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This is an abbreviated question on the Transcender prep exam for 70-305:
Which of the following tools can be used to install an assembly into the
GAC?

Gacutil.exe
Windows Installer
ngen.exe
others are listed on the real question

The transcender answer is just Gacutil.exe and Windows Installer. But
ngen.exe, as we all know, creates a native image from an assembly and
installs it into the native image cache area of the GAC. So I think
ngen.exe should also be an answer.

If I get this on the real test, right now I don't know what to answer. Is
this a Transcender error or is the real test this tricky (or maybe error
prone?)

How should this question be answered in the real test?
Thanks,
T

tin man, don't ever talk to me about the worth of practice exams and
being able to 'memorize' things.

On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 08:54:11 -0800, "Tin Man"
<> wrote:

>This is an abbreviated question on the Transcender prep exam for 70-305:
>Which of the following tools can be used to install an assembly into the
>GAC?
>
>Gacutil.exe
>Windows Installer
>ngen.exe
>others are listed on the real question
>
>The transcender answer is just Gacutil.exe and Windows Installer. But
>ngen.exe, as we all know, creates a native image from an assembly and
>installs it into the native image cache area of the GAC. So I think
>ngen.exe should also be an answer.
>
>If I get this on the real test, right now I don't know what to answer. Is
>this a Transcender error or is the real test this tricky (or maybe error
>prone?)
>
>How should this question be answered in the real test?
>Thanks,
>T
>
>
>


Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

"Tin Man" <> wrote in message
news:...
> This is an abbreviated question on the Transcender prep exam for 70-305:
> Which of the following tools can be used to install an assembly into the
> GAC?
>
> Gacutil.exe
> Windows Installer
> ngen.exe
> others are listed on the real question
>
> The transcender answer is just Gacutil.exe and Windows Installer. But
> ngen.exe, as we all know, creates a native image from an assembly and
> installs it into the native image cache area of the GAC. So I think
> ngen.exe should also be an answer.

I think if they were asking how to add an assembly to the native assembly
cache as opposed to the GAC in general, they would have specified this. The
native assembly cache is a separate part of the GAC, so unless they
specifically mention that this is where the assembly is going, you should
assume they mean the GAC where uncompiled assemblies go.

The key to questions like this in these exams is to take the question as
literally as possible. If the question doesn't mention native images, a tool
that specialises in native images is unlikely to be the answer they're
looking for. Really, what you need to ask yourself when faced with a
question like this isn't "what utilities can install assemblies into the
GAC?", but "what answer are they angling for?". Inspecting the wording of
the question will usually help you work out what they were thinking of
(except when it doesn't, and then you're really left scratching your head!
.

HTH!


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Your participation in this forum may be entertainment for you but it
dramatically lowers the value of the forum for others. Your comments are
never informative and always intended to trivialize the original posters
question.

I think ngen should be one of the choices so it looks like a bad question
(or answer? to me)
G

"The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere" <.@> wrote in message
news:...
> tin man, don't ever talk to me about the worth of practice exams and
> being able to 'memorize' things.
>
> On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 08:54:11 -0800, "Tin Man"
> <> wrote:
>
>>This is an abbreviated question on the Transcender prep exam for 70-305:
>>Which of the following tools can be used to install an assembly into the
>>GAC?
>>
>>Gacutil.exe
>>Windows Installer
>>ngen.exe
>>others are listed on the real question
>>
>>The transcender answer is just Gacutil.exe and Windows Installer. But
>>ngen.exe, as we all know, creates a native image from an assembly and
>>installs it into the native image cache area of the GAC. So I think
>>ngen.exe should also be an answer.
>>
>>If I get this on the real test, right now I don't know what to answer. Is
>>this a Transcender error or is the real test this tricky (or maybe error
>>prone?)
>>
>>How should this question be answered in the real test?
>>Thanks,
>>T
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

Thanks for the input. I guess they do this in order to make the test harder
and that must be because the subject matter is just not hard enough sans
these kinds of questions.
T

"Emma Burrows" <> wrote in message
news:eY6$...
> "Tin Man" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> This is an abbreviated question on the Transcender prep exam for 70-305:
>> Which of the following tools can be used to install an assembly into the
>> GAC?
>>
>> Gacutil.exe
>> Windows Installer
>> ngen.exe
>> others are listed on the real question
>>
>> The transcender answer is just Gacutil.exe and Windows Installer. But
>> ngen.exe, as we all know, creates a native image from an assembly and
>> installs it into the native image cache area of the GAC. So I think
>> ngen.exe should also be an answer.
>
> I think if they were asking how to add an assembly to the native assembly
> cache as opposed to the GAC in general, they would have specified this.
> The
> native assembly cache is a separate part of the GAC, so unless they
> specifically mention that this is where the assembly is going, you should
> assume they mean the GAC where uncompiled assemblies go.
>
> The key to questions like this in these exams is to take the question as
> literally as possible. If the question doesn't mention native images, a
> tool
> that specialises in native images is unlikely to be the answer they're
> looking for. Really, what you need to ask yourself when faced with a
> question like this isn't "what utilities can install assemblies into the
> GAC?", but "what answer are they angling for?". Inspecting the wording of
> the question will usually help you work out what they were thinking of
> (except when it doesn't, and then you're really left scratching your head!
> .
>
> HTH!
>
>
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>
>

>always intended to trivialize the original posters
>question.

