All you wanted to know about MCP/ MCAD / MCSD but where afraid to ask

Kline and Jar are the only people i reckon who have read the FAQs in past
but what the heck... here it goes. Will try to update with a few extra links

if you are a beginner and think that MCAD or MCSD will look good on you !!!
hold you guns... lapel pins okay... but i havent used it till date..
get yourself .net sdk at
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...&DisplayLang=en

for info on visual studio
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/

if you to try the new Visual studio 2005 tools.. express products are here
just for you.. help yourself.
http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/vs2005/

Now one you know in's and out's of programming ... on to certification..

Basic info on what MCP/MCAD/MCSD is
http://www.microsoft.com/learning/

pointers to the right places...
MCP.. you give one exam you become MCP
http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcp/default.asp

MCAD.. do 3 select MCP exmas and you become MCAD
http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcad/default.asp

MCSD.. do all the required MCPs for a particular stream and you become MCSD
http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcsd/default.asp

For .NET certification(s) MCP/ MCAD/ MCSD:
you have 55 questions
passing score is 700 of 1000
its a 2 hour exam (plus 15 mins for tutorial + 15 for comments)
it costs 103.something GBP in uk...
you can find out the cost for your country at
www.2test.com

Also... you can take the exam in any order.. start with elective or a core
MCP.
the only requirement is that you do the least number of MCPs required for
your cert

If you program in C#.. get Amit Kalani's stuff... its not too bad... infact
i am doing my 70-320 with this book and it all looks good so far.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...445228-0087606

if you want MS training material...
http://www.microsoft.com/learning/Books/default.asp

Please dont request dumps and or training material or information to be
emailed to you. if you are smart enough to finish a newsgroup to spam then
please remember that google is your best friend. first find out what mcad /
mcsd is.

--

Regards,

Hermit Dave
(http://hdave.blogspot.com)

Hermit Dave

I couldn't have said it better!

--
Lateralus [MCAD]


"Hermit Dave" <> wrote in message
news:OFGw%...
> Kline and Jar are the only people i reckon who have read the FAQs in past
> but what the heck... here it goes. Will try to update with a few extra
> links
>
> if you are a beginner and think that MCAD or MCSD will look good on you
> !!!
> hold you guns... lapel pins okay... but i havent used it till date..
> get yourself .net sdk at
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...&DisplayLang=en
>
> for info on visual studio
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/
>
> if you to try the new Visual studio 2005 tools.. express products are here
> just for you.. help yourself.
> http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/vs2005/
>
> Now one you know in's and out's of programming ... on to certification..
>
> Basic info on what MCP/MCAD/MCSD is
> http://www.microsoft.com/learning/
>
> pointers to the right places...
> MCP.. you give one exam you become MCP
> http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcp/default.asp
>
> MCAD.. do 3 select MCP exmas and you become MCAD
> http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcad/default.asp
>
> MCSD.. do all the required MCPs for a particular stream and you become
> MCSD
> http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcsd/default.asp
>
> For .NET certification(s) MCP/ MCAD/ MCSD:
> you have 55 questions
> passing score is 700 of 1000
> its a 2 hour exam (plus 15 mins for tutorial + 15 for comments)
> it costs 103.something GBP in uk...
> you can find out the cost for your country at
> www.2test.com
>
> Also... you can take the exam in any order.. start with elective or a core
> MCP.
> the only requirement is that you do the least number of MCPs required for
> your cert
>
> If you program in C#.. get Amit Kalani's stuff... its not too bad...
> infact
> i am doing my 70-320 with this book and it all looks good so far.
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...445228-0087606
>
> if you want MS training material...
> http://www.microsoft.com/learning/Books/default.asp
>
> Please dont request dumps and or training material or information to be
> emailed to you. if you are smart enough to finish a newsgroup to spam then
> please remember that google is your best friend. first find out what mcad
> /
> mcsd is.
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Hermit Dave
> (http://hdave.blogspot.com)
>
>

Lateralus [MCAD]

