Now I REALLY don't trust Microsoft!!!!

Hey,

I have a number of certs from M$ and make a buck off of them.
I also consult and recommend biz solutions.

It really bothered me that I couldn't find a truly independent benchmark of
M$ product due their restrictive EULA so I have been very wary of
really pushing M$ as a solution.

I lost trust in @Stake's truthfulness and objectivity when they fired
their CTO for giving his opinion on M$ and industry security.
(see: AtStake CTO loses job after Microsoft report)
http://www.forbes.com/technology/new...tr1092228.html

Now I see that they have FIRED a guy for reporting that M$ uses
G5's.

I know that they had the security people do it, but that is CRAP.
It's just a cover....

I REALLY DO NOT TRUST THEM!

http://www.michaelhanscom.com/eclect...gging_and.html

I certainly am glad that I know more than M$ and they are not my
main source of income and success.

Be careful if all you know is M$.
You may not be properly advising your customers.of the best solutions.

You can argue the point all day but I believe what I see and what you do.
Not what you say.

Enjoy and take care of your customers FIRST!

Charlie

Charlie

There are several government and private organizations (independent of
Microsoft) who compile performance and security benchmarks of Microsoft and
other vendor products. Here are just a few:

http://www.tpc.org/tpcc/results/tpcc_perf_results.asp
www.gsa.gov
http://www.ciao.gov/
http://www.cisecurity.org/
http://www.sans.org/
http://www.nist.gov/

WKidd

"Charlie" <> wrote in message
news:YSPyb.276664$ao4.947867@attbi_s51...
> Hey,
>
> I have a number of certs from M$ and make a buck off of them.
> I also consult and recommend biz solutions.
>
> It really bothered me that I couldn't find a truly independent benchmark
of
> M$ product due their restrictive EULA so I have been very wary of
> really pushing M$ as a solution.
>
> I lost trust in @Stake's truthfulness and objectivity when they fired
> their CTO for giving his opinion on M$ and industry security.
> (see: AtStake CTO loses job after Microsoft report)
> http://www.forbes.com/technology/new...tr1092228.html
>
> Now I see that they have FIRED a guy for reporting that M$ uses
> G5's.
>
> I know that they had the security people do it, but that is CRAP.
> It's just a cover....
>
> I REALLY DO NOT TRUST THEM!
>
> http://www.michaelhanscom.com/eclect...gging_and.html
>
> I certainly am glad that I know more than M$ and they are not my
> main source of income and success.
>
> Be careful if all you know is M$.
> You may not be properly advising your customers.of the best solutions.
>
> You can argue the point all day but I believe what I see and what you do.
> Not what you say.
>
> Enjoy and take care of your customers FIRST!
>
> Charlie
>
>
>

Hi WKidd,

Did you ever read the EULA's
You must agree NOT to publish any benchmarks without M$ approval.

If they don't like it you can't say it....

This is what I am referring to....

Charlie


<WKidd> wrote in message news:...
> There are several government and private organizations (independent of
> Microsoft) who compile performance and security benchmarks of Microsoft
and
> other vendor products. Here are just a few:
>
> http://www.tpc.org/tpcc/results/tpcc_perf_results.asp
> www.gsa.gov
> http://www.ciao.gov/
> http://www.cisecurity.org/
> http://www.sans.org/
> http://www.nist.gov/
>
> WKidd
>
> "Charlie" <> wrote in message
> news:YSPyb.276664$ao4.947867@attbi_s51...
> > Hey,
> >
> > I have a number of certs from M$ and make a buck off of them.
> > I also consult and recommend biz solutions.
> >
> > It really bothered me that I couldn't find a truly independent benchmark
> of
> > M$ product due their restrictive EULA so I have been very wary of
> > really pushing M$ as a solution.
> >
> > I lost trust in @Stake's truthfulness and objectivity when they fired
> > their CTO for giving his opinion on M$ and industry security.
> > (see: AtStake CTO loses job after Microsoft report)
> > http://www.forbes.com/technology/new...tr1092228.html
> >
> > Now I see that they have FIRED a guy for reporting that M$ uses
> > G5's.
> >
> > I know that they had the security people do it, but that is CRAP.
> > It's just a cover....
> >
> > I REALLY DO NOT TRUST THEM!
> >
> > http://www.michaelhanscom.com/eclect...gging_and.html
> >
> > I certainly am glad that I know more than M$ and they are not my
> > main source of income and success.
> >
> > Be careful if all you know is M$.
> > You may not be properly advising your customers.of the best solutions.
> >
> > You can argue the point all day but I believe what I see and what you
do.
> > Not what you say.
> >
> > Enjoy and take care of your customers FIRST!
> >
> > Charlie
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Charlie

>You must agree NOT to publish any benchmarks without M$ approval.
>
>If they don't like it you can't say it....

