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Consultant
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      12-31-2003
how does it feel being named after a bowling ball?

"Brunswick Lowe" <> wrote in message
news:...
> It's like any other profession. For every good professional, there are
> plenty of bad ones. Lots of lazy people pass the bar, get an MD or rip

jobs
> from people who deserve them. I've met plenty of docs I wouldn't let near

me
> if I were bleeding to death. Degrees and certifications shouldn't be more
> than door openers. So, as has been said many times in this newsgroup, many
> MCSD's may get a job and not be able to keep it.
>
> From my personal experience it takes a hell of a lot more than a B.S.,

MCSD,
> MBA, B.A. or whatever to land a job. I've met plenty of code bangers that
> can't carry on a conversation, for whatever reason. If you can't
> communicate, how can you effectively develop solutions? Similarly, if you
> braindumped and can't write code, how can you even produce a portfolio for
> your interview. So I don't really worry too much about it.
>
> Conversely, some of the best developers I know thumb their noses at Certs.
> They get tons of work. They could code circles around most folks. They are
> great communicators.
>
> In summary, I think Tommy's right on cue in looking for good test prep
> software. Do whatever helps you study. I don't think there's anything

wrong
> with practice tests. Braindumps and practice tests aren't the same.

Practice
> tests are designed to help you LEARN the material and pass the tests

because
> of what you've really learned. Braindumps are designed to help you pass

the
> test as a result of memorizing the questions. There's a big difference.
> Keeping that in mind, bad practice tests are frustrating and time

consuming
> if they have you chasing rabbits (studying irrelevant material). You can
> check what you've been learning against www.microsoft.com or
> www.codeclinic.com to make sure you're studying the right material.
>
> Sorry for the rant, but I've been biting my tongue on this subject for

about
> a year. Boy. I feel better.
>
> Brunswick
>
> "Kline Sphere" <.> wrote in message
> news:...
> > >But it
> > >ain't for the lazy.

> >
> > Nor should the whole certification process, problem is lazy people can
> > pass.

>
>



 
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Brunswick Lowe
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      12-31-2003
Not bad considering the cash flow.

Unfortunately, I'm kidding.


"Consultant" <> wrote in message
news:...
> how does it feel being named after a bowling ball?
>
> "Brunswick Lowe" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> > It's like any other profession. For every good professional, there are
> > plenty of bad ones. Lots of lazy people pass the bar, get an MD or rip

> jobs
> > from people who deserve them. I've met plenty of docs I wouldn't let

near
> me
> > if I were bleeding to death. Degrees and certifications shouldn't be

more
> > than door openers. So, as has been said many times in this newsgroup,

many
> > MCSD's may get a job and not be able to keep it.
> >
> > From my personal experience it takes a hell of a lot more than a B.S.,

> MCSD,
> > MBA, B.A. or whatever to land a job. I've met plenty of code bangers

that
> > can't carry on a conversation, for whatever reason. If you can't
> > communicate, how can you effectively develop solutions? Similarly, if

you
> > braindumped and can't write code, how can you even produce a portfolio

for
> > your interview. So I don't really worry too much about it.
> >
> > Conversely, some of the best developers I know thumb their noses at

Certs.
> > They get tons of work. They could code circles around most folks. They

are
> > great communicators.
> >
> > In summary, I think Tommy's right on cue in looking for good test prep
> > software. Do whatever helps you study. I don't think there's anything

> wrong
> > with practice tests. Braindumps and practice tests aren't the same.

> Practice
> > tests are designed to help you LEARN the material and pass the tests

> because
> > of what you've really learned. Braindumps are designed to help you pass

> the
> > test as a result of memorizing the questions. There's a big difference.
> > Keeping that in mind, bad practice tests are frustrating and time

> consuming
> > if they have you chasing rabbits (studying irrelevant material). You can
> > check what you've been learning against www.microsoft.com or
> > www.codeclinic.com to make sure you're studying the right material.
> >
> > Sorry for the rant, but I've been biting my tongue on this subject for

> about
> > a year. Boy. I feel better.
> >
> > Brunswick
> >
> > "Kline Sphere" <.> wrote in message
> > news:...
> > > >But it
> > > >ain't for the lazy.
> > >
> > > Nor should the whole certification process, problem is lazy people can
> > > pass.

