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Mark²
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      02-08-2007
I've never been a Kodak fan, myself, but their latest move against
competitors goes right after their crown jewels... You know...their fat
wallets...that are filled by selling the world ink for the price of gold??

For the first time ever...I like Kodak's attitude.

Here's a funny (and interesting) clip from their site, in connection with
their in-price-busting printer move:


'The Stink on Ink"

Might wanna plug your nose and open a window because here comes the Stink on
Ink...

1. For the cost of 80 mL of ink, you could fill up a luxury SUV in Los
Angeles with 32 gallons of gas--that's over 120,000 mL! But unless you're a
duke or dutchess, don't even think about 120,000 mL of ink... that would
cost over $117,000!

2. 750 mL of ink could fill up an empty champagne bottle. But why do that
when you could purchase more than 3 bottles of expensive champagne for the
same price?! Plus, have you ever tasted ink? Though dangerous, it's actually
pretty delicious, but, still, that's really expensive.

3. One 3.4 oz bottle of luxury perfume could keep most women smelling
fabulous for the better part of a year and some women smelling nice for the
better part of a decade. Good luck surviving on 3.4 oz of printer ink for a
year. Might as well smell nice because Chanel costs about 20% less than ink!

4. Did you know that you would need to buy over $22,000 worth of ink to
paint an average house! For that kind of money, you may as well commission
Michelangelo to paint "The Creation of Adam" on your ceiling!

5. Think oil costs you a boat load of greenbacks? Not compared to the price
of ink. One barrel of oil holds 42 gallons and costs approximately $58
buckaroos. Good thing ink doesn't power your car. At more than $155,000 per
barrel and $3,690 per galloon, you'd have to walk, bike, or skip everywhere
you went!

6. Taking a bath in liquid gold may be a fantasy fit for King Midas, but
it's a thrifty proposition compared to a dip in cyan and magenta. The golden
experience runs about $75,000 in the average tub, but an ink plunge costs
over $185,000! And that's not even factoring in the cost of adding bubbles!

7. You're better off getting sick instead of running out of expensive ink.
100 mL of ink costs the same as 1 gallon of cough and flu syrup! That'll
keep the sniffles away until you're 300-years-old!

8. Could one energy drink a day keep the doctor away? Probably not, but it
would give you boundless energy at a fraction of the price of ink. Only 760
mL of ink would buy you more than 370 cans of energy drink--that's a year's
supply! With that much energy, you could run a marathon or just go to a
library and be really annoying!

9. Did you know that it would take $900 million worth of ink to fill up an
Olympic sized swimming pool? You could fill up over 555 Olympic sized
swimming pools with premium bottled water for that price! Or you could just
pocket the $900 million and go on a shopping spree.


Good stuff...and rather depressing... Let's hope Kodak lights a fire under
the arse of HP, Canon and Epson.
-Mark²

PS- Here's the URL:
http://www.inkisit.com/
Quote is from this page:
http://www.inkisit.com/stinkonink/
The printers in question are:
http://www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQueri...q-locale=en_US
Ink price breakdown (pigment ink, no less... Here:
http://www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQueri...q-locale=en_US


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Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at:
www.pbase.com/markuson


 
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mark.thomas.7@gmail.com
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      02-08-2007
On Feb 8, 3:51 pm, "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number
here)@cox..net> wrote:
> I've never been a Kodak fan, myself, but their latest move against
> competitors goes right after their crown jewels... You know...their fat
> wallets...that are filled by selling the world ink for the price of gold??
>
> For the first time ever...I like Kodak's attitude.

....
> 9. Did you know that it would take $900 million worth of ink to fill up an
> Olympic sized swimming pool? You could fill up over 555 Olympic sized
> swimming pools with premium bottled water for that price! Or you could just
> pocket the $900 million and go on a shopping spree.
>
>
> Good stuff...and rather depressing... Let's hope Kodak lights a fire under
> the arse of HP, Canon and Epson.
> -Mark²
>
> PS- Here's the URL:http://www.inkisit.com/
> Quote is from this page:http://www.inkisit.com/stinkonink/
> The printers in question are:http://www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQueri...581&pq-locale=...
> Ink price breakdown (pigment ink, no less... Here:http://www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQueri...599&pq-locale=...
>
> --
> Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at:
> www.pbase.com/markuson


It does look interesting, but I note that:
- they don't spend a hell of a lot of time pointing out that the costs
are for ink only - I've seen quite few people asking whether their
'cost per print' includes paper and of course it doesn't
- there is no indication of how much is in each cartridge, and that
colour cartridge looks awfully tiny for a five-inker. Can it run out
in mid print and still complete the print without a problem?
- what's to stop them selling a boatload of printers and then hoisting
up the ink price *later*?
- are they going to need lots of cleaning cycles?
- what's the colour, resolution and paper transport quality/accuracy/
consistency (which made the cheap Lexmark's so awful) actually going
to be like?
- will there be A3 or larger versions?

