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Hi,

I recently ordered some 6x4 prints from Jessops' in-store digital photo
maker. When I received the prints I noticed that they had all been
cropped in such a way that some of the image was missing from the top
and bottom.
Therefore can you please advise me as to the best height to width ratio
(i.e. when the width is x the height should be y) for images to be so
that when they are printed in 6x4 they are not cropped?
The original image from the camera is 2816x2112 pixels.


Many Thanks

Andrew

"Petaman" <> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I recently ordered some 6x4 prints from Jessops' in-store digital photo
> maker. When I received the prints I noticed that they had all been
> cropped in such a way that some of the image was missing from the top
> and bottom.
> Therefore can you please advise me as to the best height to width ratio
> (i.e. when the width is x the height should be y) for images to be so
> that when they are printed in 6x4 they are not cropped?
> The original image from the camera is 2816x2112 pixels.
>
>
> Many Thanks
>
> Andrew
>

Hi Andrew!
In my opinion, you should crop yourself every photo you want printed.
The number of pixels (width and height) are such that you will never get a
complete 4x6, 5x7 or 8x10. Some of the picture will be left off. By cropping
the photos yourself, you can ensure some control over what's to be left off.
If you use such programs as Photoshop, Photo Elements or other, they will
let you crop a"standard" width and height. Thus, the photos you send to be
printed are already trimmed in standard size.
Take care,
Marcel

Petaman wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I recently ordered some 6x4 prints from Jessops' in-store digital photo
> maker. When I received the prints I noticed that they had all been
> cropped in such a way that some of the image was missing from the top
> and bottom.
> Therefore can you please advise me as to the best height to width ratio
> (i.e. when the width is x the height should be y) for images to be so
> that when they are printed in 6x4 they are not cropped?
> The original image from the camera is 2816x2112 pixels.

Your camera produces a ratio of 4:3 and a 6x4 photo has a ratio of 3:2

4:3 is taller than 3:2 and that is why you're missing some from the top
and bottom.

Leave the image width the same and crop 235 vertical pixels. That will
get them to the right ratio... (2816 X 1877)

On Dec 31, 11:40 am, "Petaman" <symon...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I recently ordered some 6x4 prints from Jessops' in-store digital photo
> maker. When I received the prints I noticed that they had all been
> cropped in such a way that some of the image was missing from the top
> and bottom.
> Therefore can you please advise me as to the best height to width ratio
> (i.e. when the width is x the height should be y) for images to be so
> that when they are printed in 6x4 they are not cropped?
> The original image from the camera is 2816x2112 pixels.
>
> Many Thanks
>
> Andrew

Hi Andrew,

Well, this may be obvious, but a 6x4 (4x6) print is a 1.5:1 ratio,
whereas you image is a 1.33:1 ratio, thus, there will have to be some
cropping involved. The issue is you picture is wider than the ultimate
print will be. Now, a 5x7 print is 1.4:1 and will be closer to what
you want, but will still incur some cropping. If you want to ensure
that you images are cropped in the way you want them to be, you will
need to crop them yourself.

For a 6x4 you will need the image to be 2816x1877 and for a 7x5 you
will need it to be 2816x2011.

Bates....

"Petaman" <> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I recently ordered some 6x4 prints from Jessops' in-store digital photo
> maker. When I received the prints I noticed that they had all been
> cropped in such a way that some of the image was missing from the top
> and bottom.
> Therefore can you please advise me as to the best height to width ratio
> (i.e. when the width is x the height should be y) for images to be so
> that when they are printed in 6x4 they are not cropped?
> The original image from the camera is 2816x2112 pixels.
>
>
> Many Thanks
>
> Andrew

Your Digital camera, like most others, takes a picture which, when it is 6
inches wide is 4 and a half inches tall.

So if you want a 6 x 4 print, half an inch needs cropped off the narrow
side.

Just remember to allow some extra space to ensure bits of people don't get
chopped by the auto machines.

Check your pixel sizes and you will find they are in the proportion of 4 x
3. Paper sizes are not in the same proportions.

On Dec 31, 11:40 am, "Petaman" <symon...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I recently ordered some 6x4 prints from Jessops' in-store digital photo
> maker. When I received the prints I noticed that they had all been
> cropped in such a way that some of the image was missing from the top
> and bottom.
> Therefore can you please advise me as to the best height to width ratio
> (i.e. when the width is x the height should be y) for images to be so
> that when they are printed in 6x4 they are not cropped?
> The original image from the camera is 2816x2112 pixels.
>
> Many Thanks
>
> Andrew

Hi Andrew,

Well, this may be obvious, but a 6x4 (4x6) print is a 1.5:1 ratio,
whereas you image is a 1.33:1 ratio, thus, there will have to be some
cropping involved. The issue is you picture is wider than the ultimate
print will be. Now, a 5x7 print is 1.4:1 and will be closer to what
you want, but will still incur some cropping. If you want to ensure
that you images are cropped in the way you want them to be, you will
need to crop them yourself.