> >
> >

>
>



 
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Consultant
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      12-31-2003
im glad you have a sense of humor!


"Brunswick Lowe" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Not bad considering the cash flow.
>
> Unfortunately, I'm kidding.
>
>
> "Consultant" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> > how does it feel being named after a bowling ball?
> >
> > "Brunswick Lowe" <> wrote in message
> > news:...
> > > It's like any other profession. For every good professional, there are
> > > plenty of bad ones. Lots of lazy people pass the bar, get an MD or rip

> > jobs
> > > from people who deserve them. I've met plenty of docs I wouldn't let

> near
> > me
> > > if I were bleeding to death. Degrees and certifications shouldn't be

> more
> > > than door openers. So, as has been said many times in this newsgroup,

> many
> > > MCSD's may get a job and not be able to keep it.
> > >
> > > From my personal experience it takes a hell of a lot more than a B.S.,

> > MCSD,
> > > MBA, B.A. or whatever to land a job. I've met plenty of code bangers

> that
> > > can't carry on a conversation, for whatever reason. If you can't
> > > communicate, how can you effectively develop solutions? Similarly, if

> you
> > > braindumped and can't write code, how can you even produce a portfolio

> for
> > > your interview. So I don't really worry too much about it.
> > >
> > > Conversely, some of the best developers I know thumb their noses at

> Certs.
> > > They get tons of work. They could code circles around most folks. They

> are
> > > great communicators.
> > >
> > > In summary, I think Tommy's right on cue in looking for good test prep
> > > software. Do whatever helps you study. I don't think there's anything

> > wrong
> > > with practice tests. Braindumps and practice tests aren't the same.

> > Practice
> > > tests are designed to help you LEARN the material and pass the tests

> > because
> > > of what you've really learned. Braindumps are designed to help you

pass
> > the
> > > test as a result of memorizing the questions. There's a big

difference.
> > > Keeping that in mind, bad practice tests are frustrating and time

> > consuming
> > > if they have you chasing rabbits (studying irrelevant material). You

can
> > > check what you've been learning against www.microsoft.com or
> > > www.codeclinic.com to make sure you're studying the right material.
> > >
> > > Sorry for the rant, but I've been biting my tongue on this subject for

> > about
> > > a year. Boy. I feel better.
> > >
> > > Brunswick
> > >
> > > "Kline Sphere" <.> wrote in message
> > > news:...
> > > > >But it
> > > > >ain't for the lazy.
> > > >
> > > > Nor should the whole certification process, problem is lazy people

can
> > > > pass.
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



 
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Kline Sphere
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      12-31-2003
Unlike old iCertify.nety!


On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 08:31:53 -0800, "Consultant"
<> wrote:

>im glad you have a sense of humor!
>
>
>"Brunswick Lowe" <> wrote in message
>news:...
>> Not bad considering the cash flow.
>>
>> Unfortunately, I'm kidding.
>>
>>
>> "Consultant" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>> > how does it feel being named after a bowling ball?
>> >
>> > "Brunswick Lowe" <> wrote in message
>> > news:...
>> > > It's like any other profession. For every good professional, there are
>> > > plenty of bad ones. Lots of lazy people pass the bar, get an MD or rip
>> > jobs
>> > > from people who deserve them. I've met plenty of docs I wouldn't let

>> near
>> > me
>> > > if I were bleeding to death. Degrees and certifications shouldn't be

>> more
>> > > than door openers. So, as has been said many times in this newsgroup,

>> many
>> > > MCSD's may get a job and not be able to keep it.
>> > >
>> > > From my personal experience it takes a hell of a lot more than a B.S.,
>> > MCSD,
>> > > MBA, B.A. or whatever to land a job. I've met plenty of code bangers

