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I need a small flat panel monitor and haven't been able to find one. It
needs to no be over 10 1/2" tall. If I can't find one to fit my needs,
would it be ok to lay the larger one down when not in use. Reason I ask
is I have roll top desk I'm using for 2nd computer and want it to be
able to shut the roll top and the computer won't be seen in the living
room. To me they just don't look good there.
L.D.

On Or About 1/29/2006 12:00:07 PM, Without Any Hesitation, L.D. Wrote
The Following:

> I need a small flat panel monitor and haven't been able to find one. It
> needs to no be over 10 1/2" tall. If I can't find one to fit my needs,
> would it be ok to lay the larger one down when not in use. Reason I ask
> is I have roll top desk I'm using for 2nd computer and want it to be
> able to shut the roll top and the computer won't be seen in the living
> room. To me they just don't look good there.
> L.D.

Just a wild guess but if when closing the lid on a laptop the screen
is laid flat. I therefore see no reason why a stand alone monitor
could not be laid down flat. (With extream caution of course)
--
Old Gringo
The Future Is Not What It Use To Be.
Freedom For The World http://www.NuBoy-Industries.com
1/29/2006 12:31:51 PM CT USA

On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 12:00:07 -0600, "L.D." <>
wrote:

>I need a small flat panel monitor and haven't been able to find one. It
>needs to no be over 10 1/2" tall. If I can't find one to fit my needs,
>would it be ok to lay the larger one down when not in use. Reason I ask
>is I have roll top desk I'm using for 2nd computer and want it to be
>able to shut the roll top and the computer won't be seen in the living
>room. To me they just don't look good there.
>L.D.
I have a small black and white unit that is part of my 286 IBM. Want
that?
--
"Politicians are like diapers. They should both be changed frequently
and for the same reason."

In news:1ji73d9plkeb0$.i6ndx3w3ked4$.,
Old Gringo spewed forth:
> On Or About 1/29/2006 12:00:07 PM, Without Any Hesitation, L.D. Wrote
> The Following:
>
>> I need a small flat panel monitor and haven't been able to find one.
>> It needs to no be over 10 1/2" tall. If I can't find one to fit my
>> needs, would it be ok to lay the larger one down when not in use.
>> Reason I ask is I have roll top desk I'm using for 2nd computer and
>> want it to be able to shut the roll top and the computer won't be
>> seen in the living room. To me they just don't look good there.
>> L.D.
>
> Just a wild guess but if when closing the lid on a laptop the screen
> is laid flat. I therefore see no reason why a stand alone monitor
> could not be laid down flat. (With extream caution of course)

Quite correct. Perhaps keeping a nice folded hand towel to lay it down on
would keep from scratching the surface...

--
If at first you don't succeed, redefine success.

"L.D." <> wrote in message
news:...
>I need a small flat panel monitor and haven't been able to find one. It
>needs to no be over 10 1/2" tall. If I can't find one to fit my needs,
>would it be ok to lay the larger one down when not in use. Reason I ask is
>I have roll top desk I'm using for 2nd computer and want it to be able to
>shut the roll top and the computer won't be seen in the living room. To me
>they just don't look good there.
> L.D.

If you are looking for one 10" or under, you will need to look at the motor
accessory suppliers. A lot of smaller monitors are used in auto's such as
http://cgi.ebay.com/8-TFT-LCD-AV-TV-...QQcmdZViewItem .
They come with a mains adaptor to use indoors but make sure they have a VGA
lead as some just have AV inputs.

On Or About 1/29/2006 1:42:24 PM, Without Any Hesitation, Toolman Tim
Wrote The Following:

> In news:1ji73d9plkeb0$.i6ndx3w3ked4$.,
> Old Gringo spewed forth:
>> On Or About 1/29/2006 12:00:07 PM, Without Any Hesitation, L.D. Wrote
>> The Following:
>>
>>> I need a small flat panel monitor and haven't been able to find one.
>>> It needs to no be over 10 1/2" tall. If I can't find one to fit my
>>> needs, would it be ok to lay the larger one down when not in use.
>>> Reason I ask is I have roll top desk I'm using for 2nd computer and
>>> want it to be able to shut the roll top and the computer won't be
>>> seen in the living room. To me they just don't look good there.
>>> L.D.
>>
>> Just a wild guess but if when closing the lid on a laptop the screen
>> is laid flat. I therefore see no reason why a stand alone monitor
>> could not be laid down flat. (With extream caution of course)
>
> Quite correct. Perhaps keeping a nice folded hand towel to lay it down on
> would keep from scratching the surface...

