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Is this a universal problem (with MS XP)?

 
 
Gary R.
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      10-18-2004
You had a great suggestion earlier in the thread...connect the network as a
wired network, set up your networking, and then hook up and configure your
wireless.

XP was released when wireless was in a primitive stage; you expect it to now
deal with everything that comes along later, including all sorts and brands
of hardware, as though it was built for it. Mac, on the other hand, comes
out with new OS versions (at considerable expense, not free) every time you
turn around. Mac users are not known for their honesty about their systems
anyway...they were always perfect, that is until something newer came along,
turning the old ones into junk (suddenly OS9 crashed a lot, was primitive,
unintuitive, etc. when OSX came along...hmmm, odd, it was perfect up til
then. You think they'll be honest with you about everything else?). They
love to gloat when anyone using Windows has a problem, but are very
secretive about their problems when around non-Mac users, or they take them
in stride as being 'normal'.

I find XP networks itself as a wired system; sharing is simple to add
through the wizard. Wireless, if the hardware and drivers are right, is
then simple to set up. I've done this on multiple machines with no
problems, except one. The "one" was getting wireless internet to work, and
it turned out to be the router (or driver software) was poorly designed; I
exchanged it for a different brand and inserted the setup CD, and it's
worked perfectly since.

So you have to set up a wired network first to make things easy, big deal.
Would you prefer to have the option of buying "WIndows XP Jaguar" at $130
instead? If so, maybe you should switch systems or suggest it to Microsoft;
instead of calling it service pack 2 or 3, they'll call it something fancy
and charge you a lot.

Gary

"Kerry Snow" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Well, like I said Jack, it's supposed to be easy. Your web page
> instructions
> look helpful, but not particularly user-friendly. Why should I have to
> spend
> a day poring over various links to Microsoft issues, disabling firewalls,
> re-enabling firewalls, adjusting settings, etc., when MAC users can share
> resources out of the box. I got my VCR to stop blinking in about 5
> minutes.
> Microsoft bills their OS as a simple solution to these sorts of problems,
> but
> the fact that they've had to bend over backwards to address the zillions
> of
> security problems obviously gets in the way of their "simple" solutions.
> The
> Help files included with XP (the equivalent of the VCR user manual, I
> presume), are of no particular help, and the "wizards" appear to screw
> things
> up more than they help, so I'm wondering which "user manual" is available
> to
> us dim-wits.
>
> Kerry (MVP-VCRs)
>
> "Jack" wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> LOL, there are hundreds of thousands of VCRs and DVD player that the Time
>> and the Date on the front is still blinking after years of usage.
>>
>> That does Not mean that something id wrong with the VCR/DVD. Usually it
>> blinks because the User Does Not (or can not) read the manual.
>>
>> Unfortunately the issue that you are referring to can not be answered in
>> the
>> few sentences that are common to On Line Help, and public BBSs.
>>
>> May be this can Help: http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html
>>
>> Log to the page above, and read it slowly. Read every thing first before
>> you
>> act, and then give it a try in an orderly manner.
>>
>> Check every thing. Do Not wave parts of the issue away with excuses like
>> "It
>> Worked before" or, and "I Think it is OK".
>>
>> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Kerry Snow" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > I've been trying to share files between three pcs on a wireless
>> > network,

>> with
>> > absolutely no luck. After posting a few questions here, with no real

>> advice
>> > (or help from Microsoft), I'm beginning to realize that there are loads
>> > of
>> > people with the same problem. I've asked around at work, and among

>> friends,
>> > and I haven't talked to anyone who's been successful.
>> >
>> > I have friends with MACs who laugh at this problem. They just turn
>> > their
>> > machines on and share files easily.
>> >
>> > I have two wireless-connected machines and one desktop that's wired to
>> > my
>> > router. None of them can see each other.
>> >
>> > What gives?
>> > And why is Microsoft so useless in helping the many users who are in
>> > this
>> > predicament?

>>
>>
>>



 
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Carey Holzman
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      11-10-2004
email me if you would like to go over it in email one-on-one.

http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/(E-Mail Removed)

"Kerry Snow" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Well, like I said Jack, it's supposed to be easy. Your web page
> instructions
> look helpful, but not particularly user-friendly. Why should I have to
> spend
> a day poring over various links to Microsoft issues, disabling firewalls,
> re-enabling firewalls, adjusting settings, etc., when MAC users can share
> resources out of the box. I got my VCR to stop blinking in about 5
> minutes.
> Microsoft bills their OS as a simple solution to these sorts of problems,
> but
> the fact that they've had to bend over backwards to address the zillions
> of
> security problems obviously gets in the way of their "simple" solutions.
> The
> Help files included with XP (the equivalent of the VCR user manual, I
> presume), are of no particular help, and the "wizards" appear to screw
> things
> up more than they help, so I'm wondering which "user manual" is available
> to
> us dim-wits.
>
> Kerry (MVP-VCRs)
>
> "Jack" wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> LOL, there are hundreds of thousands of VCRs and DVD player that the Time
>> and the Date on the front is still blinking after years of usage.
>>
>> That does Not mean that something id wrong with the VCR/DVD. Usually it
>> blinks because the User Does Not (or can not) read the manual.
>>
>> Unfortunately the issue that you are referring to can not be answered in
>> the
>> few sentences that are common to On Line Help, and public BBSs.
>>
>> May be this can Help: http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html
>>
>> Log to the page above, and read it slowly. Read every thing first before
>> you
>> act, and then give it a try in an orderly manner.
>>
>> Check every thing. Do Not wave parts of the issue away with excuses like
>> "It
>> Worked before" or, and "I Think it is OK".
>>
>> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Kerry Snow" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > I've been trying to share files between three pcs on a wireless
>> > network,

>> with
>> > absolutely no luck. After posting a few questions here, with no real

>> advice
>> > (or help from Microsoft), I'm beginning to realize that there are loads
>> > of
>> > people with the same problem. I've asked around at work, and among

>> friends,
>> > and I haven't talked to anyone who's been successful.
>> >
>> > I have friends with MACs who laugh at this problem. They just turn
>> > their
>> > machines on and share files easily.
>> >
>> > I have two wireless-connected machines and one desktop that's wired to
>> > my
>> > router. None of them can see each other.
>> >
>> > What gives?
>> > And why is Microsoft so useless in helping the many users who are in
>> > this
>> > predicament?

>>
>>
>>



 
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