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Phil Stovell
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      10-30-2006
On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:29:03 +0000, Paul Heslop wrote:

> Phil Stovell wrote:
>
>> Cross-posted to uk.legal, where the increasing use of police state
>> tactics is of interest.
>>
>> --
>> Phil Stovell, South Hampshire, UK
>>
>> "They said I should not take him to the police, but rather let him pay a
>> dowry for my goat because he used it as his wife"

>
> I'm glad you did that and not me :O)


A car with blacked out windscreens just parked opposite my house and

NO CARRIER

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Alex Heney
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      10-30-2006
On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:23:22 +0000, Phil Stovell <>
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>>
>> He said he is unable to work and wants an apology for the stress caused to
>> him by the arrest and compensation for the loss of the equipment.
>>
>> A Northumbria Police spokesman said: "Police officers are aware of the
>> need to work with the media and let reporters and photographers carry out
>> their jobs when covering events which are happening in public places.
>>
>> "However the actions of the media must not compromise police operations,
>> put anyone in danger or obstruct the police.
>>
>> "In this case, officers were concerned that media attention could have
>> exacerbated what was already a tense situation with a man threatening to
>> jump from the Tyne Bridge.
>>
>> "This led to an arrest for breach of the peace."

>


I can understand their argument as to why media type photography could
exacerbate the situation,and therefore can understand why they might
arrest him if he refused to stop setting up.

But NOTHING gives them any excuse for handcuffing him if he was coming
peacefully.

And NOTHING excuses them leaving his equipment on the pavement.
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      10-30-2006
On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:23:22 +0000, Phil Stovell wrote:

> On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 12:00:34 +0000, Paul Heslop wrote:
>
>> http://tinyurl.com/yepyj4
>>
>>
>> Snapper to sue police
>>
>> Oct 29 2006
>>
>> By Sarah Robertson, The Sunday Sun
>>
>> A furious Press photographer is to sue a North police force for false
>> arrest, claiming he also lost £8000 worth of equipment after being
>> cuffed.
>>
>> Marc McMahon, who was working with his daughter Carly, 16, said the
>> incident was sparked when he tried to take a picture of a man
>> threatening to jump off Newcastle's Tyne Bridge.
>>
>> He was approached by two police officers and one said he couldn't take
>> photographs, despite seeing his ID.
>>
>> Marc, 36, said: "I told the officer we were well within our rights to
>> take photos as there was no police cordon, it was a public place and
>> there were other people standing about taking photographs."
>>
>> He began setting up his equipment and the officer arrested him for a
>> breach of the peace.
>>
>> Marc, of Longbenton, North Tyneside, alleges that when his daughter
>> tried to take a photo of him being arrested with her mobile phone it was
>> knocked out of her hand and damaged.
>>
>> He said: "Despite me having a camera body in one hand and a monopod in
>> the other I held my hands out for him to allow him to put his handcuffs
>> on me.
>>
>> "When the van arrived to take me to the station I asked the officer to
>> collect my equipment that was still on the pavement, but I was ignored."
>>
>> Marc was kept in the cells for 10 minutes and claims when he was
>> released he asked for the paperwork for his arrest, only to be given a
>> Post-It note with the incident number on and date.
>>
>> His equipment has never been found and he claims CCTV footage shows a
>> man walking away from the scene with a black backpack that looked like
>> his camera bag.
>>
>> Mr McMahon has asked his solicitor Peter Dodds to file a complaint
>> against Northumbria Police for aggressive assault, unlawful arrest,
>> unlawful detainment and excessive use of force on October 17. He also
>> made a complaint for negligence for the loss of his camera bag.
>>
>> He said he is unable to work and wants an apology for the stress caused
>> to him by the arrest and compensation for the loss of the equipment.
>>
>> A Northumbria Police spokesman said: "Police officers are aware of the
>> need to work with the media and let reporters and photographers carry
>> out their jobs when covering events which are happening in public
>> places.
>>
>> "However the actions of the media must not compromise police operations,
>> put anyone in danger or obstruct the police.
>>
>> "In this case, officers were concerned that media attention could have
>> exacerbated what was already a tense situation with a man threatening to
>> jump from the Tyne Bridge.
>>
>> "This led to an arrest for breach of the peace."