Totaly agree on that one. Toolman Tim, while you are hear. I have a
computer with WinXP Pro that seems to be running flawlessly with one
exceptlion. When trying to use my web cam with Yahoo IM, Skype etc.
The computer at random time intervals rainging from 2 min. to 30 min.
will freeze solid and only way out is reset. I have reinstalled and
reinstalled all drivers and made sure they were all current.
Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (build 2600) VIA
Technologies, Inc. KM400-8235
Enclosure Type: Desktop
Processor a Main Circuit Board b
1.67 gigahertz AMD Athlon XP
128 kilobyte primary memory cache
256 kilobyte secondary memory cache Board: KM400-8235
Bus Clock: 133 megahertz
BIOS: Phoenix Technologies, LTD 6.00 PG 05/31/2004
Drives Memory Modules c,d
40.02 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
27.78 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-W162L [CD-ROM drive]
3.5" format removeable media [Floppy drive]

WDC WD400BB-22JHA0 [Hard drive] (40.02 GB) -- drive 0, s/n
WD-WMAMC1012140, rev 05.01C05, SMART Status: Healthy 1024
Megabytes Installed Memory

Slot 'A0' has 1024 MB
Slot 'A1' is Empty
Local Drive Volumes


c: (NTFS on drive 0) 40.02 GB 27.78 GB free
Network Drives
None detected
Standard floppy disk controller
Primary IDE Channel [Controller]
Secondary IDE Channel [Controller]
VIA Bus Master IDE Controller Sapphire RADEON X700 [Display
adapter]
Sapphire RADEON X700 Secondary [Display adapter]
Sceptre 13.2 [Monitor] (13.2"vis, August 199
Bus Adapters Multimedia
VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller (3x)
VIA USB Enhanced Host Controller C-Media AC97 Audio Device
Logitech Microphone (Pro 4000)
Communications Other Devices

VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter
primary Auto IP Address: 69.150.192.26 / 24
Gateway: 69.150.192.27
Dhcp Server: 192.168.0.1
Physical Address: 00:11:5B:13:86:2E

Networking Dns Server: 192.168.0.1
HID-compliant device (2x)
USB Human Interface Device (2x)
Logitech QuickCam Pro 4000
Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
HID-compliant mouse
Logitech USB Camera (Pro 4000)
USB Composite Device
USB Root Hub (4x)
Virus Protection [Back to Top]
avast! antivirus 4.6.744 [VPS 0605-0] Version 4.6.744
Realtime File Scanning On

Had the exact problem when I was using Win98se on the same computer.
New OS and Video Card. Same problem as always. I thought new OS and
Video card would solve the problem. I have used EndItAll and only
run Skype and camera and still the same problem.
At Your Mercy
OG
--
Old Gringo
The Future Is Not What It Use To Be.
Freedom For The World http://www.NuBoy-Industries.com
1/29/2006 2:31:33 PM CT USA