>> that
>> > > can't carry on a conversation, for whatever reason. If you can't
>> > > communicate, how can you effectively develop solutions? Similarly, if

>> you
>> > > braindumped and can't write code, how can you even produce a portfolio

>> for
>> > > your interview. So I don't really worry too much about it.
>> > >
>> > > Conversely, some of the best developers I know thumb their noses at

>> Certs.
>> > > They get tons of work. They could code circles around most folks. They

>> are
>> > > great communicators.
>> > >
>> > > In summary, I think Tommy's right on cue in looking for good test prep
>> > > software. Do whatever helps you study. I don't think there's anything
>> > wrong
>> > > with practice tests. Braindumps and practice tests aren't the same.
>> > Practice
>> > > tests are designed to help you LEARN the material and pass the tests
>> > because
>> > > of what you've really learned. Braindumps are designed to help you

>pass
>> > the
>> > > test as a result of memorizing the questions. There's a big

>difference.
>> > > Keeping that in mind, bad practice tests are frustrating and time
>> > consuming
>> > > if they have you chasing rabbits (studying irrelevant material). You

>can
>> > > check what you've been learning against www.microsoft.com or
>> > > www.codeclinic.com to make sure you're studying the right material.
>> > >
>> > > Sorry for the rant, but I've been biting my tongue on this subject for
>> > about
>> > > a year. Boy. I feel better.
>> > >
>> > > Brunswick
>> > >
>> > > "Kline Sphere" <.> wrote in message
>> > > news:...
>> > > > >But it
>> > > > >ain't for the lazy.
>> > > >
>> > > > Nor should the whole certification process, problem is lazy people

>can
>> > > > pass.
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >

>>
>>

>


 
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Consultant
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      12-31-2003
no doubt

"Kline Sphere" <.> wrote in message
news:...
> Unlike old iCertify.nety!
>
>
> On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 08:31:53 -0800, "Consultant"
> <> wrote:
>
> >im glad you have a sense of humor!
> >
> >
> >"Brunswick Lowe" <> wrote in message
> >news:...
> >> Not bad considering the cash flow.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately, I'm kidding.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Consultant" <> wrote in message
> >> news:...
> >> > how does it feel being named after a bowling ball?
> >> >
> >> > "Brunswick Lowe" <> wrote in message
> >> > news:...
> >> > > It's like any other profession. For every good professional, there

are
> >> > > plenty of bad ones. Lots of lazy people pass the bar, get an MD or

rip
> >> > jobs
> >> > > from people who deserve them. I've met plenty of docs I wouldn't

let
> >> near
> >> > me
> >> > > if I were bleeding to death. Degrees and certifications shouldn't

be
> >> more
> >> > > than door openers. So, as has been said many times in this

newsgroup,
> >> many
> >> > > MCSD's may get a job and not be able to keep it.
> >> > >
> >> > > From my personal experience it takes a hell of a lot more than a

B.S.,
> >> > MCSD,
> >> > > MBA, B.A. or whatever to land a job. I've met plenty of code

bangers
> >> that
> >> > > can't carry on a conversation, for whatever reason. If you can't
> >> > > communicate, how can you effectively develop solutions? Similarly,

if
> >> you
> >> > > braindumped and can't write code, how can you even produce a

portfolio
> >> for
> >> > > your interview. So I don't really worry too much about it.
> >> > >
> >> > > Conversely, some of the best developers I know thumb their noses at
> >> Certs.
> >> > > They get tons of work. They could code circles around most folks.