>
> Cross-posted to uk.legal, where the increasing use of police state tactics
> is of interest.


No no no, they are only interested in sex cases here. Pedo related is best.


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Joan
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      10-30-2006
Why didn't the daughter look after the camera gear?

What happened to the camera body that was in his hand?

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"Paul Heslop" <> wrote in message
news:...
http://tinyurl.com/yepyj4


Snapper to sue police

Oct 29 2006

By Sarah Robertson, The Sunday Sun

A furious Press photographer is to sue a North police force for false
arrest, claiming he also lost £8000 worth of equipment after being
cuffed.

Marc McMahon, who was working with his daughter Carly, 16, said the
incident was sparked when he tried to take a picture of a man
threatening to jump off Newcastle's Tyne Bridge.

He was approached by two police officers and one said he couldn't take
photographs, despite seeing his ID.

Marc, 36, said: "I told the officer we were well within our rights to
take photos as there was no police cordon, it was a public place and
there were other people standing about taking photographs."

He began setting up his equipment and the officer arrested him for a
breach of the peace.

Marc, of Longbenton, North Tyneside, alleges that when his daughter
tried to take a photo of him being arrested with her mobile phone it
was knocked out of her hand and damaged.

He said: "Despite me having a camera body in one hand and a monopod in
the other I held my hands out for him to allow him to put his
handcuffs on me.

"When the van arrived to take me to the station I asked the officer to
collect my equipment that was still on the pavement, but I was
ignored."

Marc was kept in the cells for 10 minutes and claims when he was
released he asked for the paperwork for his arrest, only to be given a
Post-It note with the incident number on and date.

His equipment has never been found and he claims CCTV footage shows a
man walking away from the scene with a black backpack that looked like
his camera bag.

Mr McMahon has asked his solicitor Peter Dodds to file a complaint
against Northumbria Police for aggressive assault, unlawful arrest,
unlawful detainment and excessive use of force on October 17.
He also made a complaint for negligence for the loss of his camera
bag.

He said he is unable to work and wants an apology for the stress
caused to him by the arrest and compensation for the loss of the
equipment.

A Northumbria Police spokesman said: "Police officers are aware of the
need to work with the media and let reporters and photographers carry
out their jobs when covering events which are happening in public
places.

"However the actions of the media must not compromise police
operations, put anyone in danger or obstruct the police.

"In this case, officers were concerned that media attention could have
exacerbated what was already a tense situation with a man threatening
to jump from the Tyne Bridge.

"This led to an arrest for breach of the peace."


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Paul Heslop
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      10-30-2006
Phil Stovell wrote:
>
> On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:29:03 +0000, Paul Heslop wrote:
>
> > Phil Stovell wrote:
> >
> >> Cross-posted to uk.legal, where the increasing use of police state
> >> tactics is of interest.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Phil Stovell, South Hampshire, UK
> >>
> >> "They said I should not take him to the police, but rather let him pay a
> >> dowry for my goat because he used it as his wife"

> >
> > I'm glad you did that and not me :O)

>
> A car with blacked out windscreens just parked opposite my house and
>
> NO CARRIER
>
> --
> Phil Stovell, South Hampshire, UK


:O))

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Paul Heslop
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      10-30-2006
Joan wrote:
>
> Why didn't the daughter look after the camera gear?
>
> What happened to the camera body that was in his hand?
>
> --
> Joan
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/joan-in-manly


good questions, it doesn't mention daughter after her getting her
camera phone knocked out of her hand, so we have to assume she was
either crying over it or running after dad. Assumption also that he
actually took camera body etc with him... but I just found this
article which says that the daughter is his assistant! Surely she
should have wrapped everything up for him?

http://tinyurl.com/ybtkob



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Mike
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      10-30-2006

