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I've been installing/maintaining Microsoft server/client environments 6+
years. Although I'm just starting to take the tests for the MCSE, I thought
I could take the tests with minimal studying.

I failed the 70-270 test the first time (The Exam Cram 2 book is worthless
and I hate that they don't tell you what your score was, but that is a
different post all together), passed the test the second time. The key,
besides understanding the material, is that you need to think like
Microsoft.

I found myself answering the questions with answers that weren't options.
Like in the 70-216 sample question I have a scenario where the 2 of the 3
network segments can't get IP addresses through the router.

Being a Cisco guy, I say, heck configure the router with DHCP relay and then
they will get the info from the DHCP just fine. That's not an option in the
answers, Microsoft wants you to use Microsoft, so you install the relay
agent on each of the segments that is not getting their DHCP and yada, yada,
yada.

Know the material, hands on, reading (because hands on doesn't always give
you Microsoft's preferred way) and THINK like Microsoft! That's just my
opinion.

The Exam Cram Book did fine by me. I passed the 70-270 two
weeks ago. I must admit that I did use other sources as
well. I studied the Exam Cram book last.


>-----Original Message-----
>I've been installing/maintaining Microsoft server/client
environments 6+
>years. Although I'm just starting to take the tests for
the MCSE, I thought
>I could take the tests with minimal studying.
>
>I failed the 70-270 test the first time (The Exam Cram 2
book is worthless
>and I hate that they don't tell you what your score was,
but that is a
>different post all together), passed the test the second
time. The key,
>besides understanding the material, is that you need to
think like
>Microsoft.
>
>I found myself answering the questions with answers that
weren't options.
>Like in the 70-216 sample question I have a scenario
where the 2 of the 3
>network segments can't get IP addresses through the
router.
>
>Being a Cisco guy, I say, heck configure the router with
DHCP relay and then
>they will get the info from the DHCP just fine. That's
not an option in the
>answers, Microsoft wants you to use Microsoft, so you
install the relay
>agent on each of the segments that is not getting their
DHCP and yada, yada,
>yada.
>
>Know the material, hands on, reading (because hands on
doesn't always give
>you Microsoft's preferred way) and THINK like Microsoft!
That's just my
>opinion.
>
>
>
>.
>

Step off junya

--
Semper Fi & God Bless America,

Gary-US MCNGP #20

http://www.mcngp.tk
The MCNGP Team - We're here to help

"Kindly do the needful"

"licknlabia" <> wrote in message
news:...
> tru dat.
>
>
> "Jacen" <> wrote in message
> news:M2qdnS0FvsGzzI2iU-...
> I've been installing/maintaining Microsoft server/client environments 6+
> years. Although I'm just starting to take the tests for the MCSE, I
thought
> I could take the tests with minimal studying.
>
> I failed the 70-270 test the first time (The Exam Cram 2 book is worthless
> and I hate that they don't tell you what your score was, but that is a
> different post all together), passed the test the second time. The key,
> besides understanding the material, is that you need to think like
> Microsoft.
>
> I found myself answering the questions with answers that weren't options.
> Like in the 70-216 sample question I have a scenario where the 2 of the 3
> network segments can't get IP addresses through the router.
>
> Being a Cisco guy, I say, heck configure the router with DHCP relay and
then
> they will get the info from the DHCP just fine. That's not an option in
the
> answers, Microsoft wants you to use Microsoft, so you install the relay
> agent on each of the segments that is not getting their DHCP and yada,
yada,
> yada.
>
> Know the material, hands on, reading (because hands on doesn't always give
> you Microsoft's preferred way) and THINK like Microsoft! That's just my
> opinion.
>
>
>
>

another case of the man holdin a brotha down


"Jacen" <> wrote in message
news:M2qdnS0FvsGzzI2iU-...
> I've been installing/maintaining Microsoft server/client environments 6+
> years. Although I'm just starting to take the tests for the MCSE, I
thought
> I could take the tests with minimal studying.
>
> I failed the 70-270 test the first time (The Exam Cram 2 book is worthless
> and I hate that they don't tell you what your score was, but that is a
> different post all together), passed the test the second time. The key,
> besides understanding the material, is that you need to think like
> Microsoft.
>
> I found myself answering the questions with answers that weren't options.
> Like in the 70-216 sample question I have a scenario where the 2 of the 3
> network segments can't get IP addresses through the router.
>
> Being a Cisco guy, I say, heck configure the router with DHCP relay and
then
> they will get the info from the DHCP just fine. That's not an option in
the
> answers, Microsoft wants you to use Microsoft, so you install the relay
> agent on each of the segments that is not getting their DHCP and yada,
yada,
> yada.
>
> Know the material, hands on, reading (because hands on doesn't always give
> you Microsoft's preferred way) and THINK like Microsoft! That's just my
> opinion.
>
>
>

So, you suggested enabling DHCP relay on the router. Microsoft suggested
exactly the same - when we are talking about RRAS and relay agents. Where's
the difference?

"Jacen" <> wrote in message
news:M2qdnS0FvsGzzI2iU-...
> I've been installing/maintaining Microsoft server/client environments 6+
> years. Although I'm just starting to take the tests for the MCSE, I
thought
> I could take the tests with minimal studying.
>
> I failed the 70-270 test the first time (The Exam Cram 2 book is worthless
> and I hate that they don't tell you what your score was, but that is a
> different post all together), passed the test the second time. The key,
> besides understanding the material, is that you need to think like
> Microsoft.
>
> I found myself answering the questions with answers that weren't options.
> Like in the 70-216 sample question I have a scenario where the 2 of the 3
> network segments can't get IP addresses through the router.
>
> Being a Cisco guy, I say, heck configure the router with DHCP relay and
then
> they will get the info from the DHCP just fine. That's not an option in
the
> answers, Microsoft wants you to use Microsoft, so you install the relay
> agent on each of the segments that is not getting their DHCP and yada,
yada,
> yada.
>
> Know the material, hands on, reading (because hands on doesn't always give
> you Microsoft's preferred way) and THINK like Microsoft! That's just my
> opinion.
>
>
>

Hells yeth.

You know damn right!

--
Semper Fi & God Bless America,

Gary-US MCNGP #20

http://www.mcngp.tk
The MCNGP Team - We're here to help

"Kindly do the needful"

"Consultant" <> wrote in message
news:...
> another case of the man holdin a brotha down
>
>
> "Jacen" <> wrote in message
> news:M2qdnS0FvsGzzI2iU-...
> > I've been installing/maintaining Microsoft server/client environments 6+
> > years. Although I'm just starting to take the tests for the MCSE, I
> thought
> > I could take the tests with minimal studying.
> >
> > I failed the 70-270 test the first time (The Exam Cram 2 book is
worthless
> > and I hate that they don't tell you what your score was, but that is a
> > different post all together), passed the test the second time. The key,
> > besides understanding the material, is that you need to think like
> > Microsoft.
> >
> > I found myself answering the questions with answers that weren't
options.
> > Like in the 70-216 sample question I have a scenario where the 2 of the
3
> > network segments can't get IP addresses through the router.
> >
> > Being a Cisco guy, I say, heck configure the router with DHCP relay and
> then
> > they will get the info from the DHCP just fine. That's not an option in
> the
> > answers, Microsoft wants you to use Microsoft, so you install the relay
> > agent on each of the segments that is not getting their DHCP and yada,
> yada,
> > yada.
> >
> > Know the material, hands on, reading (because hands on doesn't always
give
> > you Microsoft's preferred way) and THINK like Microsoft! That's just my
> > opinion.
> >
> >
> >
>
>