Yep can't see 'em allowing bad (however true) propaganda into the
public domain.

Kline Sphere

But there are benchmarks published for public review, so Microsoft must be
cooperating.


"Kline Sphere" <.> wrote in message
news:...
> >You must agree NOT to publish any benchmarks without M$ approval.
> >
> >If they don't like it you can't say it....
>
> Yep can't see 'em allowing bad (however true) propaganda into the
> public domain.

What's with the "M$" logo, ¢harlie?

There is no reason to do that. It was funny at one time but that was years
ago. All successful companies are in business to make money.

Just call them MS or Microsoft. It sustains credibility for you and your
statements.

> > > I certainly am glad that I know more than M$ and they are not my
> > > main source of income and success.

Wow.

Davin Mickelson


"Charlie" <> wrote in message
news:0OSyb.277667$ao4.981638@attbi_s51...
> Hi WKidd,
>
> Did you ever read the EULA's
> You must agree NOT to publish any benchmarks without M$ approval.
>
> If they don't like it you can't say it....
>
> This is what I am referring to....
>
> Charlie
>
>
> <WKidd> wrote in message news:...
> > There are several government and private organizations (independent of
> > Microsoft) who compile performance and security benchmarks of Microsoft
> and
> > other vendor products. Here are just a few:
> >
> > http://www.tpc.org/tpcc/results/tpcc_perf_results.asp
> > www.gsa.gov
> > http://www.ciao.gov/
> > http://www.cisecurity.org/
> > http://www.sans.org/
> > http://www.nist.gov/
> >
> > WKidd
> >
> > "Charlie" <> wrote in message
> > news:YSPyb.276664$ao4.947867@attbi_s51...
> > > Hey,
> > >
> > > I have a number of certs from M$ and make a buck off of them.
> > > I also consult and recommend biz solutions.
> > >
> > > It really bothered me that I couldn't find a truly independent
benchmark
> > of
> > > M$ product due their restrictive EULA so I have been very wary of
> > > really pushing M$ as a solution.
> > >
> > > I lost trust in @Stake's truthfulness and objectivity when they fired
> > > their CTO for giving his opinion on M$ and industry security.
> > > (see: AtStake CTO loses job after Microsoft report)
> > > http://www.forbes.com/technology/new...tr1092228.html
> > >
> > > Now I see that they have FIRED a guy for reporting that M$ uses
> > > G5's.
> > >
> > > I know that they had the security people do it, but that is CRAP.
> > > It's just a cover....
> > >
> > > I REALLY DO NOT TRUST THEM!
> > >
> > > http://www.michaelhanscom.com/eclect...gging_and.html
> > >
> > > I certainly am glad that I know more than M$ and they are not my
> > > main source of income and success.
> > >
> > > Be careful if all you know is M$.
> > > You may not be properly advising your customers.of the best
solutions.
> > >
> > > You can argue the point all day but I believe what I see and what you
> do.
> > > Not what you say.
> > >
> > > Enjoy and take care of your customers FIRST!
> > >
> > > Charlie
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Davin Mickelson

What's a matter?

Does M$ hurt?

Ahhhhhh, 8^) ;^) :^)

Davin, I posted the relevant references as backup sources.

The M$ moniker is just as relevant today as it was YEARS AGO given their
current actions.