I could never 'trivialize the original posters question'. They do that
for all by themselves.

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

"Tin Man" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Thanks for the input. I guess they do this in order to make the test
harder
> and that must be because the subject matter is just not hard enough sans
> these kinds of questions.

It's probably not even a deliberate thing; the person writing the question
is no doubt thinking "GACutil" and it doesn't occur to them that ngen might
get a look in. Still, I'm hoping 140 minutes is enough time to carefully
unpick questions like this. I'm doing the C# version of this exam next week.
I'm confident that I know the actual subject matter, but I'm always afraid
I'll misunderstand a question (which raises the question of how useful the
exams are as an assessment of skills, but that's another matter entirely .


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> installs it into the native image cache area of the GAC.

The native image cache (NIC) is NOT an 'area' of the GAC. The NIC is
completely seperate. As is the download cache. An assembly that is not in
the GAC can have a native image in the NIC. Fusion will find the native
image and use it even if the assembly being loaded is not in the GAC.

So the answer from Transcender is the correct one.

See these links for more info:
http://pluralsight.com/blogs/craig/a...06/27/832.aspx
http://weblogs.asp.net/mflanagan/arc...19/115918.aspx

Death from Above



"Tin Man" <> wrote in message
news:...
> This is an abbreviated question on the Transcender prep exam for 70-305:
> Which of the following tools can be used to install an assembly into the
> GAC?
>
> Gacutil.exe
> Windows Installer
> ngen.exe
> others are listed on the real question
>
> The transcender answer is just Gacutil.exe and Windows Installer. But
> ngen.exe, as we all know, creates a native image from an assembly and
> installs it into the native image cache area of the GAC. So I think
> ngen.exe should also be an answer.
>
> If I get this on the real test, right now I don't know what to answer. Is
> this a Transcender error or is the real test this tricky (or maybe error
> prone?)
>
> How should this question be answered in the real test?
> Thanks,
> T
>
>
>
>

type in "Native Image Cache" and docs on ngen.exe should rank #1 click on
that and read....

The Native Image Generator creates a native image from a managed assembly
and installs it into the native image cache on the local computer. The
native image cache is a reserved area of the global assembly cache.

anyway, this is kind of a nitpick discussion but it can matter when someone
has to answer a test question
G



"Death from Above" <> wrote in message
news:...
>> installs it into the native image cache area of the GAC.
>
> The native image cache (NIC) is NOT an 'area' of the GAC. The NIC is
> completely seperate. As is the download cache. An assembly that is not
> in the GAC can have a native image in the NIC. Fusion will find the
> native image and use it even if the assembly being loaded is not in the
> GAC.
>
> So the answer from Transcender is the correct one.
>
> See these links for more info:
> http://pluralsight.com/blogs/craig/a...06/27/832.aspx
> http://weblogs.asp.net/mflanagan/arc...19/115918.aspx
>
> Death from Above
>
>
>
> "Tin Man" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> This is an abbreviated question on the Transcender prep exam for 70-305:
>> Which of the following tools can be used to install an assembly into the
>> GAC?
>>
>> Gacutil.exe
>> Windows Installer
>> ngen.exe
>> others are listed on the real question
>>
>> The transcender answer is just Gacutil.exe and Windows Installer. But
>> ngen.exe, as we all know, creates a native image from an assembly and
>> installs it into the native image cache area of the GAC. So I think
>> ngen.exe should also be an answer.
>>
>> If I get this on the real test, right now I don't know what to answer.
>> Is this a Transcender error or is the real test this tricky (or maybe
>> error prone?)
>>
>> How should this question be answered in the real test?
>> Thanks,
>> T
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

I took the real 70-305 on Friday and passed it. It was way easier than the
Transcender prep tests. There were no questions I would consider trick.
Now I'm going to rush back and take the Windows Forms test before all of
this .net trivia runs out my ears.

I suppose Transcender did their job by making their tests unrealistically
difficult except that they may scare some people from taking the real test.
T


"Emma Burrows" <> wrote in message
news:...
> "Tin Man" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Thanks for the input. I guess they do this in order to make the test
> harder
>> and that must be because the subject matter is just not hard enough sans
>> these kinds of questions.
>
> It's probably not even a deliberate thing; the person writing the question
> is no doubt thinking "GACutil" and it doesn't occur to them that ngen
> might
> get a look in. Still, I'm hoping 140 minutes is enough time to carefully
> unpick questions like this. I'm doing the C# version of this exam next
> week.
> I'm confident that I know the actual subject matter, but I'm always afraid
> I'll misunderstand a question (which raises the question of how useful the
> exams are as an assessment of skills, but that's another matter entirely
> .
>
>
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