Yeah, so I'm a pessimist.. )O;

And lastly, if the ratio is as Kodak states, *their* ink would only
cost $406 million to fill that pool.. Yaaay, now we're talkin'!!

 
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frederick
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      02-08-2007
wrote:
> On Feb 8, 3:51 pm, "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number
> here)@cox..net> wrote:
>> I've never been a Kodak fan, myself, but their latest move against
>> competitors goes right after their crown jewels... You know...their fat
>> wallets...that are filled by selling the world ink for the price of gold??
>>
>> For the first time ever...I like Kodak's attitude.

> ...
>> 9. Did you know that it would take $900 million worth of ink to fill up an
>> Olympic sized swimming pool? You could fill up over 555 Olympic sized
>> swimming pools with premium bottled water for that price! Or you could just
>> pocket the $900 million and go on a shopping spree.
>>
>>
>> Good stuff...and rather depressing... Let's hope Kodak lights a fire under
>> the arse of HP, Canon and Epson.
>> -Mark²
>>
>> PS- Here's the URL:http://www.inkisit.com/
>> Quote is from this page:http://www.inkisit.com/stinkonink/
>> The printers in question are:http://www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQueri...581&pq-locale=...
>> Ink price breakdown (pigment ink, no less... Here:http://www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQueri...599&pq-locale=...
>>
>> --
>> Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by Mark² at:
>> www.pbase.com/markuson

>
> It does look interesting, but I note that:
> - they don't spend a hell of a lot of time pointing out that the costs
> are for ink only - I've seen quite few people asking whether their
> 'cost per print' includes paper and of course it doesn't


Actually it does - in the link given above and repeated here:
http://www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQueri...q-locale=en_US

> - there is no indication of how much is in each cartridge, and that
> colour cartridge looks awfully tiny for a five-inker. Can it run out
> in mid print and still complete the print without a problem?


Does it matter if a pack costing $20 (ink AND paper) does 135 6x4
prints? If you're in the midst of a 6x4 and it runs out and ruins one
print, then it cost you very little.

> - what's to stop them selling a boatload of printers and then hoisting
> up the ink price *later*?

Nothing - it's a "free" market. If corporations wish to commit
commercial suicide, they are free to do that.
> - are they going to need lots of cleaning cycles?

No idea - but Epson and HP do with their pigment ink printers.
> - what's the colour, resolution and paper transport quality/accuracy/
> consistency (which made the cheap Lexmark's so awful) actually going
> to be like?

Wait for independent reviews I guess - photo-i.co.uk are about as
thorough and independent as I've seen, but it might be a while before
the printers hit the US market.
> - will there be A3 or larger versions?
>

Wouldn't that be nice - but I guess my local computer shop sells at
least 10 a4 printers to one a3+.
>
> Yeah, so I'm a pessimist.. )O;

Me too - when something sounds too good to be true, then ...
>
> And lastly, if the ratio is as Kodak states, *their* ink would only
> cost $406 million to fill that pool.. Yaaay, now we're talkin'!!
>

It costs only a few dollars a litre to make - there's still plenty of
margin left at "half price".
 
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Tzortzakakis Dimitrios
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      02-08-2007

Ï "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> Ýãñáøå óôï ìÞíõìá
news:5Tyyh.42988$...
> I've never been a Kodak fan, myself, but their latest move against
> competitors goes right after their crown jewels... You know...their fat
> wallets...that are filled by selling the world ink for the price of gold??
>
> For the first time ever...I like Kodak's attitude.
>
> Here's a funny (and interesting) clip from their site, in connection with
> their in-price-busting printer move:
>
>
> 'The Stink on Ink"
>
> Might wanna plug your nose and open a window because here comes the Stink

on
> Ink...
>
> 1. For the cost of 80 mL of ink, you could fill up a luxury SUV in Los
> Angeles with 32 gallons of gas--that's over 120,000 mL! But unless you're