In news:,
Old Gringo spewed forth:
> On Or About 1/29/2006 1:42:24 PM, Without Any Hesitation, Toolman Tim
> Wrote The Following:
>
>> In news:1ji73d9plkeb0$.i6ndx3w3ked4$.,
>> Old Gringo spewed forth:
>>> On Or About 1/29/2006 12:00:07 PM, Without Any Hesitation, L.D.
>>> Wrote The Following:
>>>
>>>> I need a small flat panel monitor and haven't been able to find
>>>> one. It needs to no be over 10 1/2" tall. If I can't find one to
>>>> fit my needs, would it be ok to lay the larger one down when not
>>>> in use. Reason I ask is I have roll top desk I'm using for 2nd
>>>> computer and want it to be able to shut the roll top and the
>>>> computer won't be seen in the living room. To me they just don't
>>>> look good there. L.D.
>>>
>>> Just a wild guess but if when closing the lid on a laptop the screen
>>> is laid flat. I therefore see no reason why a stand alone monitor
>>> could not be laid down flat. (With extream caution of course)
>>
>> Quite correct. Perhaps keeping a nice folded hand towel to lay it
>> down on would keep from scratching the surface...
>
> Totaly agree on that one. Toolman Tim, while you are hear. I have a
> computer with WinXP Pro that seems to be running flawlessly with one
> exceptlion. When trying to use my web cam with Yahoo IM, Skype etc.
> The computer at random time intervals rainging from 2 min. to 30 min.
> will freeze solid and only way out is reset. I have reinstalled and
> reinstalled all drivers and made sure they were all current.
> Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (build 2600) VIA
> Technologies, Inc. KM400-8235
> Enclosure Type: Desktop
> Processor a Main Circuit Board b
> 1.67 gigahertz AMD Athlon XP
> 128 kilobyte primary memory cache
> 256 kilobyte secondary memory cache Board: KM400-8235
> Bus Clock: 133 megahertz
> BIOS: Phoenix Technologies, LTD 6.00 PG 05/31/2004
> Drives Memory Modules c,d
> 40.02 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
> 27.78 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space
>
> TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-W162L [CD-ROM drive]
> 3.5" format removeable media [Floppy drive]
>
> WDC WD400BB-22JHA0 [Hard drive] (40.02 GB) -- drive 0, s/n
> WD-WMAMC1012140, rev 05.01C05, SMART Status: Healthy 1024
> Megabytes Installed Memory
>
> Slot 'A0' has 1024 MB
> Slot 'A1' is Empty
> Local Drive Volumes
>
>
> c: (NTFS on drive 0) 40.02 GB 27.78 GB free
> Network Drives
> None detected
> Standard floppy disk controller
> Primary IDE Channel [Controller]
> Secondary IDE Channel [Controller]
> VIA Bus Master IDE Controller Sapphire RADEON X700 [Display
> adapter]
> Sapphire RADEON X700 Secondary [Display adapter]
> Sceptre 13.2 [Monitor] (13.2"vis, August 199
> Bus Adapters Multimedia
> VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller (3x)
> VIA USB Enhanced Host Controller C-Media AC97 Audio Device
> Logitech Microphone (Pro 4000)
> Communications Other Devices
>
> VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter
> primary Auto IP Address: 69.150.192.26 / 24
> Gateway: 69.150.192.27
> Dhcp Server: 192.168.0.1
> Physical Address: 00:11:5B:13:86:2E
>
> Networking Dns Server: 192.168.0.1
> HID-compliant device (2x)
> USB Human Interface Device (2x)
> Logitech QuickCam Pro 4000
> Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
> HID-compliant mouse
> Logitech USB Camera (Pro 4000)
> USB Composite Device
> USB Root Hub (4x)
> Virus Protection [Back to Top]
> avast! antivirus 4.6.744 [VPS 0605-0] Version 4.6.744
> Realtime File Scanning On
>
> Had the exact problem when I was using Win98se on the same computer.
> New OS and Video Card. Same problem as always. I thought new OS and
> Video card would solve the problem. I have used EndItAll and only
> run Skype and camera and still the same problem.
> At Your Mercy
> OG

Best guess would be the USB port or camera. I've had similar experiences
with USB hardware. USB carries power - a fault in it's circuitry can easily
spike into the system locking a component that is seemingly unrelated.

Two inexpensive things I'd try: first, a powered USB hub. That might isolate
the camera from the system a little better. A camera fault might be stopped
at the hub. Second, an add-in USB card. If the fault is in the mainboard USB
ports, this could provide a workaround. No guarantees though. But since I'm
to the point now that it's impossible to have too many USB ports on my PC,
neither item would be considered a waste even if they don't solve the
problem <g>

--
If at first you don't succeed, redefine success.

