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I still have time to cancel out the Rebel XTi 400D order. What is the
cheapest full frame sensor camera, and does it obviate the need to
purchase additional lenses in order to be worth the money?

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> I still have time to cancel out the Rebel XTi 400D order. What is the
> cheapest full frame sensor camera, and does it obviate the need to
> purchase additional lenses in order to be worth the money?

Canon 5D.

But if you have to ask this question, I would seriously recommend that you
stick with the Rebel for the time being. If you're that unfamiliar, you
likely won't be doing yourself any favors by starting with a much more picky
full-frame camera.

"Additional lenses"??
That all depends on what your intentions are. There are too many aspects to
that answer to write them all down at 5:30AM... See the above two
sentences...

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wrote:
> I still have time to cancel out the Rebel XTi 400D order. What is the
> cheapest full frame sensor camera, and does it obviate the need to
> purchase additional lenses in order to be worth the money?


Most Canon lenses will work with the XTi. Is that the only reason you
want a full frame sensor?

If you are looking for a full frame sensor in order to improve quality,
I would not be looking for the cheapest one.

There are many factors that should be considered when buying a camera
and it appears you may be ignoring some of them.

How well a camera fits you hands for example is more important than most
people realize. Also very important is how the camera works, that is how
the user interface (the controls) function and how they fit you way of doing
things.



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Joseph Meehan

Dia 's Muire duit

Joseph Meehan wrote:
> wrote:
>> I still have time to cancel out the Rebel XTi 400D order. What is
>> the cheapest full frame sensor camera, and does it obviate the need
>> to purchase additional lenses in order to be worth the money?
>
>
> Most Canon lenses will work with the XTi. Is that the only reason
> you want a full frame sensor?
>
> If you are looking for a full frame sensor in order to improve
> quality, I would not be looking for the cheapest one.

Oh?
The "cheapest" is the excellent Canon 5D (which is one...of a grand total of
TWO currently manufactured full-frame bodies...along with the $7K Cnaon 1Ds
Mark II).


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On Nov 4, 8:38 am, "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number
here)@cox..net> wrote:
> Canon 5D

Hey, dude, it's not nice to mock less informed posters, even at 5:30 AM.

Not mocking, that is indeed the least expensive full frame camera on the
market. As far as additional lenses, in addition to what? What lenses do
you already own?
And now it's 5:50 am...

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"Skip" <> wrote in message
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> Not mocking, that is indeed the least expensive full frame camera on the
> market. As far as additional lenses, in addition to what? What lenses do
> you already own?
> And now it's 5:50 am...

Yer clock's busted; it's 10:57 pm or so...

David J. Littleboy
Tokyo, Japan

<> wrote in message
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>I still have time to cancel out the Rebel XTi 400D order. What is the
> cheapest full frame sensor camera, and does it obviate the need to
> purchase additional lenses in order to be worth the money?
>

As other's said, the 5D. It is 4x the price. Do you have lenses now? The
Extra $2K+ difference will buy some decent glass. If you do a lot of long
focal length shooting, the Rebel is to your advantage anyway.
John

Mark² wrote:
> Joseph Meehan wrote:
>> wrote:
>>> I still have time to cancel out the Rebel XTi 400D order. What is
>>> the cheapest full frame sensor camera, and does it obviate the need
>>> to purchase additional lenses in order to be worth the money?
>>
>>
>> Most Canon lenses will work with the XTi. Is that the only reason
>> you want a full frame sensor?
>>
>> If you are looking for a full frame sensor in order to improve
>> quality, I would not be looking for the cheapest one.
>
> Oh?
> The "cheapest" is the excellent Canon 5D (which is one...of a grand
> total of TWO currently manufactured full-frame bodies...along with
> the $7K Cnaon 1Ds Mark II).
>

I thought there were a couple of far more expensive models, like 20K+
Maybe they are gone or they were just a fignewton of my imagination.

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Joseph Meehan

Dia 's Muire duit

On 4 Nov 2006 05:13:32 -0800, wrote:

>I still have time to cancel out the Rebel XTi 400D order. What is the
>cheapest full frame sensor camera, and does it obviate the need to
>purchase additional lenses in order to be worth the money?

As others have pointed out, the Canon is the cheapest full-frame DSLR
being marketed now.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos5d/

Does it obviate the need to purchase additional lenses in order to be
worth the money? Depends. What lenses do you have now? How good do you
want your pics to be? The 5D will take advantage of the best lenses
you can buy. Canon makes some very nice "L" series lenses that are of
very good quality, and Canon's pride in these lenses is evident in
their prices.

But I would caution you; since your knowledge of DSLRs doesn't seem to
extend beyond setting the camera to full auto mode and not
understanding why the camera does what it does, it might be better to
stick with the XTi to gain some basic understanding of the interaction
between the shutter speed, aperture and ISO settings, and how you can
manipulate them to get what you want, before you buy a 5D. (If you
don't know how to drive, buying a $100,000 car makes little sense.)
Gain some knowledge (there are many fine on-line tutorials, and a
*lot* of good books on basic photography principles) first, then see
what suits your needs and proficiency level. Don't fall for the "full
frame uber alles" idea; full frame isn't a necessity for good
pictures. What's far more important is a knowledge of how to use what
you have. There's nothing wrong with the XTI; it has a lot of the
functionality the 5D has. The APS-C sensor isn't a drawback, it's just
smaller than full frame. For many (myself included), the crop factor
that, in effect, multiplies the focal length of a lens by 1.6x is an
advantage. If you don't need wide angle, there's no problem. If you
do, there are several lenses that go down to 10mm (16mm equilivant on
the XTI).
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Bill Funk
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