MCSE....and what about job?

I'm certified from June 2002 as MCSE and MCDBA, but here
in Serbia (i hope someone of You know where it is )
there is a very difficult to find job because we are
still in samo kind of transition period and unemployment
is a normal thing.
I want to heare from You my certified partners, what kind
of situation is in yours country when we talk about jobs
after getting certified.

Greetings from Belgrade,Serbia

do you have any experience?


"kabilja" <> wrote in message
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> I'm certified from June 2002 as MCSE and MCDBA, but here
> in Serbia (i hope someone of You know where it is )
> there is a very difficult to find job because we are
> still in samo kind of transition period and unemployment
> is a normal thing.
> I want to heare from You my certified partners, what kind
> of situation is in yours country when we talk about jobs
> after getting certified.
>
> Greetings from Belgrade,Serbia

I do not have any experiance in work in some of our IT
companies and that's the main problem ( I'm 23years
old ).But when will I find people who are ready to risk
and offer me a job? And years from my certification are
passing.

>-----Original Message-----
>do you have any experience?
>
>
>"kabilja" <> wrote in message
>news:0fe701c34558$f5d3e890$...
>> I'm certified from June 2002 as MCSE and MCDBA, but
here
>> in Serbia (i hope someone of You know where it is )
>> there is a very difficult to find job because we are
>> still in samo kind of transition period and
unemployment
>> is a normal thing.
>> I want to heare from You my certified partners, what
kind
>> of situation is in yours country when we talk about
jobs
>> after getting certified.
>>
>> Greetings from Belgrade,Serbia
>
>
>.
>

with no experience, you are not likely to get anything, as there are tons of
people with plenty of experience out of work. your best bet is to pick up
some experience by doing volunteer work or something

"kabilja" <> wrote in message
news:88a401c3455d$04afc8d0$...
> I do not have any experiance in work in some of our IT
> companies and that's the main problem ( I'm 23years
> old ).But when will I find people who are ready to risk
> and offer me a job? And years from my certification are
> passing.
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >do you have any experience?
> >
> >
> >"kabilja" <> wrote in message
> >news:0fe701c34558$f5d3e890$...
> >> I'm certified from June 2002 as MCSE and MCDBA, but
> here
> >> in Serbia (i hope someone of You know where it is )
> >> there is a very difficult to find job because we are
> >> still in samo kind of transition period and
> unemployment
> >> is a normal thing.
> >> I want to heare from You my certified partners, what
> kind
> >> of situation is in yours country when we talk about
> jobs
> >> after getting certified.
> >>
> >> Greetings from Belgrade,Serbia
> >
> >
> >.
> >

"Check out India and Iraq" <> wrote
> NOTE: MICROSOFT NO LONGER REQUIRES THEIR PSS, MSCS, AND
> ROSS ENGINEERS TO HAVE CURRENT MCSEs.
No kidding? LOL. Is there an article on that somewhere?

The fact that they were forcing us to get our MCSEs in order to keep our
jobs was one of the final straws for me before I left MS (attempted to
escape the collective, as it were).

Did you work for Microsoft or did you work for Volt,
their IT/IS contractor?

Policies may have changed since then. A few years ago
they required everyone to get the NT4 before working
there.

Recently I interviewed and the MCSE 2K was not a
requirement. They can weed out folks in the
interviews...unless you are right out of college with
little experience.

>-----Original Message-----
>"Check out India and Iraq" <>
wrote
>> NOTE: MICROSOFT NO LONGER REQUIRES THEIR PSS, MSCS,
AND
>> ROSS ENGINEERS TO HAVE CURRENT MCSEs.
>No kidding? LOL. Is there an article on that somewhere?
>
>The fact that they were forcing us to get our MCSEs in
order to keep our
>jobs was one of the final straws for me before I left MS
(attempted to
>escape the collective, as it were).
>
>
>.
>

I remember those days....
I also remember the days where the CNE was the premier
cert...

Hmmm...to have what I am working on have value....

Well, China should have 1.5MM new MCSEs available to
replace us lazy American MCSEs at pennies on the dollar.
Just think how great it will be for the consumer when the
MCSE's yearly salary is less than the cost of a new brand-
name PC....

I think I may take up construction...

>I was working there before there were MCSEs. Then one
year it was stuck on
>our review sheets that we all had to get certified (on
our own time). The
>MCSE thing was more of a marketing ploy than a value-
added service: "All our
>technicians are MCSE certified", bah! Although having an
MCSE really had
>value then, half of our callers didn't even know what it
meant.