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Old 11-22-2003, 10:10 PM   #1
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Why Microsoft want close this(MCSD Visual C++)
certification?


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Old 11-23-2003, 11:28 AM   #2
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slayeek wrote:
> Why Microsoft want close this(MCSD Visual C++)
> certification?


Presumably to move as many people as possible onto languages they
effectively control totally.



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Old 11-23-2003, 12:33 PM   #3
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>Presumably to move as many people as possible onto languages they
>effectively control totally.


Yep, C++ is not proprietary where as vb & c# are.


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Old 11-24-2003, 09:38 AM   #4
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you are absolutely right.


"Paul Robson" <> wrote in
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> slayeek wrote:
> > Why Microsoft want close this(MCSD Visual C++)
> > certification?

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> Presumably to move as many people as possible onto languages they
> effectively control totally.
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Old 11-24-2003, 03:55 PM   #5
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Kline Sphere wrote:

>>Presumably to move as many people as possible onto languages they
>>effectively control totally.

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> Yep, C++ is not proprietary where as vb & c# are.


I thought C# had been pushed through the ECMA.



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Old 11-24-2003, 04:45 PM   #6
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I also heard the C# and a part of .NET platform is an ECMA standard. Any
company can grab the specification and create their own tools, compilers,
translators, etc.

BTW: ECMA refused to standarized Java a few years ago, so go for .NET and
C#!

Anyway I passed MSDN exams for VC++ last year and I am happy with it. There
are plenty of so called legacy code (eg. COM components) that I have to deal
with. If I did not have any knowledge about this stuff I would have really
hard time even though I am developing for .NET right now.

Leszek Taratuta

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> Kline Sphere wrote:
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> >>Presumably to move as many people as possible onto languages they
> >>effectively control totally.

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> > Yep, C++ is not proprietary where as vb & c# are.

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> I thought C# had been pushed through the ECMA.
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Old 11-24-2003, 08:21 PM   #7
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>I thought C# had been pushed through the ECMA.

I has been. So was ActiveX - for while, until ms chucked all their
toys out of the pram.


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Old 11-24-2003, 08:22 PM   #8
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>I also heard the C# and a part of .NET platform is an ECMA standard. Any
>company can grab the specification and create their own tools, compilers,
>translators, etc.


I wonder how much money those companies that produced COM for Unix
made?


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Old 11-24-2003, 09:20 PM   #9
 
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What does this mean?

>until ms chucked all their
>toys out of the pram.


C# chucked out of the pram too?

(C# pushed through the ECMA.)
>I has been. So was ActiveX - for while, until ms chucked

all their
>toys out of the pram.
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Old 11-24-2003, 09:30 PM   #10
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>C# chucked out of the pram too?

If too many changes are recommenced which ms do not agree to, then yes
the same will happen; they will take their new toy away so no one else
can play with it.


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