For a 6x4 you will need the image to be 2816x1877 and for a 7x5 you
will need it to be 2816x2011.

Bates....

Hmm.. here they usually give you a choice if you want the paper filled and
your image cropped or if you want white boarders that you can trim later.

"Petaman" <> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> Hi,
>
> I recently ordered some 6x4 prints from Jessops' in-store digital photo
> maker. When I received the prints I noticed that they had all been
> cropped in such a way that some of the image was missing from the top
> and bottom.
> Therefore can you please advise me as to the best height to width ratio
> (i.e. when the width is x the height should be y) for images to be so
> that when they are printed in 6x4 they are not cropped?
> The original image from the camera is 2816x2112 pixels.
>
>
> Many Thanks
>
> Andrew
>

Petaman wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I recently ordered some 6x4 prints from Jessops' in-store digital photo
> maker. When I received the prints I noticed that they had all been
> cropped in such a way that some of the image was missing from the top
> and bottom.
> Therefore can you please advise me as to the best height to width ratio
> (i.e. when the width is x the height should be y) for images to be so
> that when they are printed in 6x4 they are not cropped?
> The original image from the camera is 2816x2112 pixels.
>
>

Pretty normal.

Images are 4:3 (12:9) and prints are 3:2 (12:,
meaning you lose some vertically. Best is to crop
them yourself in a computer before having them
printed. That way you will get what you expect.

Phil

On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 08:40:36 -0800, Petaman wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I recently ordered some 6x4 prints from Jessops' in-store digital photo
> maker. When I received the prints I noticed that they had all been
> cropped in such a way that some of the image was missing from the top
> and bottom.
> Therefore can you please advise me as to the best height to width ratio
> (i.e. when the width is x the height should be y) for images to be so
> that when they are printed in 6x4 they are not cropped?
> The original image from the camera is 2816x2112 pixels.
>
>
> Many Thanks
>
> Andrew

6x4 is, quite obviously, a 3:2 aspect ratio. Most digital cameras, by
default, do 4:3. Some of them will have a setting to do 3:2 (my Kodak P850
does). 2816x1877 should work for you.

In article <45981ca3$0$20024$> Phil Wheeler <wt6uh-> writes:
$Petaman wrote:
$> I recently ordered some 6x4 prints from Jessops' in-store digital photo
[...]
$> Therefore can you please advise me as to the best height to width ratio

You just cited the ratio above: 6x4 is a 3:2 ratio.

$Images are 4:3 (12:9) and prints are 3:2 (12:

Just to make this more general ... those numbers are true for the
original poster's specific camera and specific print size. In general,
most DSLRs are 3:2 (except for those using the four-thirds system) and
most other digital cameras are 4:3. Many digital cameras allow the
user to pick from a variety of image sizes, and while in the past the
sizes offered by a given camera are all in the same ratio, there are
some cameras now that allow the user to choose image sizes of *different*
ratios, such as 4:3, 3:2, or even 16:9 (the ratio of widescreen TV).
Check the manual for your camera to find out what it offers; if it
doesn't give you the ratio, a calculator will tell you.

4x6" is the most common standard print size in this part of the world;
I don't know if it is elsewhere. But other standard print sizes are
not necessarily in the same ratio: 4x6, 5x7, and 8x10 are all common
print sizes, and all have different ratios. So if you really like
that 4x6 and want it printed as an 8x10, you have to keep in mind that
it will end up cropped. (Some printers will do 8x12, which is the same
ratio as 4x6, and which solves that problem, but then you have to find
a frame for an 8x12, and that's not a standard frame size - 8x10 is.)

$ Best is to crop
$them yourself in a computer before having them
$printed. That way you will get what you expect.

Agreed.

One other thing to keep in mind is that even if you provide them
with a file that's exactly in the right ratio, you're still probably
going to lose some pixels off each side. Most printing machines do
this, for a couple of reasons. One is that there is some mechanical
slop within the machine; not everything is perfectly aligned. If
they printed your picture at exactly 4x6", chances are pretty good
that some of your pictures would end up with a bit of white space on
one side, or perhaps a sliver of the next/previous photo on one side.
So printing machines are typically designed to print the picture
slightly larger than it ought to be, on paper that's the right size,
leading to slight cropping.

The other is mostly historical: most film SLRs display slightly
less than 100% of the image in the viewfinder, and most non-SLRs
with optical viewfinders (e.g. rangefinders or point and shoots, and
that includes digital P&Ses which provide optical viewfinders)
have the potential for parallax. So what you saw through the viewfinder
is not precisely what ends up being captured when you take the picture;
some other stuff that you thought was outside the field of view may
actually be within the image. If the printer crops the edges off the
frame when printing, it reduces the chances of this being a problem.
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