a
> duke or dutchess, don't even think about 120,000 mL of ink... that would
> cost over $117,000!
>
> 2. 750 mL of ink could fill up an empty champagne bottle. But why do that
> when you could purchase more than 3 bottles of expensive champagne for the
> same price?! Plus, have you ever tasted ink? Though dangerous, it's

actually
> pretty delicious, but, still, that's really expensive.
>
> 3. One 3.4 oz bottle of luxury perfume could keep most women smelling
> fabulous for the better part of a year and some women smelling nice for

the
> better part of a decade. Good luck surviving on 3.4 oz of printer ink for

a
> year. Might as well smell nice because Chanel costs about 20% less than

ink!
>
> 4. Did you know that you would need to buy over $22,000 worth of ink to
> paint an average house! For that kind of money, you may as well commission
> Michelangelo to paint "The Creation of Adam" on your ceiling!
>
> 5. Think oil costs you a boat load of greenbacks? Not compared to the

price
> of ink. One barrel of oil holds 42 gallons and costs approximately $58
> buckaroos. Good thing ink doesn't power your car. At more than $155,000

per
> barrel and $3,690 per galloon, you'd have to walk, bike, or skip

everywhere
> you went!
>
> 6. Taking a bath in liquid gold may be a fantasy fit for King Midas, but
> it's a thrifty proposition compared to a dip in cyan and magenta. The

golden
> experience runs about $75,000 in the average tub, but an ink plunge costs
> over $185,000! And that's not even factoring in the cost of adding

bubbles!
>
> 7. You're better off getting sick instead of running out of expensive ink.
> 100 mL of ink costs the same as 1 gallon of cough and flu syrup! That'll
> keep the sniffles away until you're 300-years-old!
>
> 8. Could one energy drink a day keep the doctor away? Probably not, but it
> would give you boundless energy at a fraction of the price of ink. Only

760
> mL of ink would buy you more than 370 cans of energy drink--that's a

year's
> supply! With that much energy, you could run a marathon or just go to a
> library and be really annoying!
>
> 9. Did you know that it would take $900 million worth of ink to fill up an
> Olympic sized swimming pool? You could fill up over 555 Olympic sized
> swimming pools with premium bottled water for that price! Or you could

just
> pocket the $900 million and go on a shopping spree.
>
>
> Good stuff...and rather depressing... Let's hope Kodak lights a fire

under
> the arse of HP, Canon and Epson.
> -Mark²
>
> PS- Here's the URL:
> http://www.inkisit.com/
> Quote is from this page:
> http://www.inkisit.com/stinkonink/
> The printers in question are:
> http://www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQueri...q-locale=en_US
> Ink price breakdown (pigment ink, no less... Here:
> http://www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQueri...q-locale=en_US
>

My Canon Pixma iP 4300 cost only 130 euros.It has 5 separate tanks (photo
black, bulk black,yellow, magenta, cyan)I printed at least 70 4X5" and 100
A4 text and 10 A4 photo and one of the tanks is less than half full.(Being
13 ml for photo and 26ml for bulk).Cost is 15 euros for each tank, but you
change only the empty one.I bought some pro HP paper (4X5") 100 sheets for
18 euros with a USB stick 128 MB, and 50 A4 glossy for 25.I have the lexmark
4200 for scanning/faxing.copying/printing, and I have it's cartridge
refilled for cost less than 8 euros.I also have the refill kit for the
lexmark z605 tanks 16 (or 17) that goes with 15 euros 100 ml generic black
ink...




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> My Canon Pixma iP 4300 cost only 130 euros.It has 5 separate tanks (photo
> black, bulk black,yellow, magenta, cyan)I printed at least 70 4X5" and 100
> A4 text and 10 A4 photo and one of the tanks is less than half full.(Being
> 13 ml for photo and 26ml for bulk).Cost is 15 euros for each tank, but you
> change only the empty one.I bought some pro HP paper (4X5") 100 sheets for
> 18 euros with a USB stick 128 MB, and 50 A4 glossy for 25.I have the lexmark
> 4200 for scanning/faxing.copying/printing, and I have it's cartridge
> refilled for cost less than 8 euros.I also have the refill kit for the
> lexmark z605 tanks 16 (or 17) that goes with 15 euros 100 ml generic black
> ink...


FWIW - I've found that five color systems (cyan, magenta, yellow, light
cyan, light magenta) plus black give better looking results. YMMV. I've
also had less than stellar luck with refilling.
 
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