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tigercat
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      02-09-2006
I had a PC built for me; it's an Intel P4, 1.28 GhZ, with two Seagate drives
300 Gig and 160 Gig, 1 Gig RAM, running Win XP Pro.

Ever since I got the PC, the following programs crash periodically (not all
the time, just more than enough for a new PC):

Internet Explorer, Firefox, Explorer

Also, everytime I do a Windows Update it screws up my system and after the
updates complete, I can no longer "create a new folder" anywhere on my PC.

I also cannot download Mircosoft AntiSpyware as my O/S fails the MS
validation (due to my O/S being a Value Licensed version, something that the
guy who built my PC said he'd resolve).

I was told by this PC guy that when he installed Corel and than uninstalled
it and installed MS Office 2003, and got some weird error messages (which he
thinks may be causing some of the problems now).

When I look at the Error Logs in System Management there's a mess of
Warnings and Errors that also trouble me for such a new system.

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone had any ideas about what may be causing
the bulk of my PC issues, especially not being able to create a New Folder
after running and installing Windows Updates?

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks.


 
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Special Ed
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      02-09-2006
"tigercat" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I had a PC built for me; it's an Intel P4, 1.28 GhZ, with two Seagate
>drives 300 Gig and 160 Gig, 1 Gig RAM, running Win XP Pro.
>
> Ever since I got the PC, the following programs crash periodically (not
> all the time, just more than enough for a new PC):
>
> Internet Explorer, Firefox, Explorer
>
> Also, everytime I do a Windows Update it screws up my system and after the
> updates complete, I can no longer "create a new folder" anywhere on my PC.
>
> I also cannot download Mircosoft AntiSpyware as my O/S fails the MS
> validation (due to my O/S being a Value Licensed version, something that
> the guy who built my PC said he'd resolve).
>
> I was told by this PC guy that when he installed Corel and than
> uninstalled it and installed MS Office 2003, and got some weird error
> messages (which he thinks may be causing some of the problems now).
>
> When I look at the Error Logs in System Management there's a mess of
> Warnings and Errors that also trouble me for such a new system.
>
> Anyway, I was wondering if anyone had any ideas about what may be causing
> the bulk of my PC issues, especially not being able to create a New Folder
> after running and installing Windows Updates?
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
> Thanks.



Why ever did you put such a slow processor into a box with all that RAM and
HD space?

Not sure what a "value" license for Windows is-- but it sounds like you need
a reformat/reinstall with a valid license number. If you paid by cash or
check, you're probably screwed-- but if you paid by credit card, I'd dispute
the charge to the card issuer, have them issue a charge back and tell the
seller-- no stable operating system, no sale!!

Edw.


 
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Noel Paton
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      02-09-2006

"tigercat" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>I had a PC built for me; it's an Intel P4, 1.28 GhZ, with two Seagate
>drives 300 Gig and 160 Gig, 1 Gig RAM, running Win XP Pro.
>
> Ever since I got the PC, the following programs crash periodically (not
> all the time, just more than enough for a new PC):
>
> Internet Explorer, Firefox, Explorer
>
> Also, everytime I do a Windows Update it screws up my system and after the
> updates complete, I can no longer "create a new folder" anywhere on my PC.
>
> I also cannot download Mircosoft AntiSpyware as my O/S fails the MS
> validation (due to my O/S being a Value Licensed version, something that
> the guy who built my PC said he'd resolve).
>
> I was told by this PC guy that when he installed Corel and than
> uninstalled it and installed MS Office 2003, and got some weird error
> messages (which he thinks may be causing some of the problems now).
>
> When I look at the Error Logs in System Management there's a mess of
> Warnings and Errors that also trouble me for such a new system.
>
> Anyway, I was wondering if anyone had any ideas about what may be causing
> the bulk of my PC issues, especially not being able to create a New Folder
> after running and installing Windows Updates?
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>



Since the guy who sold you the PC obviously sold it with a pirated copy of
the OS installed, I suggest that you take up the matter with him - via
either http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/(E-Mail Removed) or
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/h...k/default.mspx and
https://www.microsoft.com/resources/...ts/report.aspx, or via
the police or trading standards people in your area. In some parts of the
world, people reporting pirated software, reading to a prosecution, are
'rewarded' by MS - with a legal copy of the software they reported.

