MCSE Expiration

Does anyone out there have any information on the
expiration of a NT 4.0 MCSE? My company has expressed
interest on helping pay for my 2003, but only if my NT 4.0
expires.
Thanks,
JSB

Jeff Brady

http://www.microsoft.com/traincert/h...nouncement.asp

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"Jeff Brady" <> wrote in message
news:470001c37c88$5970d870$...
> Does anyone out there have any information on the
> expiration of a NT 4.0 MCSE? My company has expressed
> interest on helping pay for my 2003, but only if my NT 4.0
> expires.
> Thanks,
> JSB

Tom Helms [MSFT]

Jeff,

Maybe you should approach the upgrade of your certification as continuing
education. If your company has any plans to upgrade to 2000 or 2003 it would
be in their best interest to help you upgrade your skills.

--
Rick

Rick

I wouldn't recommend lying to them about the expiration.
If they find out that you've lied that's a good way to
move closer to having to look for another job. Best case
you will have lost their trust which makes for a pretty
bad work environment. Tom posted a link that has all the
information that you need. Essentially your cert will
never expire (at least as it stands now). However, as
someone else posted, if your company is planning on
upgrading it's in their best interest to get your skills
upgraded to meet the requirements of the new environment.

>-----Original Message-----
>Pay no attention to whether your NT4 cert is expired,
tell them it does
>expire and get yourself re-certified for your own career
growth.
>
>Do it for yourself, not for them.
>
>If they let you go, you have four hours to clean your
desk and start looking
>for another job to pay the mortgage. Whereas, if you give
notice, you
>typically give them two weeks to replace you. A "wee bit"
one-sided.
>
>Good luck,
>Davin Mickelson, MCSA
>
>"Jeff Brady" <> wrote in message
>news:470001c37c88$5970d870$...
>> Does anyone out there have any information on the
>> expiration of a NT 4.0 MCSE? My company has expressed
>> interest on helping pay for my 2003, but only if my NT
4.0
>> expires.
>> Thanks,
>> JSB
>
>
>.
>

Maestro

> expiration of a NT 4.0 MCSE?

Who died?

--
Cheeseburger MCSE+M


"Jeff Brady" <> wrote in message
news:470001c37c88$5970d870$...
> Does anyone out there have any information on the
> expiration of a NT 4.0 MCSE? My company has expressed
> interest on helping pay for my 2003, but only if my NT 4.0
> expires.
> Thanks,
> JSB

CheeseBurger

Yeah, Maestro, you're right. Lying to your employer is wrong.

But if your employer doesn't want to support your career growth, perhaps you
need to move on to a company that does.
No job is guaranteed.

"Maestro" <> wrote in message
news:49ee01c37ca8$21bf21f0$...
> I wouldn't recommend lying to them about the expiration.
> If they find out that you've lied that's a good way to
> move closer to having to look for another job. Best case
> you will have lost their trust which makes for a pretty
> bad work environment. Tom posted a link that has all the
> information that you need. Essentially your cert will
> never expire (at least as it stands now). However, as
> someone else posted, if your company is planning on
> upgrading it's in their best interest to get your skills
> upgraded to meet the requirements of the new environment.
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Pay no attention to whether your NT4 cert is expired,
> tell them it does
> >expire and get yourself re-certified for your own career
> growth.
> >
> >Do it for yourself, not for them.
> >
> >If they let you go, you have four hours to clean your
> desk and start looking
> >for another job to pay the mortgage. Whereas, if you give
> notice, you
> >typically give them two weeks to replace you. A "wee bit"
> one-sided.
> >
> >Good luck,
> >Davin Mickelson, MCSA
> >
> >"Jeff Brady" <> wrote in message
> >news:470001c37c88$5970d870$...
> >> Does anyone out there have any information on the
> >> expiration of a NT 4.0 MCSE? My company has expressed
> >> interest on helping pay for my 2003, but only if my NT
> 4.0
> >> expires.
> >> Thanks,
> >> JSB
> >
> >
> >.
> >

Davin Mickelson

In this crappy market, I would rather look for another job first before I
try to get fired from my current one.