Seeing the types of questions posted here, I doubt very
much those type of people can read
>-----Original Message-----
>Kline and Jar are the only people i reckon who have read
the FAQs in past
>but what the heck... here it goes. Will try to update
with a few extra links
>
>if you are a beginner and think that MCAD or MCSD will
look good on you !!!
>hold you guns... lapel pins okay... but i havent used it
till date..
>get yourself .net sdk at
>http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...&DisplayLang=en
>
>for info on visual studio
>http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/
>
>if you to try the new Visual studio 2005 tools.. express
products are here
>just for you.. help yourself.
>http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/vs2005/
>
>Now one you know in's and out's of programming ... on to
certification..
>
>Basic info on what MCP/MCAD/MCSD is
>http://www.microsoft.com/learning/
>
>pointers to the right places...
>MCP.. you give one exam you become MCP
>http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcp/default.asp
>
>MCAD.. do 3 select MCP exmas and you become MCAD
>http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcad/default.asp
>
>MCSD.. do all the required MCPs for a particular stream
and you become MCSD
>http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcsd/default.asp
>
>For .NET certification(s) MCP/ MCAD/ MCSD:
>you have 55 questions
>passing score is 700 of 1000
>its a 2 hour exam (plus 15 mins for tutorial + 15 for
comments)
>it costs 103.something GBP in uk...
>you can find out the cost for your country at
>www.2test.com
>
>Also... you can take the exam in any order.. start with
elective or a core
>MCP.
>the only requirement is that you do the least number of
MCPs required for
>your cert
>
>If you program in C#.. get Amit Kalani's stuff... its not
too bad... infact
>i am doing my 70-320 with this book and it all looks good
so far.
>http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/search-handle-
url/index=books-uk&field-keywords=amit%
20kalani/ref=xs_ap_sai1_xgl/026-0445228-0087606
>
>if you want MS training material...
>http://www.microsoft.com/learning/Books/default.asp
>
>Please dont request dumps and or training material or
information to be
>emailed to you. if you are smart enough to finish a
newsgroup to spam then
>please remember that google is your best friend. first
find out what mcad /
>mcsd is.
>
>--
>
>Regards,
>
>Hermit Dave
>(http://hdave.blogspot.com)
>
>
>.
>

Geoff

yeah a couple of times i had to post a comment saying read my earlier post.


--

Regards,

Hermit Dave
(http://hdave.blogspot.com)
"Geoff" <> wrote in message
news:325901c48f28$044ee680$...
> Seeing the types of questions posted here, I doubt very
> much those type of people can read
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Kline and Jar are the only people i reckon who have read
> the FAQs in past
> >but what the heck... here it goes. Will try to update
> with a few extra links
> >
> >if you are a beginner and think that MCAD or MCSD will
> look good on you !!!
> >hold you guns... lapel pins okay... but i havent used it
> till date..
> >get yourself .net sdk at
> >http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...&DisplayLang=en
> >
> >for info on visual studio
> >http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/
> >
> >if you to try the new Visual studio 2005 tools.. express
> products are here
> >just for you.. help yourself.
> >http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/vs2005/
> >
> >Now one you know in's and out's of programming ... on to
> certification..
> >
> >Basic info on what MCP/MCAD/MCSD is
> >http://www.microsoft.com/learning/
> >
> >pointers to the right places...
> >MCP.. you give one exam you become MCP
> >http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcp/default.asp
> >
> >MCAD.. do 3 select MCP exmas and you become MCAD
> >http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcad/default.asp
> >
> >MCSD.. do all the required MCPs for a particular stream
> and you become MCSD
> >http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcsd/default.asp
> >
> >For .NET certification(s) MCP/ MCAD/ MCSD:
> >you have 55 questions
> >passing score is 700 of 1000
> >its a 2 hour exam (plus 15 mins for tutorial + 15 for
> comments)
> >it costs 103.something GBP in uk...
> >you can find out the cost for your country at
> >www.2test.com
> >
> >Also... you can take the exam in any order.. start with
> elective or a core
> >MCP.
> >the only requirement is that you do the least number of
> MCPs required for
> >your cert
> >
> >If you program in C#.. get Amit Kalani's stuff... its not
> too bad... infact
> >i am doing my 70-320 with this book and it all looks good
> so far.
> >http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/search-handle-
> url/index=books-uk&field-keywords=amit%
> 20kalani/ref=xs_ap_sai1_xgl/026-0445228-0087606
> >
> >if you want MS training material...
> >http://www.microsoft.com/learning/Books/default.asp
> >
> >Please dont request dumps and or training material or
> information to be
> >emailed to you. if you are smart enough to finish a
> newsgroup to spam then
> >please remember that google is your best friend. first
> find out what mcad /
> >mcsd is.
> >
> >--
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Hermit Dave
> >(http://hdave.blogspot.com)
> >
> >
> >.
> >