The software problem probably arises because your Windows XP is still at the
'Gold' state - because the pirated versions cannot be upgraded to SP2
without spoofing a new Product key and ID, and the mismatch is then apparent
to the validation tester (hence the failure of the WGA tool)
Otherwise, I'd suspect a hardware problem - probably RAM mismatch or
failure - download DocMemory from www.simmtester.com and create the boot
disk. Use this to boot the PC, and run the test overnight to check the RAM
thoroughly.
See what it reports.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

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tigercat
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      02-09-2006

"Special Ed" <ed@spl-edu> wrote in message
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> "tigercat" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>I had a PC built for me; it's an Intel P4, 1.28 GhZ, with two Seagate
>>drives 300 Gig and 160 Gig, 1 Gig RAM, running Win XP Pro.
>>
>> Ever since I got the PC, the following programs crash periodically (not
>> all the time, just more than enough for a new PC):
>>
>> Internet Explorer, Firefox, Explorer
>>
>> Also, everytime I do a Windows Update it screws up my system and after
>> the updates complete, I can no longer "create a new folder" anywhere on
>> my PC.
>>
>> I also cannot download Mircosoft AntiSpyware as my O/S fails the MS
>> validation (due to my O/S being a Value Licensed version, something that
>> the guy who built my PC said he'd resolve).
>>
>> I was told by this PC guy that when he installed Corel and than
>> uninstalled it and installed MS Office 2003, and got some weird error
>> messages (which he thinks may be causing some of the problems now).
>>
>> When I look at the Error Logs in System Management there's a mess of
>> Warnings and Errors that also trouble me for such a new system.
>>
>> Anyway, I was wondering if anyone had any ideas about what may be causing
>> the bulk of my PC issues, especially not being able to create a New
>> Folder after running and installing Windows Updates?
>>
>> Any help is appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks.

>
>
> Why ever did you put such a slow processor into a box with all that RAM
> and HD space?
>
> Not sure what a "value" license for Windows is-- but it sounds like you
> need a reformat/reinstall with a valid license number. If you paid by cash
> or check, you're probably screwed-- but if you paid by credit card, I'd
> dispute the charge to the card issuer, have them issue a charge back and
> tell the seller-- no stable operating system, no sale!!
>
> Edw.




well, he's coming over saturday morning to reformat the drive and
uninstall/reinstall the O/S.

i'm going to tell him that i want a different CD version of the O/S he
installed the first time.

what speed processor would you have gone for?

>
>



 
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Noel Paton
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      02-09-2006

"Special Ed" <ed@spl-edu> wrote in message
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> "tigercat" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...


>
> Why ever did you put such a slow processor into a box with all that RAM
> and HD space?
>
> Not sure what a "value" license for Windows is-- but it sounds like you
> need a reformat/reinstall with a valid license number. If you paid by cash
> or check, you're probably screwed-- but if you paid by credit card, I'd
> dispute the charge to the card issuer, have them issue a charge back and
> tell the seller-- no stable operating system, no sale!!
>


I suspect it's not a 'Value' license, but a 'Volume' license - and one of
the ones that was touted around the internet 4 years ago for free. This
version was locked into an unpatched status as of the beginning of SP1,
unless the Key and ID were changed - and will still fail the WGA test today,
even after a change, unless reinstalled from a genuine disk with a genuine
key.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's


 
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tigercat
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      02-09-2006

"Noel Paton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:dse877$qqe$(E-Mail Removed)-infra.bt.com...
>
> "tigercat" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>I had a PC built for me; it's an Intel P4, 1.28 GhZ, with two Seagate
>>drives 300 Gig and 160 Gig, 1 Gig RAM, running Win XP Pro.
>>
>> Ever since I got the PC, the following programs crash periodically (not
>> all the time, just more than enough for a new PC):
>>
>> Internet Explorer, Firefox, Explorer
>>
>> Also, everytime I do a Windows Update it screws up my system and after
>> the updates complete, I can no longer "create a new folder" anywhere on
>> my PC.
>>
>> I also cannot download Mircosoft AntiSpyware as my O/S fails the MS
>> validation (due to my O/S being a Value Licensed version, something that
>> the guy who built my PC said he'd resolve).
>>
>> I was told by this PC guy that when he installed Corel and than
>> uninstalled it and installed MS Office 2003, and got some weird error
>> messages (which he thinks may be causing some of the problems now).
>>
>> When I look at the Error Logs in System Management there's a mess of
>> Warnings and Errors that also trouble me for such a new system.
>>
>> Anyway, I was wondering if anyone had any ideas about what may be causing
>> the bulk of my PC issues, especially not being able to create a New
>> Folder after running and installing Windows Updates?
>>
>> Any help is appreciated.
>>

