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Roy G
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      02-06-2007

"Eatmorepies" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I've Googled round and round and only find adverts for various papers. So
> what do you exhibition photographers print on?
>
> I've tried various Epson papers but they don't look like the ones I've
> seen in the best exhibitons - neither do my photos but let's concentrate
> on paper.
>
> What papers do you suggest I might buy to get digital prints a step up
> from Epson Premium Glossy? (not that I want glossy in particular).
>
> John


Hi.

A lot of exhibitors, that I know, use "Art Papers" from Perma Jet and other
independant suppliers. These papers are almost always Matt or Semi Matt
finish, and a lot more expensive than Epsons.

One of our local specialised "Art" labs highly recommends Epson Cotton
Canvas.

All these workers use ICC Profiles and Colour Manage for the papers. Some
of the manufacturers do supply Free "Canned" Profiles for a range of
Printers, or will make Custom Profiles at a cost, or Free if you buy a
certain amount of their product.

Roy G


 
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ben
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      02-07-2007
Custom profiles gives better results than canned profiles.Here are few
profiling services that provide these profiles.


http://www.customiccprofiles.com/ - 288 patches - $15 Canadian per
Profile

http://www.inkjetart.com/custom_profiles/ - $25 for "thick paper" 918
patch profile - $25 for "thin paper" 1728 patch profile - $50 for a CD/
DVD Profile

http://donsprofiles.com/index.htm - 918 patches - $29 a profile

http://www.dfaprinting.com/profserv.html - $35 for 729 patch profile -
$45 for 1728 patch profile

http://www.cathysprofiles.com/ - 918 patches - $40 a profile

http://www.drycreekphoto.com/custom/customprofiles.htm - (currently on
hiatus) - $50 a profile

http://www.chromix.com/colorvalet/ - 756 patches - $99 a profile

http://www.rpimaging.com/services/custom_icc_profiling - 729 patches -
$99 a profile

http://www.inkjetmall.com/store/cm/custom-icc.html - 918 patches -
$250 a profile

 
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Ron Hunter
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      02-07-2007
ray wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 20:55:57 +0000, Eatmorepies wrote:
>
>> I've Googled round and round and only find adverts for various papers. So
>> what do you exhibition photographers print on?
>>
>> I've tried various Epson papers but they don't look like the ones I've seen
>> in the best exhibitons - neither do my photos but let's concentrate on
>> paper.
>>
>> What papers do you suggest I might buy to get digital prints a step up from
>> Epson Premium Glossy? (not that I want glossy in particular).
>>
>> John

>
> FWIW - I've read a couple of photography magazine articles in the past
> indicating that there really is a reason to use the paper that the printer
> manufacturer recommends and sells - they match the paper surface with the
> specific inks they sell.
>

True, and in most cases, the chemistry of the ink and paper combine to
produce better images, and may also result in longer lasting pictures
without fade, or color change.
 
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Bob Willard
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      02-07-2007
Eatmorepies wrote:

> I've Googled round and round and only find adverts for various papers. So
> what do you exhibition photographers print on?
>
> I've tried various Epson papers but they don't look like the ones I've seen
> in the best exhibitons - neither do my photos but let's concentrate on
> paper.
>
> What papers do you suggest I might buy to get digital prints a step up from
> Epson Premium Glossy? (not that I want glossy in particular).
>
> John
>
>


I must be dense, but -- if you want hang-on-the-wall quality -- why would you
start with an inkjet printer?
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Cheers, Bob
 
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J. Clarke
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      02-07-2007
On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 07:51:18 -0500, Bob Willard
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>Eatmorepies wrote:
>
>> I've Googled round and round and only find adverts for various papers. So
>> what do you exhibition photographers print on?
>>
>> I've tried various Epson papers but they don't look like the ones I've seen
>> in the best exhibitons - neither do my photos but let's concentrate on
>> paper.
>>
>> What papers do you suggest I might buy to get digital prints a step up from
>> Epson Premium Glossy? (not that I want glossy in particular).
>>
>> John
>>
>>

>
>I must be dense, but -- if you want hang-on-the-wall quality -- why would you
>start with an inkjet printer?


Because it's the 21st century and that's what one uses? Or are you
suggesting that projecting the image of a monitor on wet paper will do
better?
 
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Skip
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      02-07-2007
"Ron Hunter" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> ray wrote:
>> On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 20:55:57 +0000, Eatmorepies wrote:
>>
>>> I've Googled round and round and only find adverts for various papers.
>>> So what do you exhibition photographers print on?
>>>
>>> I've tried various Epson papers but they don't look like the ones I've
>>> seen in the best exhibitons - neither do my photos but let's concentrate
>>> on paper.
>>>
>>> What papers do you suggest I might buy to get digital prints a step up
>>> from Epson Premium Glossy? (not that I want glossy in particular).
>>>
>>> John

>>
>> FWIW - I've read a couple of photography magazine articles in the past
>> indicating that there really is a reason to use the paper that the
>> printer
>> manufacturer recommends and sells - they match the paper surface with the
>> specific inks they sell.
>>

> True, and in most cases, the chemistry of the ink and paper combine to
> produce better images, and may also result in longer lasting pictures
> without fade, or color change.