"Phil Stovell" <> wrote in message
news ...
> On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 12:00:34 +0000, Paul Heslop wrote:
>
>> http://tinyurl.com/yepyj4
>>
>>
>> Snapper to sue police
>>
>> Oct 29 2006
>>
>> By Sarah Robertson, The Sunday Sun
>>
>> A furious Press photographer is to sue a North police force for false
>> arrest, claiming he also lost £8000 worth of equipment after being
>> cuffed.
>>
>> Marc McMahon, who was working with his daughter Carly, 16, said the
>> incident was sparked when he tried to take a picture of a man threatening
>> to jump off Newcastle's Tyne Bridge.
>>
>> He was approached by two police officers and one said he couldn't take
>> photographs, despite seeing his ID.
>>
>> Marc, 36, said: "I told the officer we were well within our rights to
>> take
>> photos as there was no police cordon, it was a public place and there
>> were
>> other people standing about taking photographs."
>>
>> He began setting up his equipment and the officer arrested him for a
>> breach of the peace.
>>
>> Marc, of Longbenton, North Tyneside, alleges that when his daughter tried
>> to take a photo of him being arrested with her mobile phone it was
>> knocked
>> out of her hand and damaged.
>>
>> He said: "Despite me having a camera body in one hand and a monopod in
>> the
>> other I held my hands out for him to allow him to put his handcuffs on
>> me.
>>
>> "When the van arrived to take me to the station I asked the officer to
>> collect my equipment that was still on the pavement, but I was ignored."
>>
>> Marc was kept in the cells for 10 minutes and claims when he was released
>> he asked for the paperwork for his arrest, only to be given a Post-It
>> note
>> with the incident number on and date.
>>
>> His equipment has never been found and he claims CCTV footage shows a man
>> walking away from the scene with a black backpack that looked like his
>> camera bag.
>>
>> Mr McMahon has asked his solicitor Peter Dodds to file a complaint
>> against
>> Northumbria Police for aggressive assault, unlawful arrest, unlawful
>> detainment and excessive use of force on October 17. He also made a
>> complaint for negligence for the loss of his camera bag.
>>
>> He said he is unable to work and wants an apology for the stress caused
>> to
>> him by the arrest and compensation for the loss of the equipment.
>>
>> A Northumbria Police spokesman said: "Police officers are aware of the
>> need to work with the media and let reporters and photographers carry out
>> their jobs when covering events which are happening in public places.
>>
>> "However the actions of the media must not compromise police operations,
>> put anyone in danger or obstruct the police.
>>
>> "In this case, officers were concerned that media attention could have
>> exacerbated what was already a tense situation with a man threatening to
>> jump from the Tyne Bridge.
>>
>> "This led to an arrest for breach of the peace."

>
> Cross-posted to uk.legal, where the increasing use of police state tactics
> is of interest.
>


Something like that happened to me but I wasn't arrested. And I'm only 15!

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David J Taylor
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      10-30-2006
Paul Heslop wrote:
> Joan wrote:
>>
>> Why didn't the daughter look after the camera gear?
>>
>> What happened to the camera body that was in his hand?
>>
>> --
>> Joan
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/joan-in-manly

>
> good questions, it doesn't mention daughter after her getting her
> camera phone knocked out of her hand, so we have to assume she was
> either crying over it or running after dad. Assumption also that he
> actually took camera body etc with him... but I just found this
> article which says that the daughter is his assistant! Surely she
> should have wrapped everything up for him?
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ybtkob


How accurate is "The Sunday Sun"?

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Paul Heslop
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      10-30-2006
Mike wrote:

> Something like that happened to me but I wasn't arrested. And I'm only 15!
>
> --
> Mike


But harder for you to say you're a press man, Mike.
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Paul Heslop
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      10-30-2006
David J Taylor wrote:
>
> Paul Heslop wrote:
> > Joan wrote:
> >>
> >> Why didn't the daughter look after the camera gear?
> >>
> >> What happened to the camera body that was in his hand?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Joan
> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/joan-in-manly

> >
> > good questions, it doesn't mention daughter after her getting her
> > camera phone knocked out of her hand, so we have to assume she was
> > either crying over it or running after dad. Assumption also that he
> > actually took camera body etc with him... but I just found this
> > article which says that the daughter is his assistant! Surely she
> > should have wrapped everything up for him?
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/ybtkob

>
> How accurate is "The Sunday Sun"?
>
> David


I don't think it has anything to with the notorious Sun newspaper. Its
sister papers are pretty good, the daily Journal and Chronicle. I
suppose it depends on viewpoint but the sunday papers always seem to
lean a little towards sensationalist/celeb stuff and the sunday Sun
does a little too. The second article I posted is from
www.pressgazette.co.uk/
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