¢harlie


"Davin Mickelson" <> wrote in message
news:uHAj#...
> What's with the "M$" logo, ¢harlie?
>
> There is no reason to do that. It was funny at one time but that was years
> ago. All successful companies are in business to make money.
>
> Just call them MS or Microsoft. It sustains credibility for you and your
> statements.
>
> > > > I certainly am glad that I know more than M$ and they are not my
> > > > main source of income and success.
>
> Wow.
>
> Davin Mickelson
>
>
> "Charlie" <> wrote in message
> news:0OSyb.277667$ao4.981638@attbi_s51...
> > Hi WKidd,
> >
> > Did you ever read the EULA's
> > You must agree NOT to publish any benchmarks without M$ approval.
> >
> > If they don't like it you can't say it....
> >
> > This is what I am referring to....
> >
> > Charlie
> >
> >
> > <WKidd> wrote in message news:...
> > > There are several government and private organizations (independent of
> > > Microsoft) who compile performance and security benchmarks of
Microsoft
> > and
> > > other vendor products. Here are just a few:
> > >
> > > http://www.tpc.org/tpcc/results/tpcc_perf_results.asp
> > > www.gsa.gov
> > > http://www.ciao.gov/
> > > http://www.cisecurity.org/
> > > http://www.sans.org/
> > > http://www.nist.gov/
> > >
> > > WKidd
> > >
> > > "Charlie" <> wrote in message
> > > news:YSPyb.276664$ao4.947867@attbi_s51...
> > > > Hey,
> > > >
> > > > I have a number of certs from M$ and make a buck off of them.
> > > > I also consult and recommend biz solutions.
> > > >
> > > > It really bothered me that I couldn't find a truly independent
> benchmark
> > > of
> > > > M$ product due their restrictive EULA so I have been very wary of
> > > > really pushing M$ as a solution.
> > > >
> > > > I lost trust in @Stake's truthfulness and objectivity when they
fired
> > > > their CTO for giving his opinion on M$ and industry security.
> > > > (see: AtStake CTO loses job after Microsoft report)
> > > > http://www.forbes.com/technology/new...tr1092228.html
> > > >
> > > > Now I see that they have FIRED a guy for reporting that M$ uses
> > > > G5's.
> > > >
> > > > I know that they had the security people do it, but that is CRAP.
> > > > It's just a cover....
> > > >
> > > > I REALLY DO NOT TRUST THEM!
> > > >
> > > >
http://www.michaelhanscom.com/eclect...gging_and.html
> > > >
> > > > I certainly am glad that I know more than M$ and they are not my
> > > > main source of income and success.
> > > >
> > > > Be careful if all you know is M$.
> > > > You may not be properly advising your customers.of the best
> solutions.
> > > >
> > > > You can argue the point all day but I believe what I see and what
you
> > do.
> > > > Not what you say.
> > > >
> > > > Enjoy and take care of your customers FIRST!
> > > >
> > > > Charlie
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Charlie

All us MC$Ds are out to make a buck too.


"Davin Mickelson" <> wrote in message
news:uHAj#...
> What's with the "M$" logo, ¢harlie?
>
> There is no reason to do that. It was funny at one time but that was years
> ago. All successful companies are in business to make money.
>
> Just call them MS or Microsoft. It sustains credibility for you and your
> statements.
>
> > > > I certainly am glad that I know more than M$ and they are not my
> > > > main source of income and success.
>
> Wow.
>
> Davin Mickelson
>
>
> "Charlie" <> wrote in message
> news:0OSyb.277667$ao4.981638@attbi_s51...
> > Hi WKidd,
> >
> > Did you ever read the EULA's
> > You must agree NOT to publish any benchmarks without M$ approval.
> >
> > If they don't like it you can't say it....
> >
> > This is what I am referring to....
> >
> > Charlie
> >
> >
> > <WKidd> wrote in message news:...
> > > There are several government and private organizations (independent of
> > > Microsoft) who compile performance and security benchmarks of
Microsoft
> > and
> > > other vendor products. Here are just a few:
> > >
> > > http://www.tpc.org/tpcc/results/tpcc_perf_results.asp
> > > www.gsa.gov
> > > http://www.ciao.gov/
> > > http://www.cisecurity.org/
> > > http://www.sans.org/
> > > http://www.nist.gov/
> > >
> > > WKidd
> > >
> > > "Charlie" <> wrote in message
> > > news:YSPyb.276664$ao4.947867@attbi_s51...
> > > > Hey,
> > > >
> > > > I have a number of certs from M$ and make a buck off of them.
> > > > I also consult and recommend biz solutions.
> > > >
> > > > It really bothered me that I couldn't find a truly independent
> benchmark
> > > of
> > > > M$ product due their restrictive EULA so I have been very wary of
> > > > really pushing M$ as a solution.
> > > >
> > > > I lost trust in @Stake's truthfulness and objectivity when they
fired
> > > > their CTO for giving his opinion on M$ and industry security.
> > > > (see: AtStake CTO loses job after Microsoft report)
> > > > http://www.forbes.com/technology/new...tr1092228.html
> > > >
> > > > Now I see that they have FIRED a guy for reporting that M$ uses
> > > > G5's.
> > > >
> > > > I know that they had the security people do it, but that is CRAP.
> > > > It's just a cover....
> > > >
> > > > I REALLY DO NOT TRUST THEM!
> > > >
> > > >
http://www.michaelhanscom.com/eclect...gging_and.html
> > > >
> > > > I certainly am glad that I know more than M$ and they are not my
> > > > main source of income and success.
> > > >
> > > > Be careful if all you know is M$.
> > > > You may not be properly advising your customers.of the best
> solutions.
> > > >
> > > > You can argue the point all day but I believe what I see and what
you
> > do.
> > > > Not what you say.
> > > >
> > > > Enjoy and take care of your customers FIRST!
> > > >
> > > > Charlie
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Yes, honestly - I hope ..... and that's the difference.

