Did VC++ dead ?

I am a beginner in VC++. I Like VC++ very much.But many
says that "vc++ is dead and no one uses it".is it true?
Does Microsoft provides any certification on VC++?

Does MCSD contains VC++?

Should i learn VC++ or VB.NET.

Does VC++.NET is entirly diffrent fron VC++ 6.0 ?

Pleae gives answer to these quetions.

Anand

Anand wrote:

> I am a beginner in VC++. I Like VC++ very much.But many
> says that "vc++ is dead and no one uses it".is it true?

No, it's far from dead. Lots of companies still use it.

> Does Microsoft provides any certification on VC++?

No, not at this time.

> Does MCSD contains VC++?

Only the old MCSD has VC++. This might change next year because C++ is
getting much better in 2005. C++ is supported in VS 2003, but it isn't
very popular. They're beefing it up for 2005, to include more
optimizations and more advanced features.

> Should i learn VC++ or VB.NET.

I would pick C# if you have a backgroud in C++. There's a lot of common
ground here.

> Does VC++.NET is entirly diffrent fron VC++ 6.0 ?

The C++ language is the same, but the .NET Framework is quite different
from ATL or MFC. This is where the big learning curve is.

Many companies prefer C# now, over C++. This might be your best bet.
The thing that companies don't like about C++ in .NET is that you can
still write unmanaged code, and this is considered "dangerous". C# is
considered "more modern" and "safer", but is not considered to be
"better" in all ways.

C++ will still be the best for low-level things like writing operating
systems, compilers, device drivers, etc.

Eric

Eric

>This might be your best bet.
>The thing that companies don't like about C++ in .NET is that you can
>still write unmanaged code, and this is considered "dangerous".

utter crap.

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere

>Does VC++.NET is entirly diffrent fron VC++ 6.0 ?

read the product documentation lately?

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere

The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere wrote:

> > This might be your best bet.
> > The thing that companies don't like about C++ in .NET is that you
> > can still write unmanaged code, and this is considered "dangerous".
>
> utter crap.
>
> Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

Hi Kline. I see that you didn't get a friendly disposition for
Christmas? I was hoping

Eric

Eric

>> > This might be your best bet.
>> > The thing that companies don't like about C++ in .NET is that you
>> > can still write unmanaged code, and this is considered "dangerous".
>>
>> utter crap.
>>
>> Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
>
>Hi Kline. I see that you didn't get a friendly disposition for
>Christmas? I was hoping

<humbug>
what is considered 'dangerous' in IT, are the incompetent morons who
believe the most important action in software development is choosing
the development tool which will be used to 'produce' the software.

As far as ' unmanaged code', produced with C++ goes, it is only
'dangerous' when used by people who do not understand what they are
doing. It's rather like letting some when loose with a hunting rifle
when they've never even owned a toy gun.
</humbug>

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere

The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere wrote:

> As far as ' unmanaged code', produced with C++ goes, it is only
> 'dangerous' when used by people who do not understand what they are
> doing. It's rather like letting some when loose with a hunting rifle
> when they've never even owned a toy gun.

I understand, and I still like C++ myself. .NET still can't touch it in
terms of performance, especially when you need low-level access to
memory structures, I/O, and that kind of thing.

I hard the C++ that comes in VS 2005 will have lots of improvements,
and will even optimize managed code better than C#.

I don't expect to see people move away from C#, but C++ may be used
more for specialized code where it's benefits will be the greatest.

Eric

Eric

>I hard the C++ that comes in VS 2005 will have lots of improvements,
>and will even optimize managed code better than C#.

indeed. You find the recent articles in dr dobb's worth a read.

>I don't expect to see people move away from C#, but C++ may be used
>more for specialized code where it's benefits will be the greatest.

C++ is the best general purpose programming language available today;
it's not just for writing 'specialized code'.

Having said that, the dot net framework is an excellent for developing
windows based systems.

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere