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Old 12-03-2003, 03:47 PM   #1
Default SQL server 2000 for a VB.NET developer


Hey all,

I have no prior experienc with SQL server 2000 but I
develop web applications that interface with MS Access
databases all the time.

Do you know of any good books at the beginner level to
learn more about SQL server 2000 from a VB.NET
programmer's point of view?

Thanks!
Venkat



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Old 12-03-2003, 03:57 PM   #2
 
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If you are using ADO.NET, then there is little difference between selecting,
inserting, updating a SQL Server database and a MS Access database. Are you
basically wanting to learn T-SQL and stored procedures?


"Venkat" <> wrote in message
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> Hey all,
>
> I have no prior experienc with SQL server 2000 but I
> develop web applications that interface with MS Access
> databases all the time.
>
> Do you know of any good books at the beginner level to
> learn more about SQL server 2000 from a VB.NET
> programmer's point of view?
>
> Thanks!
> Venkat
>





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Old 12-03-2003, 04:46 PM   #3
Venkat
 
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I am looking for something that will answer basic
questions like:

1. What is SQl server?
2. How does it work?
3. How is it different from MS access?
4. Where can I get a free version of SQl server?
5. How do I get it up and running on a standalone
development machine?
5. How do I develop databases with SQl server?
6. How do I make those databases talk to VB.NET?

Thanks!
Venkat

>-----Original Message-----
>If you are using ADO.NET, then there is little difference

between selecting,
>inserting, updating a SQL Server database and a MS Access

database. Are you
>basically wanting to learn T-SQL and stored procedures?
>
>
>"Venkat" <> wrote in message
>news:0cff01c3b9b4$cd210150$...
>> Hey all,
>>
>> I have no prior experienc with SQL server 2000 but I
>> develop web applications that interface with MS Access
>> databases all the time.
>>
>> Do you know of any good books at the beginner level to
>> learn more about SQL server 2000 from a VB.NET
>> programmer's point of view?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Venkat
>>

>
>
>.
>



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Old 12-03-2003, 06:04 PM   #4
 
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There are a lot of good SQL Server FAQs on the web:
http://www.mssqlcity.com/Articles/Co..._vs_access.htm

You can purchase SQL Server Developer Edition for about $100. It is almost
identical to Enterprise Edition but does not accept external connections.

Barnes & Noble is good place to browse tech books.


"Venkat" <> wrote in message
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> I am looking for something that will answer basic
> questions like:
>
> 1. What is SQl server?
> 2. How does it work?
> 3. How is it different from MS access?
> 4. Where can I get a free version of SQl server?
> 5. How do I get it up and running on a standalone
> development machine?
> 5. How do I develop databases with SQl server?
> 6. How do I make those databases talk to VB.NET?
>
> Thanks!
> Venkat
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >If you are using ADO.NET, then there is little difference

> between selecting,
> >inserting, updating a SQL Server database and a MS Access

> database. Are you
> >basically wanting to learn T-SQL and stored procedures?
> >
> >
> >"Venkat" <> wrote in message
> >news:0cff01c3b9b4$cd210150$...
> >> Hey all,
> >>
> >> I have no prior experienc with SQL server 2000 but I
> >> develop web applications that interface with MS Access
> >> databases all the time.
> >>
> >> Do you know of any good books at the beginner level to
> >> learn more about SQL server 2000 from a VB.NET
> >> programmer's point of view?
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >> Venkat
> >>

> >
> >
> >.
> >





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Old 12-03-2003, 07:04 PM   #5
EC
 
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Ms Access is a toddler and SQL Server is a grown-up. You can download the
trial version, good for 120 days, at:
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/evaluat...al/default.asp

When on the page, click on the "SQL Server 2000 Features" link to read what
SQL Server is and how it works.

Installing it on your standalone development machine , which is a straight
forward task, and its Service Mager will be automatically run by default.

Read the Books Online after the installation. The "Building SQL Server
Application" section contains all information you are asking here.

Microsoft ADO .NET Step by Step book should be good for a beginner level of
both the VB .Net and C# .NET.

