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Nikon D200 + 80-200mm f/2.8 + 2x Tele-Converter = ?

 
 
cjcampbell
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      10-24-2006

Ed Ruf (REPLY to E-MAIL IN SIG!) wrote:
> On 22 Oct 2006 17:07:48 -0700, in rec.photo.digital "cjcampbell"
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> >The 1.7x converter also supports VR. It is also a lot more
> >comfortable to use. Reviewers also say the 1.7x converter costs you
> >almost nothing in sharpness.

>
> So does the TC-20E-II.


Do you have some documentation for that?

 
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      10-26-2006
On 23 Oct 2006 19:11:52 -0700, in rec.photo.digital "cjcampbell"
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>Ed Ruf (REPLY to E-MAIL IN SIG!) wrote:
>> On 22 Oct 2006 17:07:48 -0700, in rec.photo.digital "cjcampbell"
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>> >The 1.7x converter also supports VR. It is also a lot more
>> >comfortable to use. Reviewers also say the 1.7x converter costs you
>> >almost nothing in sharpness.

>>
>> So does the TC-20E-II.

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>Do you have some documentation for that?


For what claim? VR works fine through the TC-20E-II in the following combos
in my experience:
D70 + 70-200mm f/2.8 VR + TC-20EII
D200 + 70-200mm f/2.8 VR + TC-20EII
D200 + 200-400mm f/4 VR + TC-20EII
I haven't gotten around to trying the TC-20 with the 200-4400 on the D70.

Now as far as the sharpness question I believe that will be a bit
subjective. It is especially difficult to evaluate fairly in light of the
fact that you lose two stops with the TC-20. Technique can be extremely
important. Much of what I shoot is handheld, so that holds even more so.
I'm still struggling with technique sometimes in using the 200-400mm f/4 VR
by itself as compared to the 70-200mm f/2.8 VR + TC-20EII given it's
greater bulk and heft, such as trying to shoot F-22s flying around at work.

Overall for the 70-200mm f/2.8 VR + TC-20EII I've been extremely happy with
the results in general.

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Ed Ruf (REPLY to E-MAIL IN SIG!) wrote:
> On 23 Oct 2006 19:11:52 -0700, in rec.photo.digital "cjcampbell"
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> >Ed Ruf (REPLY to E-MAIL IN SIG!) wrote:
> >> On 22 Oct 2006 17:07:48 -0700, in rec.photo.digital "cjcampbell"
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> >> >The 1.7x converter also supports VR. It is also a lot more
> >> >comfortable to use. Reviewers also say the 1.7x converter costs you
> >> >almost nothing in sharpness.
> >>
> >> So does the TC-20E-II.

> >
> >Do you have some documentation for that?

>
> For what claim? VR works fine through the TC-20E-II in the following combos
> in my experience:
> D70 + 70-200mm f/2.8 VR + TC-20EII
> D200 + 70-200mm f/2.8 VR + TC-20EII
> D200 + 200-400mm f/4 VR + TC-20EII
> I haven't gotten around to trying the TC-20 with the 200-4400 on the D70.


Yeah, it was the VR that I wanted documentation for. Interesting. the
1.7x teleconverter is the only one that Nikon says will support VR. How
do you know it is working on the 2x teleconverter?

 
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      10-26-2006
On 25 Oct 2006 18:40:38 -0700, in rec.photo.digital "cjcampbell"
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>>Yeah, it was the VR that I wanted documentation for. Interesting. the

>1.7x teleconverter is the only one that Nikon says will support VR. How
>do you know it is working on the 2x teleconverter?


Well, the 70-200mm f/2.8 VR is a lens specifically recommended for use with
it. You can also hear and see VR working in the viewfinder and in the
resulting images, just as you can without the TC-20. The TC-17E was the
last TC to come to the market, so it's product info might be a bit more up
to date. Also, sometimes it appears their published info isn't always
correct. In the instruction booklet I got with the TC-20E, which also
covers the TC-14E, it explicitly states you would lose AF using the TC-20E
+ 200-400mm f/4 VR because of a resulting f/8 for the combo. As I've
stated, at least on my case on my D200 that is not the case. AF still
works, albeit a bit more sluggish, but not as sluggish as the TC-20E +
70-200mm f/2.8 VR combo does at f/5.6 on my D70.
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