"Davin Mickelson" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Yeah, Maestro, you're right. Lying to your employer is wrong.
>
> But if your employer doesn't want to support your career growth, perhaps
you
> need to move on to a company that does.
> No job is guaranteed.
>
> "Maestro" <> wrote in message
> news:49ee01c37ca8$21bf21f0$...
> > I wouldn't recommend lying to them about the expiration.
> > If they find out that you've lied that's a good way to
> > move closer to having to look for another job. Best case
> > you will have lost their trust which makes for a pretty
> > bad work environment. Tom posted a link that has all the
> > information that you need. Essentially your cert will
> > never expire (at least as it stands now). However, as
> > someone else posted, if your company is planning on
> > upgrading it's in their best interest to get your skills
> > upgraded to meet the requirements of the new environment.
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >Pay no attention to whether your NT4 cert is expired,
> > tell them it does
> > >expire and get yourself re-certified for your own career
> > growth.
> > >
> > >Do it for yourself, not for them.
> > >
> > >If they let you go, you have four hours to clean your
> > desk and start looking
> > >for another job to pay the mortgage. Whereas, if you give
> > notice, you
> > >typically give them two weeks to replace you. A "wee bit"
> > one-sided.
> > >
> > >Good luck,
> > >Davin Mickelson, MCSA
> > >
> > >"Jeff Brady" <> wrote in message
> > >news:470001c37c88$5970d870$...
> > >> Does anyone out there have any information on the
> > >> expiration of a NT 4.0 MCSE? My company has expressed
> > >> interest on helping pay for my 2003, but only if my NT
> > 4.0
> > >> expires.
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> JSB
> > >
> > >
> > >.
> > >
>
>

Dragon

I partially agree with you. We should know what benefits
we'll receive when we accept the job. Anyone who accepts
a job knowing that their employer doesn't pay for training
shouldn't expect training. They do still have the option
of leaving however, should they change their minds later
in the game.

>-----Original Message-----
>Yeah, Maestro, you're right. Lying to your employer is
wrong.
>
>But if your employer doesn't want to support your career
growth, perhaps you
>need to move on to a company that does.
>No job is guaranteed.
>
>"Maestro" <> wrote in message
>news:49ee01c37ca8$21bf21f0$...
>> I wouldn't recommend lying to them about the expiration.
>> If they find out that you've lied that's a good way to
>> move closer to having to look for another job. Best
case
>> you will have lost their trust which makes for a pretty
>> bad work environment. Tom posted a link that has all
the
>> information that you need. Essentially your cert will
>> never expire (at least as it stands now). However, as
>> someone else posted, if your company is planning on
>> upgrading it's in their best interest to get your skills
>> upgraded to meet the requirements of the new
environment.
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Pay no attention to whether your NT4 cert is expired,
>> tell them it does
>> >expire and get yourself re-certified for your own
career
>> growth.
>> >
>> >Do it for yourself, not for them.
>> >
>> >If they let you go, you have four hours to clean your
>> desk and start looking
>> >for another job to pay the mortgage. Whereas, if you
give
>> notice, you
>> >typically give them two weeks to replace you. A "wee
bit"
>> one-sided.
>> >
>> >Good luck,
>> >Davin Mickelson, MCSA
>> >
>> >"Jeff Brady" <> wrote in
message
>> >news:470001c37c88$5970d870$...
>> >> Does anyone out there have any information on the
>> >> expiration of a NT 4.0 MCSE? My company has expressed
>> >> interest on helping pay for my 2003, but only if my
NT
>> 4.0
>> >> expires.
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> JSB
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>
>.
>

Maestro

Jeff,

This might be more helpful in making your case:

http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/Pr...y/Retiring.asp

Regards,
Patrick Hallihan
MCSE, MCAD, MCSA, MCDBA

"Tom Helms [MSFT]" <> wrote in message
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> http://www.microsoft.com/traincert/h...nouncement.asp
>
> --
> Tom Helms [MSFT]
>
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
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> newsgroup purposes only."
>
>
> "Jeff Brady" <> wrote in message
> news:470001c37c88$5970d870$...
> > Does anyone out there have any information on the
> > expiration of a NT 4.0 MCSE? My company has expressed
> > interest on helping pay for my 2003, but only if my NT 4.0
> > expires.
> > Thanks,
> > JSB
>
>

Patrick Hallihan