense to me.

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<> wrote in message
news: oups.com...
> All I have is a PCI
> SATA card, I didn't think that was the same as SCSI, but apparently it
> is.

It isn't, but as far as these things go, if it's not IDE, it's SCSI (even if
it isn't)

Dan





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