¢harlie

<WKidd> wrote in message news:...
> All us MC$Ds are out to make a buck too.
>
>
> "Davin Mickelson" <> wrote in message
> news:uHAj#...
> > What's with the "M$" logo, ¢harlie?
> >
> > There is no reason to do that. It was funny at one time but that was
years
> > ago. All successful companies are in business to make money.
> >
> > Just call them MS or Microsoft. It sustains credibility for you and your
> > statements.
> >
> > > > > I certainly am glad that I know more than M$ and they are not my
> > > > > main source of income and success.
> >
> > Wow.
> >
> > Davin Mickelson
> >
> >
> > "Charlie" <> wrote in message
> > news:0OSyb.277667$ao4.981638@attbi_s51...
> > > Hi WKidd,
> > >
> > > Did you ever read the EULA's
> > > You must agree NOT to publish any benchmarks without M$ approval.
> > >
> > > If they don't like it you can't say it....
> > >
> > > This is what I am referring to....
> > >
> > > Charlie
> > >
> > >
> > > <WKidd> wrote in message news:...
> > > > There are several government and private organizations (independent
of
> > > > Microsoft) who compile performance and security benchmarks of
> Microsoft
> > > and
> > > > other vendor products. Here are just a few:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.tpc.org/tpcc/results/tpcc_perf_results.asp
> > > > www.gsa.gov
> > > > http://www.ciao.gov/
> > > > http://www.cisecurity.org/
> > > > http://www.sans.org/
> > > > http://www.nist.gov/
> > > >
> > > > WKidd
> > > >
> > > > "Charlie" <> wrote in message
> > > > news:YSPyb.276664$ao4.947867@attbi_s51...
> > > > > Hey,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a number of certs from M$ and make a buck off of them.
> > > > > I also consult and recommend biz solutions.
> > > > >
> > > > > It really bothered me that I couldn't find a truly independent
> > benchmark
> > > > of
> > > > > M$ product due their restrictive EULA so I have been very wary of
> > > > > really pushing M$ as a solution.
> > > > >
> > > > > I lost trust in @Stake's truthfulness and objectivity when they
> fired
> > > > > their CTO for giving his opinion on M$ and industry security.
> > > > > (see: AtStake CTO loses job after Microsoft report)
> > > > >
http://www.forbes.com/technology/new...tr1092228.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Now I see that they have FIRED a guy for reporting that M$ uses
> > > > > G5's.
> > > > >
> > > > > I know that they had the security people do it, but that is CRAP.
> > > > > It's just a cover....
> > > > >
> > > > > I REALLY DO NOT TRUST THEM!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> http://www.michaelhanscom.com/eclect...gging_and.html
> > > > >
> > > > > I certainly am glad that I know more than M$ and they are not my
> > > > > main source of income and success.
> > > > >
> > > > > Be careful if all you know is M$.
> > > > > You may not be properly advising your customers.of the best
> > solutions.
> > > > >
> > > > > You can argue the point all day but I believe what I see and what
> you
> > > do.
> > > > > Not what you say.
> > > > >
> > > > > Enjoy and take care of your customers FIRST!
> > > > >
> > > > > Charlie
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Charlie