Hermit Dave

OMG!!!!! Is the ability to READ now a requirement? When
did that happen??? Next they'll be asking for a basic
understanding of development methodologies or (heaven
forbid) the ability to communicate!
>-----Original Message-----
>Seeing the types of questions posted here, I doubt very
>much those type of people can read
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Kline and Jar are the only people i reckon who have read
>the FAQs in past
>>but what the heck... here it goes. Will try to update
>with a few extra links
>>
>>if you are a beginner and think that MCAD or MCSD will
>look good on you !!!
>>hold you guns... lapel pins okay... but i havent used it
>till date..
>>get yourself .net sdk at
>>http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...&DisplayLang=en
>>
>>for info on visual studio
>>http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/
>>
>>if you to try the new Visual studio 2005 tools.. express
>products are here
>>just for you.. help yourself.
>>http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/vs2005/
>>
>>Now one you know in's and out's of programming ... on to
>certification..
>>
>>Basic info on what MCP/MCAD/MCSD is
>>http://www.microsoft.com/learning/
>>
>>pointers to the right places...
>>MCP.. you give one exam you become MCP
>>http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcp/default.asp
>>
>>MCAD.. do 3 select MCP exmas and you become MCAD
>>http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcad/default.asp
>>
>>MCSD.. do all the required MCPs for a particular stream
>and you become MCSD
>>http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcsd/default.asp
>>
>>For .NET certification(s) MCP/ MCAD/ MCSD:
>>you have 55 questions
>>passing score is 700 of 1000
>>its a 2 hour exam (plus 15 mins for tutorial + 15 for
>comments)
>>it costs 103.something GBP in uk...
>>you can find out the cost for your country at
>>www.2test.com
>>
>>Also... you can take the exam in any order.. start with
>elective or a core
>>MCP.
>>the only requirement is that you do the least number of
>MCPs required for
>>your cert
>>
>>If you program in C#.. get Amit Kalani's stuff... its
not
>too bad... infact
>>i am doing my 70-320 with this book and it all looks
good
>so far.
>>http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/search-handle-
>url/index=books-uk&field-keywords=amit%
>20kalani/ref=xs_ap_sai1_xgl/026-0445228-0087606
>>
>>if you want MS training material...
>>http://www.microsoft.com/learning/Books/default.asp
>>
>>Please dont request dumps and or training material or
>information to be
>>emailed to you. if you are smart enough to finish a
>newsgroup to spam then
>>please remember that google is your best friend. first
>find out what mcad /
>>mcsd is.
>>
>>--
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Hermit Dave
>>(http://hdave.blogspot.com)
>>
>>
>>.
>>
>.
>

Alistair

>OMG!!!!! Is the ability to READ now a requirement? When
>did that happen??? Next they'll be asking for a basic
>understanding of development methodologies or (heaven
>forbid) the ability to communicate!

nope, that's just crazy talk. Whatever next, initiative and common
sense maybe?

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere

>yeah a couple of times i had to post a comment saying read my earlier post.

pls can u post your earlier post again 4 me as early as possible.
waiting.....

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere

Now you're just being silly. Initiative and common sense?
Since when do those characteristics feature in an
technology career? Isn't that what management types are
for?

Hell if you're going to those lengths, you might as well
put some real effort into the cert program. The next steps
from this type of craziness would be to make the exams
difficult enough to actually mean something. Then, of
course, you'd have to do something about all those pesky
braindumpers. But if you do that, the only people getting
certs would be the ones that actually know something or
(heaven forbid) have some real experience. Then the cert
provider wouldn't be able to boast that more than 1.5
million people have their cert.

What's next from here? An actual lab exam?

Sorry, now I'm the one who's being silly.
>-----Original Message-----
>>OMG!!!!! Is the ability to READ now a requirement? When
>>did that happen??? Next they'll be asking for a basic
>>understanding of development methodologies or (heaven
>>forbid) the ability to communicate!
>
>nope, that's just crazy talk. Whatever next, initiative
and common
>sense maybe?
>
>Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
>.
>

Alistair

>What's next from here? An actual lab exam?

..... mean while, back in the real world!

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere

Is there any time limit to pass all the exam?

thanks

"Hermit Dave" <> wrote in message
news:OFGw%...
> Kline and Jar are the only people i reckon who have read the FAQs in past
> but what the heck... here it goes. Will try to update with a few extra
> links
>
> if you are a beginner and think that MCAD or MCSD will look good on you
> !!!
> hold you guns... lapel pins okay... but i havent used it till date..
> get yourself .net sdk at
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...&DisplayLang=en
>
> for info on visual studio
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/
>
> if you to try the new Visual studio 2005 tools.. express products are here
> just for you.. help yourself.
> http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/vs2005/
>
> Now one you know in's and out's of programming ... on to certification..
>
> Basic info on what MCP/MCAD/MCSD is
> http://www.microsoft.com/learning/
>
> pointers to the right places...
> MCP.. you give one exam you become MCP
> http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcp/default.asp
>
> MCAD.. do 3 select MCP exmas and you become MCAD
> http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcad/default.asp
>
> MCSD.. do all the required MCPs for a particular stream and you become
> MCSD
> http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcsd/default.asp
>
> For .NET certification(s) MCP/ MCAD/ MCSD:
> you have 55 questions
> passing score is 700 of 1000
> its a 2 hour exam (plus 15 mins for tutorial + 15 for comments)
> it costs 103.something GBP in uk...
> you can find out the cost for your country at
> www.2test.com
>
> Also... you can take the exam in any order.. start with elective or a core
> MCP.
> the only requirement is that you do the least number of MCPs required for
> your cert
>
> If you program in C#.. get Amit Kalani's stuff... its not too bad...
> infact
> i am doing my 70-320 with this book and it all looks good so far.
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...445228-0087606
>
> if you want MS training material...
> http://www.microsoft.com/learning/Books/default.asp
>
> Please dont request dumps and or training material or information to be
> emailed to you. if you are smart enough to finish a newsgroup to spam then
> please remember that google is your best friend. first find out what mcad
> /
> mcsd is.
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Hermit Dave
> (http://hdave.blogspot.com)
>
>

M Bandu