They
> >> are
> >> > > great communicators.
> >> > >
> >> > > In summary, I think Tommy's right on cue in looking for good test

prep
> >> > > software. Do whatever helps you study. I don't think there's

anything
> >> > wrong
> >> > > with practice tests. Braindumps and practice tests aren't the same.
> >> > Practice
> >> > > tests are designed to help you LEARN the material and pass the

tests
> >> > because
> >> > > of what you've really learned. Braindumps are designed to help you

> >pass
> >> > the
> >> > > test as a result of memorizing the questions. There's a big

> >difference.
> >> > > Keeping that in mind, bad practice tests are frustrating and time
> >> > consuming
> >> > > if they have you chasing rabbits (studying irrelevant material).

You
> >can
> >> > > check what you've been learning against www.microsoft.com or
> >> > > www.codeclinic.com to make sure you're studying the right material.
> >> > >
> >> > > Sorry for the rant, but I've been biting my tongue on this subject

for
> >> > about
> >> > > a year. Boy. I feel better.
> >> > >
> >> > > Brunswick
> >> > >
> >> > > "Kline Sphere" <.> wrote in message
> >> > > news:...
> >> > > > >But it
> >> > > > >ain't for the lazy.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Nor should the whole certification process, problem is lazy

people
> >can
> >> > > > pass.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>

> >

>



 
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Brunswick Lowe
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      12-31-2003
dunno him. must have been before my time.


"Consultant" <> wrote in message
news:eaczl$...
> no doubt
>
> "Kline Sphere" <.> wrote in message
> news:...
> > Unlike old iCertify.nety!
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 08:31:53 -0800, "Consultant"
> > <> wrote:
> >
> > >im glad you have a sense of humor!
> > >
> > >
> > >"Brunswick Lowe" <> wrote in message
> > >news:...
> > >> Not bad considering the cash flow.
> > >>
> > >> Unfortunately, I'm kidding.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "Consultant" <> wrote in

message
> > >> news:...
> > >> > how does it feel being named after a bowling ball?
> > >> >
> > >> > "Brunswick Lowe" <> wrote in message
> > >> > news:...
> > >> > > It's like any other profession. For every good professional,

there
> are
> > >> > > plenty of bad ones. Lots of lazy people pass the bar, get an MD

or
> rip
> > >> > jobs
> > >> > > from people who deserve them. I've met plenty of docs I wouldn't

> let
> > >> near
> > >> > me
> > >> > > if I were bleeding to death. Degrees and certifications shouldn't

> be
> > >> more
> > >> > > than door openers. So, as has been said many times in this

> newsgroup,
> > >> many
> > >> > > MCSD's may get a job and not be able to keep it.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > From my personal experience it takes a hell of a lot more than a

> B.S.,
> > >> > MCSD,
> > >> > > MBA, B.A. or whatever to land a job. I've met plenty of code

> bangers
> > >> that
> > >> > > can't carry on a conversation, for whatever reason. If you can't
> > >> > > communicate, how can you effectively develop solutions?

Similarly,
> if
> > >> you
> > >> > > braindumped and can't write code, how can you even produce a

> portfolio
> > >> for
> > >> > > your interview. So I don't really worry too much about it.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Conversely, some of the best developers I know thumb their noses

at
> > >> Certs.
> > >> > > They get tons of work. They could code circles around most folks.

> They
> > >> are
> > >> > > great communicators.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > In summary, I think Tommy's right on cue in looking for good test

> prep
> > >> > > software. Do whatever helps you study. I don't think there's

> anything
> > >> > wrong
> > >> > > with practice tests. Braindumps and practice tests aren't the

same.
> > >> > Practice
> > >> > > tests are designed to help you LEARN the material and pass the

> tests
> > >> > because
> > >> > > of what you've really learned. Braindumps are designed to help

you
> > >pass
> > >> > the
> > >> > > test as a result of memorizing the questions. There's a big
> > >difference.
> > >> > > Keeping that in mind, bad practice tests are frustrating and time
> > >> > consuming
> > >> > > if they have you chasing rabbits (studying irrelevant material).

