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Hello there.

I was looking over the MCSD for Microsoft .NET Certification Requirements
(http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mc...entsdotnet.asp) and saw
that in the “Courses� column course 2389: Programming with Microsoft ADO.NET
appeared multiple times.

This repetition of the course also appears on the training company's
literature. Now, I assumed it meant that this course was a pre-requisite (or
helpful) in aiding you to pass the exam but that you didn’t actually need to
sit through the course multiple times, once would be enough.

However, my training company has made out that I have to sit on the course
each time. I guess they’ve got it wrong, correct? They are saying I have to
do course 2389 three times!

Moving on to the next point, they seem to say that I have to sit on course
2363, Getting started with MS .NET for COBOL programmers, to pass exam
070-310 or 070-320. This seems complete weirdness, I have no interest in
COBOL! I have to pass one of these two exams to get the MCSD (they say) and
that means I need to do course 2363.

Please put me out my misery and confirm that the trainers are mad and they
have it all wrong?

Thanks a lot.
Mark
London, UK.

They are mad and they have it wrong.

Death from Above


"Markcub" <> wrote in message
news:C0DB46D9-17E4-4FBA-A15B-...
> Hello there.
>
> I was looking over the MCSD for Microsoft .NET Certification Requirements
> (http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mc...entsdotnet.asp) and
> saw
> that in the "Courses" column course 2389: Programming with Microsoft
> ADO.NET
> appeared multiple times.
>
> This repetition of the course also appears on the training company's
> literature. Now, I assumed it meant that this course was a pre-requisite
> (or
> helpful) in aiding you to pass the exam but that you didn't actually need
> to
> sit through the course multiple times, once would be enough.
>
> However, my training company has made out that I have to sit on the course
> each time. I guess they've got it wrong, correct? They are saying I have
> to
> do course 2389 three times!
>
> Moving on to the next point, they seem to say that I have to sit on course
> 2363, Getting started with MS .NET for COBOL programmers, to pass exam
> 070-310 or 070-320. This seems complete weirdness, I have no interest in
> COBOL! I have to pass one of these two exams to get the MCSD (they say)
> and
> that means I need to do course 2363.
>
> Please put me out my misery and confirm that the trainers are mad and they
> have it all wrong?
>
> Thanks a lot.
> Mark
> London, UK.

On Fri, 27 May 2005 03:39:27 -0700, "Markcub"
<> wrote:

>Hello there.
>
>I was looking over the MCSD for Microsoft .NET Certification Requirements
>(http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mc...entsdotnet.asp) and saw
>that in the “Courses” column course 2389: Programming with Microsoft ADO.NET
>appeared multiple times.
>
>This repetition of the course also appears on the training company's
>literature. Now, I assumed it meant that this course was a pre-requisite (or
>helpful) in aiding you to pass the exam but that you didn’t actually need to
>sit through the course multiple times, once would be enough.
>
>However, my training company has made out that I have to sit on the course
>each time. I guess they’ve got it wrong, correct? They are saying I have to
>do course 2389 three times!
>
>Moving on to the next point, they seem to say that I have to sit on course
>2363, Getting started with MS .NET for COBOL programmers, to pass exam
>070-310 or 070-320. This seems complete weirdness, I have no interest in
>COBOL! I have to pass one of these two exams to get the MCSD (they say) and
>that means I need to do course 2363.
>
>Please put me out my misery and confirm that the trainers are mad and they
>have it all wrong?
>
>Thanks a lot.
>Mark
>London, UK.
I'm MCAD and I took ADO.NET once and the COBOL one never. It's the
training company trying to con you out of more money. Who are they
anyway?

