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I've Googled round and round and only find adverts for various papers. So
what do you exhibition photographers print on?

I've tried various Epson papers but they don't look like the ones I've seen
in the best exhibitons - neither do my photos but let's concentrate on
paper.

What papers do you suggest I might buy to get digital prints a step up from
Epson Premium Glossy? (not that I want glossy in particular).

John

On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 20:55:57 +0000, Eatmorepies wrote:

> I've Googled round and round and only find adverts for various papers. So
> what do you exhibition photographers print on?
>
> I've tried various Epson papers but they don't look like the ones I've seen
> in the best exhibitons - neither do my photos but let's concentrate on
> paper.
>
> What papers do you suggest I might buy to get digital prints a step up from
> Epson Premium Glossy? (not that I want glossy in particular).
>
> John

FWIW - I've read a couple of photography magazine articles in the past
indicating that there really is a reason to use the paper that the printer
manufacturer recommends and sells - they match the paper surface with the
specific inks they sell.

> On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 20:55:57 +0000, Eatmorepies wrote:
>
>> I've Googled round and round and only find adverts for various papers. So
>> what do you exhibition photographers print on?

Ilford Semi-Matte is worth a look. I was surprised to find that, for a matte
paper, it had a higher dMax than Epson glossy photo paper. I did not test
against PGPP.
--

Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com/forum/

Eatmorepies wrote:
> I've Googled round and round and only find adverts for various
> papers. So what do you exhibition photographers print on?
>
> I've tried various Epson papers but they don't look like the ones
> I've seen in the best exhibitons - neither do my photos but let's
> concentrate on paper.
>
> What papers do you suggest I might buy to get digital prints a step
> up from Epson Premium Glossy? (not that I want glossy in particular).
>
> John

InkJet results depend on four factors. The image, the printer, the ink
and the paper. They all work together. Now add in the fact that quality is
a very subjective think, you can get a lot of different answers.

How about telling us what printer ink and paper combonation you like
best or are using now?

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia 's Muire duit

On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 17:05:34 -0500, in rec.photo.digital "Joseph Meehan"
<> wrote:

>Eatmorepies wrote:
>> I've Googled round and round and only find adverts for various
>> papers. So what do you exhibition photographers print on?
>>
>> I've tried various Epson papers but they don't look like the ones
>> I've seen in the best exhibitons - neither do my photos but let's
>> concentrate on paper.
>>
>> What papers do you suggest I might buy to get digital prints a step
>> up from Epson Premium Glossy? (not that I want glossy in particular).
>>
>> John
>
> InkJet results depend on four factors. The image, the printer, the ink
>and the paper. They all work together. Now add in the fact that quality is
>a very subjective think, you can get a lot of different answers.
>
> How about telling us what printer ink and paper combonation you like
>best or are using now?

I would also add the application the image is being printed from using the
appropriate IIC profile for the paper/ink combination being used.
--
Ed Ruf ()
http://edwardgruf.com/Digital_Photog...ral/index.html

Eatmorepies wrote

> What papers do you suggest I might buy to get digital prints a step up
> from Epson Premium Glossy? (not that I want glossy in particular).

I've had much much better results from my Epson printer
with Ilford Pearl than any of the Epson papers. You just
have to knock the Magenta back 20%

Chris

On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 22:49:31 GMT, in rec.photo.digital "Chris Gilbert"
<> wrote:

>Eatmorepies wrote
>
>> What papers do you suggest I might buy to get digital prints a step up
>> from Epson Premium Glossy? (not that I want glossy in particular).
>
>I've had much much better results from my Epson printer
>with Ilford Pearl than any of the Epson papers. You just
>have to knock the Magenta back 20%

Is this in a color managed work flow with an appropriate paper/ink
combination ICC profile?
--
Ed Ruf ()
http://edwardgruf.com/Digital_Photog...ral/index.html

Ed Ruf wrote

> Is this in a color managed work flow with an appropriate paper/ink
> combination ICC profile?

Trial, error and peristance, Ed.

Chris

On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 23:03:52 GMT, in rec.photo.digital "Chris Gilbert"
<> wrote:

>Ed Ruf wrote
>
>> Is this in a color managed work flow with an appropriate paper/ink
>> combination ICC profile?
>
>Trial, error and peristance, Ed.

Thanks. Did you start with a managed work flow and profile or just brute
force it? If so have you ever tried the former. I get quite good results on
an R800 using the old Costco paper rumoured to be made by Ilford with one
of their profiles printing using Qimage. Also get great results on several
Epson papers using their profiles as well.
--
Ed Ruf ()
http://edwardgruf.com/Digital_Photog...ral/index.html

Ed Ruf wrote

> Did you start with a managed work flow and profile or just brute
> force it?

Brute force. Even the recommended Ilford settings were inadequate.
If I was volume printing then I would definitely have to be more ordered
about the whole thing, if only to guarantee consistency of output. At
the moment, if I volume print then its off to the on-line print shop with
it.

> I get quite good results on
> an R800 using the old Costco paper rumoured to be made by Ilford with one
> of their profiles printing using Qimage. Also get great results on several
> Epson papers using their profiles as well.

It's all a bit frustratingly black art at times. Thanks for the tips.

Chris