>
>
> Since the guy who sold you the PC obviously sold it with a pirated copy of
> the OS installed, I suggest that you take up the matter with him - via
> either (E-Mail Removed) or
> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/h...k/default.mspx and
> https://www.microsoft.com/resources/...ts/report.aspx, or
> via the police or trading standards people in your area. In some parts of
> the world, people reporting pirated software, reading to a prosecution,
> are 'rewarded' by MS - with a legal copy of the software they reported.
>
> The software problem probably arises because your Windows XP is still at
> the 'Gold' state - because the pirated versions cannot be upgraded to SP2
> without spoofing a new Product key and ID, and the mismatch is then
> apparent to the validation tester (hence the failure of the WGA tool)
> Otherwise, I'd suspect a hardware problem - probably RAM mismatch or
> failure - download DocMemory from www.simmtester.com and create the boot
> disk. Use this to boot the PC, and run the test overnight to check the RAM
> thoroughly.
> See what it reports.
>
>
> --
> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>
> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>
> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's




Thanks for your help and suggestions.



>
>



 
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tigercat
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"Noel Paton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> "Special Ed" <ed@spl-edu> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> "tigercat" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...

>
>>
>> Why ever did you put such a slow processor into a box with all that RAM
>> and HD space?
>>
>> Not sure what a "value" license for Windows is-- but it sounds like you
>> need a reformat/reinstall with a valid license number. If you paid by
>> cash or check, you're probably screwed-- but if you paid by credit card,
>> I'd dispute the charge to the card issuer, have them issue a charge back
>> and tell the seller-- no stable operating system, no sale!!
>>

>
> I suspect it's not a 'Value' license, but a 'Volume' license - and one of
> the ones that was touted around the internet 4 years ago for free. This
> version was locked into an unpatched status as of the beginning of SP1,
> unless the Key and ID were changed - and will still fail the WGA test
> today, even after a change, unless reinstalled from a genuine disk with a
> genuine key.
>
> --
> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>
> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>
> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's




You're right it's a Volume License; but does that necessarily make the
version he gave me a pirated or illegal one?
>
>



 
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Toolman Tim
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      02-09-2006
In news:(E-Mail Removed),
tigercat spewed forth:
> "Noel Paton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:dse8e7$r9a$(E-Mail Removed)-infra.bt.com...
>>
>> "Special Ed" <ed@spl-edu> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> "tigercat" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...

>>
>>>
>>> Why ever did you put such a slow processor into a box with all that
>>> RAM and HD space?
>>>
>>> Not sure what a "value" license for Windows is-- but it sounds like
>>> you need a reformat/reinstall with a valid license number. If you
>>> paid by cash or check, you're probably screwed-- but if you paid by
>>> credit card, I'd dispute the charge to the card issuer, have them
>>> issue a charge back and tell the seller-- no stable operating
>>> system, no sale!!

>>
>> I suspect it's not a 'Value' license, but a 'Volume' license - and
>> one of the ones that was touted around the internet 4 years ago for
>> free. This version was locked into an unpatched status as of the
>> beginning of SP1, unless the Key and ID were changed - and will
>> still fail the WGA test today, even after a change, unless
>> reinstalled from a genuine disk with a genuine key.
>>
>> --
>> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>>
>> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
>> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>>
>> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
>> NG's

>
>
>
> You're right it's a Volume License; but does that necessarily make the
> version he gave me a pirated or illegal one?


Yes. Volume licensing is for corporations and is purchased in large
quantities (minimum is 5, if I remember correctly.) They are not for
'resale' or use on computers not installed in that corporations office.


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Plato
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      02-09-2006
tigercat wrote:
>
> I had a PC built for me; it's an Intel P4, 1.28 GhZ, with two Seagate drives
> 300 Gig and 160 Gig, 1 Gig RAM, running Win XP Pro.


Like some others said, why such an old processor? Perhaps you got
old/bad ram as well.



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      02-09-2006

"Plato" <|@|.|> wrote in message
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> tigercat wrote:
>>
>> I had a PC built for me; it's an Intel P4, 1.28 GhZ, with two Seagate
>> drives
>> 300 Gig and 160 Gig, 1 Gig RAM, running Win XP Pro.

>
> Like some others said, why such an old processor? Perhaps you got
> old/bad ram as well.


Intel P4 is "old", how do you rate P3 and lower then ?


 
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