OK,
First of all, did you pay all by yourself?
If yes, forget training school, you just need some books from Amazon to pass
the exam.
If no, and your company pay your hrs in training school, who cares. In face,
some training school have some nice babes at the front desk
Egghead
"Markcub" <> wrote in message
news:C0DB46D9-17E4-4FBA-A15B-...
> Hello there.
>
> I was looking over the MCSD for Microsoft .NET Certification Requirements
> (http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mc...entsdotnet.asp) and
saw
> that in the "Courses" column course 2389: Programming with Microsoft
ADO.NET
> appeared multiple times.
>
> This repetition of the course also appears on the training company's
> literature. Now, I assumed it meant that this course was a pre-requisite
(or
> helpful) in aiding you to pass the exam but that you didn't actually need
to
> sit through the course multiple times, once would be enough.
>
> However, my training company has made out that I have to sit on the course
> each time. I guess they've got it wrong, correct? They are saying I have
to
> do course 2389 three times!
>
> Moving on to the next point, they seem to say that I have to sit on course
> 2363, Getting started with MS .NET for COBOL programmers, to pass exam
> 070-310 or 070-320. This seems complete weirdness, I have no interest in
> COBOL! I have to pass one of these two exams to get the MCSD (they say)
and
> that means I need to do course 2363.
>
> Please put me out my misery and confirm that the trainers are mad and they
> have it all wrong?
>
> Thanks a lot.
> Mark
> London, UK.

Ah good. )

Next question... As you only do one exam from each stage as it were, you
don't have to sit on on courses for exams you are not going to sit? I think I
should change my training company. i.e. Second stage "Windows Application
Development (1 Exam required). If I chose to do Exam 70-306 instead of Exam
70-316, I would only have to do the courses realated to 306 and not 316.

I know this sounds insane, that's what I thought!

Mark.

"Death from Above" wrote:

> They are mad and they have it wrong.
>
> Death from Above
>
>
> "Markcub" <> wrote in message
> news:C0DB46D9-17E4-4FBA-A15B-...
> > Hello there.
> >
> > I was looking over the MCSD for Microsoft .NET Certification Requirements
> > (http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mc...entsdotnet.asp) and
> > saw
> > that in the "Courses" column course 2389: Programming with Microsoft
> > ADO.NET
> > appeared multiple times.
> >
> > This repetition of the course also appears on the training company's
> > literature. Now, I assumed it meant that this course was a pre-requisite
> > (or
> > helpful) in aiding you to pass the exam but that you didn't actually need
> > to
> > sit through the course multiple times, once would be enough.
> >
> > However, my training company has made out that I have to sit on the course
> > each time. I guess they've got it wrong, correct? They are saying I have
> > to
> > do course 2389 three times!
> >
> > Moving on to the next point, they seem to say that I have to sit on course
> > 2363, Getting started with MS .NET for COBOL programmers, to pass exam
> > 070-310 or 070-320. This seems complete weirdness, I have no interest in
> > COBOL! I have to pass one of these two exams to get the MCSD (they say)
> > and
> > that means I need to do course 2363.
> >
> > Please put me out my misery and confirm that the trainers are mad and they
> > have it all wrong?
> >
> > Thanks a lot.
> > Mark
> > London, UK.
>
>
>

What I would do if I were you would be to only take the courses that
Microsoft reccomends for the exams you wish to pass. See the following link
for the MCSD requirements and the suggested courses:

http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mc...entsdotnet.asp

Death from Above



"Markcub" <> wrote in message
news:B1C648BC-2D87-4AE6-9F10-...
> Ah good. )
>
> Next question... As you only do one exam from each stage as it were, you
> don't have to sit on on courses for exams you are not going to sit? I
> think I
> should change my training company. i.e. Second stage "Windows Application
> Development (1 Exam required). If I chose to do Exam 70-306 instead of
> Exam
> 70-316, I would only have to do the courses realated to 306 and not 316.
>
> I know this sounds insane, that's what I thought!
>
> Mark.
>
> "Death from Above" wrote:
>
>> They are mad and they have it wrong.
>>
>> Death from Above
>>
>>
>> "Markcub" <> wrote in message
>> news:C0DB46D9-17E4-4FBA-A15B-...
>> > Hello there.
>> >
>> > I was looking over the MCSD for Microsoft .NET Certification
>> > Requirements
>> > (http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mc...entsdotnet.asp) and
>> > saw
>> > that in the "Courses" column course 2389: Programming with Microsoft
>> > ADO.NET
>> > appeared multiple times.
>> >
>> > This repetition of the course also appears on the training company's
>> > literature. Now, I assumed it meant that this course was a
>> > pre-requisite
>> > (or
>> > helpful) in aiding you to pass the exam but that you didn't actually
>> > need
>> > to
>> > sit through the course multiple times, once would be enough.
>> >
>> > However, my training company has made out that I have to sit on the
>> > course
>> > each time. I guess they've got it wrong, correct? They are saying I
>> > have
>> > to
>> > do course 2389 three times!
>> >
>> > Moving on to the next point, they seem to say that I have to sit on
>> > course
>> > 2363, Getting started with MS .NET for COBOL programmers, to pass exam
>> > 070-310 or 070-320. This seems complete weirdness, I have no interest
>> > in
>> > COBOL! I have to pass one of these two exams to get the MCSD (they say)
>> > and
>> > that means I need to do course 2363.
>> >
>> > Please put me out my misery and confirm that the trainers are mad and
>> > they
>> > have it all wrong?
>> >
>> > Thanks a lot.
>> > Mark
>> > London, UK.
>>
>>
>>