"Venkat" <> wrote in message
news:0c0f01c3b9bc$ef6e9da0$...
> I am looking for something that will answer basic
> questions like:
>
> 1. What is SQl server?
> 2. How does it work?
> 3. How is it different from MS access?
> 4. Where can I get a free version of SQl server?
> 5. How do I get it up and running on a standalone
> development machine?
> 5. How do I develop databases with SQl server?
> 6. How do I make those databases talk to VB.NET?
>
> Thanks!
> Venkat
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >If you are using ADO.NET, then there is little difference

> between selecting,
> >inserting, updating a SQL Server database and a MS Access

> database. Are you
> >basically wanting to learn T-SQL and stored procedures?
> >
> >
> >"Venkat" <> wrote in message
> >news:0cff01c3b9b4$cd210150$...
> >> Hey all,
> >>
> >> I have no prior experienc with SQL server 2000 but I
> >> develop web applications that interface with MS Access
> >> databases all the time.
> >>
> >> Do you know of any good books at the beginner level to
> >> learn more about SQL server 2000 from a VB.NET
> >> programmer's point of view?
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >> Venkat
> >>

> >
> >
> >.
> >





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Old 12-04-2003, 07:55 AM   #6
Schfooge
 
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<WKidd> wrote in message news:#...
> There are a lot of good SQL Server FAQs on the web:
> http://www.mssqlcity.com/Articles/Co..._vs_access.htm
>
> You can purchase SQL Server Developer Edition for about $100. It is almost
> identical to Enterprise Edition but does not accept external connections.


Or you can start out with the SQL Server 2000 Desktop Engine
(also known as the MS Data Engine (MSDE)). It's free and you
can download it from microsoft at:
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/msde/downloads/default.asp




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Old 12-04-2003, 03:53 PM   #7
 
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MSDE is o.k. if and when it comes time to deploy a distributed database on
the user's PC. However, he may want to become familiar with the standard GUI
(EM, QA, etc.) if he wants to lean SQL Server for the exam.

As far as I know, the only GUI for MSDE are provided by 3rd parties?

"Schfooge" <> wrote in message
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> <WKidd> wrote in message news:#...
> > There are a lot of good SQL Server FAQs on the web:
> > http://www.mssqlcity.com/Articles/Co..._vs_access.htm
> >
> > You can purchase SQL Server Developer Edition for about $100. It is

almost
> > identical to Enterprise Edition but does not accept external

connections.
>
> Or you can start out with the SQL Server 2000 Desktop Engine
> (also known as the MS Data Engine (MSDE)). It's free and you
> can download it from microsoft at:
> http://www.microsoft.com/sql/msde/downloads/default.asp
>
>





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Old 12-04-2003, 06:29 PM   #8
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>As far as I know, the only GUI for MSDE are provided by 3rd parties?

No big lose. Gives people the opportunity to learn how to write
scrips.


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Old 12-04-2003, 10:53 PM   #9
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> You can install the Enterprise Manager from a SQL
>Server 2000 install disk:


By doing so, may be illegal.


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Old 12-05-2003, 03:04 AM   #10
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<WKidd> wrote in message news:...
>
> MSDE is o.k. if and when it comes time to deploy a distributed database on
> the user's PC. However, he may want to become familiar with the standard

GUI
> (EM, QA, etc.) if he wants to lean SQL Server for the exam.
>
> As far as I know, the only GUI for MSDE are provided by 3rd parties?
>


What I was thinking was that he might want to play around with
the MSDE first a bit before laying out money on a developer copy.


And tecnically there is a Microsoft GUI you can use with the
MSDE. You can install the Enterprise Manager from a SQL
Server 2000 install disk:

1. choose "SQL Server 2000 Components" from the startup screen.
2. choose "Install database server"
3. go throught the install process until you reach a screen offering
you the option of: Client Tools Only
Server And Client Tools
Connectivity Only
4. choose "Client Tools Only" and finish the installation.

This installs the Enterprise Manager, and it works no problem
with the MSDE. The only catch is that you have to own a
license for the SQL Server 2000 disk for this to be legal.
This setup is great for learning SQL Server on a single machine
or a small home network.




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