On Or About 1/29/2006 3:08:53 PM, Without Any Hesitation, Toolman Tim
Wrote The Following:

> In news:,
> Old Gringo spewed forth:
>> On Or About 1/29/2006 1:42:24 PM, Without Any Hesitation, Toolman Tim
>> Wrote The Following:
>>
>>> In news:1ji73d9plkeb0$.i6ndx3w3ked4$.,
>>> Old Gringo spewed forth:
>>>> On Or About 1/29/2006 12:00:07 PM, Without Any Hesitation, L.D.
>>>> Wrote The Following:
>>>>
>>>>> I need a small flat panel monitor and haven't been able to find
>>>>> one. It needs to no be over 10 1/2" tall. If I can't find one to
>>>>> fit my needs, would it be ok to lay the larger one down when not
>>>>> in use. Reason I ask is I have roll top desk I'm using for 2nd
>>>>> computer and want it to be able to shut the roll top and the
>>>>> computer won't be seen in the living room. To me they just don't
>>>>> look good there. L.D.
>>>>
>>>> Just a wild guess but if when closing the lid on a laptop the screen
>>>> is laid flat. I therefore see no reason why a stand alone monitor
>>>> could not be laid down flat. (With extream caution of course)
>>>
>>> Quite correct. Perhaps keeping a nice folded hand towel to lay it
>>> down on would keep from scratching the surface...
>>
>> Totaly agree on that one. Toolman Tim, while you are hear. I have a
>> computer with WinXP Pro that seems to be running flawlessly with one
>> exceptlion. When trying to use my web cam with Yahoo IM, Skype etc.
>> The computer at random time intervals rainging from 2 min. to 30 min.
>> will freeze solid and only way out is reset. I have reinstalled and
>> reinstalled all drivers and made sure they were all current.
>> Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (build 2600) VIA
>> Technologies, Inc. KM400-8235
>> Enclosure Type: Desktop
>> Processor a Main Circuit Board b
>> 1.67 gigahertz AMD Athlon XP
>> 128 kilobyte primary memory cache
>> 256 kilobyte secondary memory cache Board: KM400-8235
>> Bus Clock: 133 megahertz
>> BIOS: Phoenix Technologies, LTD 6.00 PG 05/31/2004
>> Drives Memory Modules c,d
>> 40.02 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
>> 27.78 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space
>>
>> TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-W162L [CD-ROM drive]
>> 3.5" format removeable media [Floppy drive]
>>
>> WDC WD400BB-22JHA0 [Hard drive] (40.02 GB) -- drive 0, s/n
>> WD-WMAMC1012140, rev 05.01C05, SMART Status: Healthy 1024
>> Megabytes Installed Memory
>>
>> Slot 'A0' has 1024 MB
>> Slot 'A1' is Empty
>> Local Drive Volumes
>>
>>
>> c: (NTFS on drive 0) 40.02 GB 27.78 GB free
>> Network Drives
>> None detected
>> Standard floppy disk controller
>> Primary IDE Channel [Controller]
>> Secondary IDE Channel [Controller]
>> VIA Bus Master IDE Controller Sapphire RADEON X700 [Display
>> adapter]
>> Sapphire RADEON X700 Secondary [Display adapter]
>> Sceptre 13.2 [Monitor] (13.2"vis, August 199
>> Bus Adapters Multimedia
>> VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller (3x)
>> VIA USB Enhanced Host Controller C-Media AC97 Audio Device
>> Logitech Microphone (Pro 4000)
>> Communications Other Devices
>>
>> VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter
>> primary Auto IP Address: 69.150.192.26 / 24
>> Gateway: 69.150.192.27
>> Dhcp Server: 192.168.0.1
>> Physical Address: 00:11:5B:13:86:2E
>>
>> Networking Dns Server: 192.168.0.1
>> HID-compliant device (2x)
>> USB Human Interface Device (2x)
>> Logitech QuickCam Pro 4000
>> Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
>> HID-compliant mouse
>> Logitech USB Camera (Pro 4000)
>> USB Composite Device
>> USB Root Hub (4x)
>> Virus Protection [Back to Top]
>> avast! antivirus 4.6.744 [VPS 0605-0] Version 4.6.744
>> Realtime File Scanning On
>>
>> Had the exact problem when I was using Win98se on the same computer.
>> New OS and Video Card. Same problem as always. I thought new OS and
>> Video card would solve the problem. I have used EndItAll and only
>> run Skype and camera and still the same problem.
>> At Your Mercy
>> OG
>
> Best guess would be the USB port or camera. I've had similar experiences
> with USB hardware. USB carries power - a fault in it's circuitry can easily
> spike into the system locking a component that is seemingly unrelated.
>
> Two inexpensive things I'd try: first, a powered USB hub. That might isolate
> the camera from the system a little better. A camera fault might be stopped
> at the hub. Second, an add-in USB card. If the fault is in the mainboard USB
> ports, this could provide a workaround. No guarantees though. But since I'm
> to the point now that it's impossible to have too many USB ports on my PC,
> neither item would be considered a waste even if they don't solve the
> problem <g>