Print out the MCSD requirements web page and bring it with you the next time
you speak with them. Explain that your intention is to acquire a MCSD
certification following a short and economical path. If they still cannot
provide an adequite explanation, then find another training center.

"Markcub" <> wrote in message
news:C0DB46D9-17E4-4FBA-A15B-...
> Hello there.
>
> I was looking over the MCSD for Microsoft .NET Certification Requirements
> (http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mc...entsdotnet.asp) and
> saw
> that in the "Courses" column course 2389: Programming with Microsoft
> ADO.NET
> appeared multiple times.
>
> This repetition of the course also appears on the training company's
> literature. Now, I assumed it meant that this course was a pre-requisite
> (or
> helpful) in aiding you to pass the exam but that you didn't actually need
> to
> sit through the course multiple times, once would be enough.
>
> However, my training company has made out that I have to sit on the course
> each time. I guess they've got it wrong, correct? They are saying I have
> to
> do course 2389 three times!
>
> Moving on to the next point, they seem to say that I have to sit on course
> 2363, Getting started with MS .NET for COBOL programmers, to pass exam
> 070-310 or 070-320. This seems complete weirdness, I have no interest in
> COBOL! I have to pass one of these two exams to get the MCSD (they say)
> and
> that means I need to do course 2363.
>
> Please put me out my misery and confirm that the trainers are mad and they
> have it all wrong?
>
> Thanks a lot.
> Mark
> London, UK.

Forget the MOC courses. Unless you're an absolute beginner to programming,
these are all the books that you really need for the certification.

MCAD VB.net track books (70-3xx are the exam numbers)
70-305 : http://tinyurl.com/56cmr
70-306 : http://tinyurl.com/5hapf
70-310 : http://tinyurl.com/52oav
Errata : http://www.larkware.com/TGErrata.txt

MCAD C# track books (70-3xx are the exam numbers)
70-315 : http://tinyurl.com/4rhh7
70-316 : http://tinyurl.com/64coq
70-320 : http://tinyurl.com/6oeo4

These two books are recommended for learning ADO.net and ASP.net
ADO.Net Book : http://tinyurl.com/5fad9
Asp.net Unleashed : http://tinyurl.com/6ch54

Good luck !

"Markcub" wrote:

> Hello there.
>
> I was looking over the MCSD for Microsoft .NET Certification Requirements
> (http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mc...entsdotnet.asp) and saw
> that in the “Courses� column course 2389: Programming with Microsoft ADO.NET
> appeared multiple times.
>
> This repetition of the course also appears on the training company's
> literature. Now, I assumed it meant that this course was a pre-requisite (or
> helpful) in aiding you to pass the exam but that you didn’t actually need to
> sit through the course multiple times, once would be enough.
>
> However, my training company has made out that I have to sit on the course
> each time. I guess they’ve got it wrong, correct? They are saying I have to
> do course 2389 three times!
>
> Moving on to the next point, they seem to say that I have to sit on course
> 2363, Getting started with MS .NET for COBOL programmers, to pass exam
> 070-310 or 070-320. This seems complete weirdness, I have no interest in
> COBOL! I have to pass one of these two exams to get the MCSD (they say) and
> that means I need to do course 2363.
>
> Please put me out my misery and confirm that the trainers are mad and they
> have it all wrong?
>
> Thanks a lot.
> Mark
> London, UK.