That's not necessarily true. I've found, and so have many others, that
Ilford, Museo, Moab and other papers produce superior images to any of the
papers offered by the printer mfrs.

--
Skip Middleton
www.shadowcatcherimagery.com
www.pbase.com/skipm


 
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Skip
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      02-07-2007
"Bob Willard" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Eatmorepies wrote:
>
>> I've Googled round and round and only find adverts for various papers. So
>> what do you exhibition photographers print on?
>>
>> I've tried various Epson papers but they don't look like the ones I've
>> seen in the best exhibitons - neither do my photos but let's concentrate
>> on paper.
>>
>> What papers do you suggest I might buy to get digital prints a step up
>> from Epson Premium Glossy? (not that I want glossy in particular).
>>
>> John

>
> I must be dense, but -- if you want hang-on-the-wall quality -- why would
> you
> start with an inkjet printer?
> --
> Cheers, Bob


Control over the print.

--
Skip Middleton
www.shadowcatcherimagery.com
www.pbase.com/skipm


 
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tomm42
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      02-07-2007
On Feb 6, 3:55 pm, "Eatmorepies" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> I've Googled round and round and only find adverts for various papers. So
> what do you exhibition photographers print on?
>
> I've tried various Epson papers but they don't look like the ones I've seen
> in the best exhibitons - neither do my photos but let's concentrate on
> paper.
>
> What papers do you suggest I might buy to get digital prints a step up from
> Epson Premium Glossy? (not that I want glossy in particular).
>
> John



John,
Depends on what you want, if you buy papers at an office supply store,
you won't get the best papers. You also don't say what printer you
have if you have a dye based printer like an Epson 1280 you will be
limited in the paper you can use. Epson markets some very good fine
art papers. The Boston Museum of Fine Art sells painting reproductions
printed on Epson's Ultra Smooth Matte paper, a truely archival matte
paper. Most of the fine art papers are different than the photo
papers, generally have some texture or have a matte finish. Going out
side Epson papers makes profiles a concern, most manufacturers have
canned profiles for most of the top selling printers. If you don't
like those results then custom profiles are necessary. Much easier to
use profiles than wasting paper on the trial and error technique.
Many of the independent paper manufacturers sell samples, these are
often limited because you just don't get enough samples to get an idea
of how to best use your printer with these papers. But independents
like Crane, Hannemulle, Hawk Mountain, Innova, Media Street, Moab,
Parrot Digital, Red River all sell excellent papers (may have
forgotten a few).
www.inkjetart.com sells a large range of papers and has good advice.
If you buy by price, www.itsupplies.com and www.atlex.com both have
good choices of fine art papers at excellent prices but you may have
to look else where for profiles and specific advice.

Good lick
Tom

 
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Bob Willard
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      02-07-2007
J. Clarke wrote:

> On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 07:51:18 -0500, Bob Willard
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>
>>Eatmorepies wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I've Googled round and round and only find adverts for various papers. So
>>>what do you exhibition photographers print on?
>>>
>>>I've tried various Epson papers but they don't look like the ones I've seen
>>>in the best exhibitons - neither do my photos but let's concentrate on
>>>paper.
>>>
>>>What papers do you suggest I might buy to get digital prints a step up from
>>>Epson Premium Glossy? (not that I want glossy in particular).
>>>
>>>John
>>>
>>>

>>
>>I must be dense, but -- if you want hang-on-the-wall quality -- why would you
>>start with an inkjet printer?

>
>
> Because it's the 21st century and that's what one uses? Or are you
> suggesting that projecting the image of a monitor on wet paper will do
> better?


You can use what you want. When I want a high-quality print to hang on my wall,
I take the .JPG to a professional photo shop, along with instructions on how to
print it. I only use my inkjets when I'll accept relatively low quality.
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Cheers, Bob
 
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David Dyer-Bennet
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      02-07-2007
Bob Willard wrote:

> I must be dense, but -- if you want hang-on-the-wall quality -- why
> would you
> start with an inkjet printer?


What *else* would you reasonably consider starting with? Dye transfer
(but there are damned few people still doing it, and inkjet printing is
better for a remarkably large number of pictures) and B&W wet darkroom
are the possible answers I come up with, and I have done enough quadtone
inkjet to not be at all sure if web B&W darkroom is better for most
pictures.
 
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