Thanks a million Toolman Tim, The above all sounds like a winner to
me. Will give it a try and see what happens. Tks again.
--
Old Gringo
The Future Is Not What It Use To Be.
Freedom For The World http://www.NuBoy-Industries.com
1/29/2006 4:37:36 PM CT USA

>>> Totaly agree on that one. Toolman Tim, while you are hear. I have
>>> a computer with WinXP Pro that seems to be running flawlessly with
>>> one exceptlion. When trying to use my web cam with Yahoo IM, Skype
>>> etc. The computer at random time intervals rainging from 2 min. to
>>> 30 min. will freeze solid and only way out is reset. I have
>>> reinstalled and reinstalled all drivers and made sure they were all
>>> current.
>>>
>>> Had the exact problem when I was using Win98se on the same computer.
>>> New OS and Video Card. Same problem as always. I thought new OS
>>> and Video card would solve the problem. I have used EndItAll and
>>> only run Skype and camera and still the same problem.
>>> At Your Mercy
>>> OG
>>
>> Best guess would be the USB port or camera. I've had similar
>> experiences with USB hardware. USB carries power - a fault in it's
>> circuitry can easily spike into the system locking a component that
>> is seemingly unrelated.
>>
>> Two inexpensive things I'd try: first, a powered USB hub. That might
>> isolate the camera from the system a little better. A camera fault
>> might be stopped at the hub. Second, an add-in USB card. If the
>> fault is in the mainboard USB ports, this could provide a
>> workaround. No guarantees though. But since I'm to the point now
>> that it's impossible to have too many USB ports on my PC, neither
>> item would be considered a waste even if they don't solve the
>> problem <g>
>
> Thanks a million Toolman Tim, The above all sounds like a winner to
> me. Will give it a try and see what happens. Tks again.

Good luck!

--
If at first you don't succeed, redefine success.

On Or About 1/29/2006 5:50:00 PM, Without Any Hesitation, Toolman Tim
Wrote The Following:

>>>> Totaly agree on that one. Toolman Tim, while you are hear. I have
>>>> a computer with WinXP Pro that seems to be running flawlessly with
>>>> one exceptlion. When trying to use my web cam with Yahoo IM, Skype
>>>> etc. The computer at random time intervals rainging from 2 min. to
>>>> 30 min. will freeze solid and only way out is reset. I have
>>>> reinstalled and reinstalled all drivers and made sure they were all
>>>> current.
>>>>
>>>> Had the exact problem when I was using Win98se on the same computer.
>>>> New OS and Video Card. Same problem as always. I thought new OS
>>>> and Video card would solve the problem. I have used EndItAll and
>>>> only run Skype and camera and still the same problem.
>>>> At Your Mercy
>>>> OG
>>>
>>> Best guess would be the USB port or camera. I've had similar
>>> experiences with USB hardware. USB carries power - a fault in it's
>>> circuitry can easily spike into the system locking a component that
>>> is seemingly unrelated.
>>>
>>> Two inexpensive things I'd try: first, a powered USB hub. That might
>>> isolate the camera from the system a little better. A camera fault
>>> might be stopped at the hub. Second, an add-in USB card. If the
>>> fault is in the mainboard USB ports, this could provide a
>>> workaround. No guarantees though. But since I'm to the point now
>>> that it's impossible to have too many USB ports on my PC, neither
>>> item would be considered a waste even if they don't solve the
>>> problem <g>
>>
>> Thanks a million Toolman Tim, The above all sounds like a winner to
>> me. Will give it a try and see what happens. Tks again.
>
> Good luck!

Thanks, this is what I ordered, hope it is what you ment.
http://tinyurl.com/8cpht TigerDirect.com
http://tinyurl.com/76b4v TigetDirect.com
Thanks again, will let you know in a couple of weeks.
OG
--
Old Gringo
The Future Is Not What It Use To Be.
Freedom For The World http://www.NuBoy-Industries.com
1/29/2006 5:54:22 PM CT USA