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Old 04-22-2004, 03:37 PM   #1
Default Cerification and No Degree.


I heard that certifications with experience and no degree,
is more valuable than anyone with a degree. Now is that
true?


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Old 04-22-2004, 06:29 PM   #2
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>I heard that certifications with experience and no degree,
>is more valuable than anyone with a degree. Now is that
>true?


Experience, Experience, Experience. That is, both technical and
business Experience.

Having said that, everyone has to start somewhere, and this is where
education comes in to play. This is what makes you stand out from the
rest (or at least stand out with the best of the rest!), and is what
employers look for.

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Old 04-22-2004, 09:21 PM   #3
 
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no that's not true at all, certification is just one skill
within one technology, a degree such as an engineering
degree means that you can learn and solve problem no
matter what the technology is.


>-----Original Message-----
>I heard that certifications with experience and no

degree,
>is more valuable than anyone with a degree. Now is that
>true?
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Old 04-22-2004, 09:39 PM   #4
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>no that's not true at all, certification is just one skill
>within one technology, a degree such as an engineering
>degree means that you can learn and solve problem no
>matter what the technology is.


Absolutely

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Old 04-23-2004, 07:57 AM   #5
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"The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere" <.> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:...
> >no that's not true at all, certification is just one skill
> >within one technology, a degree such as an engineering
> >degree means that you can learn and solve problem no
> >matter what the technology is.

>
> Absolutely
>


This depends. When you have strong skills in developing with a language (C#
or VB.NET) and the MS technology, you are also able to adapt this knowledge
to any other language/technology. I think experience is the key.




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Old 04-23-2004, 10:44 AM   #6
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>> >no that's not true at all, certification is just one skill
>> >within one technology, a degree such as an engineering
>> >degree means that you can learn and solve problem no
>> >matter what the technology is.

>>
>> Absolutely
>>

>
>This depends. When you have strong skills in developing with a language (C#
>or VB.NET) and the MS technology, you are also able to adapt this knowledge
>to any other language/technology. I think experience is the key.


Again, 'Absolutely'

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Old 04-23-2004, 03:41 PM   #7
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Fundamental thinking skills is still king. Knowing how to learn and how to
look for and find solutions is something the high school grad with lots of
experience in one language is quite possibly missing. Most (I would hope!)
people learn the psycho-epistemology of problem solving in college. Cause
you sure don't get it in government run high schools.

I don't even think a CS or engineering degree is very important. More
impressive is an applicant with a math degree and a minor in history -- ie,
someone who can think and write -- who independently learned Java and read
Booch and McConnell.

Brad Williams


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news:#...
>
> "The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere" <.> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:...
> > >no that's not true at all, certification is just one skill
> > >within one technology, a degree such as an engineering
> > >degree means that you can learn and solve problem no
> > >matter what the technology is.

> >
> > Absolutely
> >

>
> This depends. When you have strong skills in developing with a language

(C#
> or VB.NET) and the MS technology, you are also able to adapt this

knowledge
> to any other language/technology. I think experience is the key.
>
>





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Old 04-23-2004, 03:58 PM   #8
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>ie,
>someone who can think and write -- who independently learned Java and read
>Booch and McConnell.


.... and bake cookies!

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Old 04-23-2004, 04:13 PM   #9
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>Having said that, everyone has to start somewhere, and

this is where
>education comes in to play. This is what makes you stand

out from the
>rest (or at least stand out with the best of the rest!),

and is what
>employers look for.
>


Thanks Kline! You just saved me from dropping out of
college for Cert's.


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Old 04-23-2004, 04:22 PM   #10
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>Thanks Kline! You just saved me from dropping out of
>college for Cert's.


You more than likely would have regretted that for the rest of your
life, that is unless you won one of the state lotteries! Think of it
this way, you don't want to end up living in a dumpster like me do
you!!!

Good luck.

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