> You
> > >can
> > >> > > check what you've been learning against www.microsoft.com or
> > >> > > www.codeclinic.com to make sure you're studying the right

material.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Sorry for the rant, but I've been biting my tongue on this

subject
> for
> > >> > about
> > >> > > a year. Boy. I feel better.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Brunswick
> > >> > >
> > >> > > "Kline Sphere" <.> wrote in message
> > >> > > news:...
> > >> > > > >But it
> > >> > > > >ain't for the lazy.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Nor should the whole certification process, problem is lazy

> people
> > >can
> > >> > > > pass.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >

> >

>
>



 
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you don't want to


"Brunswick Lowe" <> wrote in message
news:%23LVfhm$...
> dunno him. must have been before my time.
>
>
> "Consultant" <> wrote in message
> news:eaczl$...
> > no doubt
> >
> > "Kline Sphere" <.> wrote in message
> > news:...
> > > Unlike old iCertify.nety!
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 08:31:53 -0800, "Consultant"
> > > <> wrote:
> > >
> > > >im glad you have a sense of humor!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >"Brunswick Lowe" <> wrote in message
> > > >news:...
> > > >> Not bad considering the cash flow.
> > > >>
> > > >> Unfortunately, I'm kidding.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> "Consultant" <> wrote in

> message
> > > >> news:...
> > > >> > how does it feel being named after a bowling ball?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > "Brunswick Lowe" <> wrote in message
> > > >> > news:...
> > > >> > > It's like any other profession. For every good professional,

> there
> > are
> > > >> > > plenty of bad ones. Lots of lazy people pass the bar, get an MD

> or
> > rip
> > > >> > jobs
> > > >> > > from people who deserve them. I've met plenty of docs I

wouldn't
> > let
> > > >> near
> > > >> > me
> > > >> > > if I were bleeding to death. Degrees and certifications

shouldn't
> > be
> > > >> more
> > > >> > > than door openers. So, as has been said many times in this

> > newsgroup,
> > > >> many
> > > >> > > MCSD's may get a job and not be able to keep it.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > From my personal experience it takes a hell of a lot more than

a
> > B.S.,
> > > >> > MCSD,
> > > >> > > MBA, B.A. or whatever to land a job. I've met plenty of code

> > bangers
> > > >> that
> > > >> > > can't carry on a conversation, for whatever reason. If you

can't
> > > >> > > communicate, how can you effectively develop solutions?

> Similarly,
> > if
> > > >> you
> > > >> > > braindumped and can't write code, how can you even produce a

> > portfolio
> > > >> for
> > > >> > > your interview. So I don't really worry too much about it.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Conversely, some of the best developers I know thumb their

noses
> at
> > > >> Certs.
> > > >> > > They get tons of work. They could code circles around most

folks.
> > They
> > > >> are
> > > >> > > great communicators.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > In summary, I think Tommy's right on cue in looking for good

test
> > prep
> > > >> > > software. Do whatever helps you study. I don't think there's

> > anything
> > > >> > wrong
> > > >> > > with practice tests. Braindumps and practice tests aren't the

> same.
> > > >> > Practice
> > > >> > > tests are designed to help you LEARN the material and pass the

> > tests
> > > >> > because
> > > >> > > of what you've really learned. Braindumps are designed to help

> you
> > > >pass
> > > >> > the
> > > >> > > test as a result of memorizing the questions. There's a big
> > > >difference.
> > > >> > > Keeping that in mind, bad practice tests are frustrating and

time
> > > >> > consuming
> > > >> > > if they have you chasing rabbits (studying irrelevant

material).
> > You
> > > >can
> > > >> > > check what you've been learning against www.microsoft.com or
> > > >> > > www.codeclinic.com to make sure you're studying the right

> material.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Sorry for the rant, but I've been biting my tongue on this

> subject
> > for
> > > >> > about
> > > >> > > a year. Boy. I feel better.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Brunswick
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > "Kline Sphere" <.> wrote in message
> > > >> > > news:...
> > > >> > > > >But it
> > > >> > > > >ain't for the lazy.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Nor should the whole certification process, problem is lazy

> > people
> > > >can
> > > >> > > > pass.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



 
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