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Remmy
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      11-06-2005
Can open files.

"Mitch" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> In article <1131301614.834966@aragorn>, Remmy <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> > Doubt it is the router as I can still see the other computers from Win98
> > box, also other computers are not having this problem. Internet etc.

still
> > working fine on '98 Box. Multiple reboots of computers (not router fixes
> > problem)

>
> You can still see the other computers, or the computers and files
> merely APPEAR to be there?
> The proof is in being able to open a file on the other computer.



 
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Remmy
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      11-06-2005
Under normal conditions the router never gets powered down (I have power
cycled it many times in trouble shooting this problem).

Order the machines are booted doesn't not matter.

In everyday use there are usually only 2 machines on.
1. The Win '98 machine
2. On of the XP machines or the Mac.

Sometimes the problem is there other times everything is OK. If the problem
is there, or not and I turn on another machine the 98 box may or may not
connect to the new machine (even if it is /is not connecting to the first),
but I do see all computers listed in Network Neighborhood. I can ping all
computers. Internet and TCP/IP printing direct to printer works fine on '98
box.

"Mitch" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> In article <1131297752.132996@boromir>, Remmy <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
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> > We have a small peer to peer network setup with 4 computers. Two

computers
> > are running WinXP Pro, one is running Mac OSX, and the 4th is running

Win98
> > (we have a custom app running on the '98 box that will not run on XP).

>
> If you start up the various machines in the same sequence each time,
> and access them in the same sequence each time, does the same machine
> (the last one) remain inaccessible each time?
>
> Have you tried power cycling the router? Does the router get powered
> down differently now than it used to?



 
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Duane Arnold
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      11-06-2005
"Remmy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:1131303870.905359@faramir:

> The NIC is a few years old.
>
> Dont think it is a 'networking' problem persay. I think it is more of
> a permission problem.
> Remember that I when access is denied to one computer I can still
> access other computers.


I have seen stranger things when it comes to networking. You may want to do
a swap of NIC(s) and see if the problem follows. What can it hurt? Straws
are being grabbed at this point.

I still lean towards the concurrent connection problem, which you may want
to look into a little more. That's the only thing that makes sense.

Duane
 
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Remmy
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      11-06-2005
Dont think Mac OSX has this limitation, but I am having this problem
connecting to shares on Mac as well.

"Duane Arnold" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Remmy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:1131303870.905359@faramir:
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> > The NIC is a few years old.
> >
> > Dont think it is a 'networking' problem persay. I think it is more of
> > a permission problem.
> > Remember that I when access is denied to one computer I can still
> > access other computers.

>
> I have seen stranger things when it comes to networking. You may want to

do
> a swap of NIC(s) and see if the problem follows. What can it hurt? Straws
> are being grabbed at this point.
>
> I still lean towards the concurrent connection problem, which you may want
> to look into a little more. That's the only thing that makes sense.
>
> Duane



 
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TheNIGHTCRAWLER
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      11-08-2005
You should probably mention:
Firewalls.
Are you running the PC's as a "domain". If you don't know what that is,
you're not.
Is "Simple file sharing" enabled or disabled on any XP computer?
(Explorer>tools>folder options>view>bottom of the list)
Enabling multiple identities on XP creates complexities.
Using group policy on a multiple identity XP PC? OMG!

Check and see which identity is logged into Windows XP on any given
machine at reboot. I tempted this road intentionally once, I think this
will be the road to your fix. It's a disaster in a network.

I suspect a psycho-schizophrenic XP PC in your network. I backed away
myself when witnessing the madness involved tempting this fate.

I fixed an install today, simply by changing identities on just such a
problem. Both admin level access, only one had the right access to
install the program. And that was on a no access restriction computer.
From itself.

Should you insist on multiple identities on a single computer on a
shared network, God Rest Your Sanity, particularly should you ever
attempt to get into the nuts and bolts of it. Microsoft created the
ultimate split personality w/windows XP. It's just not that good at
sharing yet.

TheNIGHTCRAWLER
(I LIKE my sanity. I'm keeping it!




"Remmy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>We have a small peer to peer network setup with 4 computers. Two computers
>are running WinXP Pro, one is running Mac OSX, and the 4th is running Win98
>(we have a custom app running on the '98 box that will not run on XP).
>
>The network has been setup and working fine for years. Recently when
>browsing the network from the '98 box we can see (ping, etc...) the other
>computers listed in Network Neighborhood but sometimes can not access the
>resources. The message is
>
> "\\Mac (or other computer name) not accessible
>
>No permission to access resource."
>
>
>When this happens I can only see the name of the other computer in Network
>Neighborhood, but cant get a level lower to actually see the shared
>resources (printers & directories).
>
>
>This can happen trying to access the XP machines or the Mac. If one machine
>is not accessible the other still are (eg. I can access XP box A & the Mac,
>but not the XP box B, OR I can access both XP box A and B, but not the Mac,
>etc...)
>
>Rebooting the '98 box and the non accessible machine several times fixes the
>problem, but it will happen again either with the same machine, or different
>machines several days later (all computers are shut down at night, so
>basically it is hit or miss whether we will be able to connect to a
>particular machine when everything is started up cold).
>
>Boot order of the machines doesn't make a difference as the problem can
>happen even if just the '98 box and only one other computer are turned on.
>
>When a computer is not accessible to the '98 box it still is to the other
>computers.
>
>All firewalls have been disabled.
>
>I have deleted the PWL file on the 98 box and re-entered passwords for the
>shares.
>
>Any ideas on how to correct this would be appreciated as it has been working
>flawlessly for years. Nothing has changed on the '98 box and no software has
>been installed recently.
>
>TIA
>

 
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