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Joan
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      10-13-2006
So you want me to post a reply without quoting any of the original
post?

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John McWilliams
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      10-14-2006
Joan wrote:
> So you want me to post a reply without quoting any of the original
> post?
>


No! You're smart, and have great one or two liners. They'd be easier to
read, etc. if they immediately followed whatever it is you're commenting
upon.

Also, it makes the sig delimiter work; my news client automatically
chops whatever's below the delimiter.

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Joan
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      10-14-2006
What your newsreader does is your problem.

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"John McWilliams" <> wrote in message
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: Joan wrote:
: > So you want me to post a reply without quoting any of the original
: > post?
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: No! You're smart, and have great one or two liners. They'd be easier
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: read, etc. if they immediately followed whatever it is you're
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: Also, it makes the sig delimiter work; my news client automatically
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Gisle Hannemyr
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      10-14-2006
"Joan" <2> writes:
> So you want me to post a reply without quoting any of the original
> post?


Isn't that what you are doing already?

I've never seen any quoted text in your posts here (not that I care,
I just tick uparrow to see what you are responding to if I need to).
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Miles
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      10-15-2006
ASAAR wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 01:43:35 GMT, Miles wrote:
>
>> FYI, the threads I need are:
>>
>> Custom White Balance, 7/9/06/0743
>> How do you pictures on the internet, Denny B, 6/20/2015
>> Image Stabilization, Michael M, 6/22/1625
>>
>> Curious as to whether these are still on the server -- if so, why can't
>> I download them in Thunderbird newsreader, via news.sf.sbcglobal.net.
>> Or if not on the server, why are they gone when other msgs before and
>> after are there? (Unsubscribed and resubscribed a 2nd time with same
>> result.)

>
> Checking my newsreader, I found headers from the first two threads
> (which had previously been saved). I then was able to retrieve all
> of the message bodies. The spelling of the "Subject" didn't exactly
> match what you posted, FWIW. These were:
>
>> From: "picture taker" <>
>> Subject: custom white balance/exposure questions ?
>> Date: 9 Jul 2006 07:43:52 -0700

> [48 messages found in this thread]
>
>> From: Denny B <>
>> Subject: How do you pictures on Internet
>> Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 03:15:35 GMT

> [8 messages found in this thread]
>
> The last ("Image Stabilization, Michael M, 6/22/1625") wasn't
> found, although I located a similar thread:
>
>> From: "Jim Sant" <>
>> Subject: How reliable is Image Stablization Systems?
>> Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 18:02:48 -0400

> [9 messages found in this thread]
>
>
> As for why you couldn't find these messages, one reason *might* be
> that a custom filter (if Thunderbird uses them) might be
> responsible. It could also be that your news server is responsible,
> as none are 100% reliable. Premium news servers usually do much
> better, but cost more.
>


No filters set up. Interesting that Joan's links to image
stabilization did not produce the desired thread, and I don't believe we
are using the same news server -- I have news.sf.sbcglobal.net. Was
looking for one that started on 6/22/1625 by Michael M and there was
another msg from Daniel on 6/23/0745 (Don't know if in NG's the times
are my local times as they are in mail, or time posted.)

At any rate that thread was needed to learn something of image
stabilization, and via the various links to threads on Joan's findings I
believe the subject is well covered. Thanks all of you for the assist!
Miles
 
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ASAAR
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      10-15-2006
On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:58:14 GMT, Miles wrote:

> No filters set up. Interesting that Joan's links to image
> stabilization did not produce the desired thread, and I don't believe we
> are using the same news server -- I have news.sf.sbcglobal.net. Was
> looking for one that started on 6/22/1625 by Michael M and there was
> another msg from Daniel on 6/23/0745 (Don't know if in NG's the times
> are my local times as they are in mail, or time posted.)


The way the times are displayed depends on how the news reader is
designed to display them. At least with my newsreader the time is
based on my computer's clock, which I discovered once when I had
changed the date and inadvertently failed to reset it. This time
along with the local time zone information is included when messages
are posted. If someone in G.B. posts a message at 7:00 pm (their
local time), my newsreader will show the time as either 3:00 pm or
2:00 pm, depending on whether Daylight Savings Time is or isn't in
effect. The actual time can be seen in the message headers, and the
way it's presented varies. Your own message that I'm replying to
shows these time headers:

> NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 13:58:14 EDT
> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:58:14 GMT


and other messages sometimes display the local time in the headers
with a GMT offset as in this example from another message:

> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 13:10:45 -0400



> At any rate that thread was needed to learn something of image
> stabilization, and via the various links to threads on Joan's findings I
> believe the subject is well covered. Thanks all of you for the assist!


You're welcome, from all of us, even Joan . . . I think.

 
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Miles
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      10-16-2006
ASAAR wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:58:14 GMT, Miles wrote:
>
>> No filters set up. Interesting that Joan's links to image
>> stabilization did not produce the desired thread, and I don't believe we
>> are using the same news server -- I have news.sf.sbcglobal.net. Was
>> looking for one that started on 6/22/1625 by Michael M and there was
>> another msg from Daniel on 6/23/0745 (Don't know if in NG's the times
>> are my local times as they are in mail, or time posted.)

>
> The way the times are displayed depends on how the news reader is
> designed to display them. At least with my newsreader the time is
> based on my computer's clock, which I discovered once when I had
> changed the date and inadvertently failed to reset it. This time
> along with the local time zone information is included when messages
> are posted. If someone in G.B. posts a message at 7:00 pm (their
> local time), my newsreader will show the time as either 3:00 pm or
> 2:00 pm, depending on whether Daylight Savings Time is or isn't in
> effect. The actual time can be seen in the message headers, and the
> way it's presented varies. Your own message that I'm replying to
> shows these time headers:
>
>> NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 13:58:14 EDT
>> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:58:14 GMT

>
> and other messages sometimes display the local time in the headers
> with a GMT offset as in this example from another message:
>
>> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 13:10:45 -0400

>
>
>> At any rate that thread was needed to learn something of image
>> stabilization, and via the various links to threads on Joan's findings I
>> believe the subject is well covered. Thanks all of you for the assist!

>
> You're welcome, from all of us, even Joan . . . I think.
>


Interesting the headers here do not read the line NTTP-Posting-Date nor
does the time line read GMT -- presumably you are on the EC of the
States? I'm using Thunderbird and the ISP is AT&T using Yahoo's
servers for mail and I believe for NG's as well.
Miles
 
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ASAAR
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      10-16-2006
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 06:00:45 GMT, Miles wrote:

> Interesting the headers here do not read the line NTTP-Posting-Date nor
> does the time line read GMT -- presumably you are on the EC of the
> States? I'm using Thunderbird and the ISP is AT&T using Yahoo's
> servers for mail and I believe for NG's as well.


Yes, I'm located in the EC of the States. The NNTP-Posting-Date
header (and I suppose its exact format) should vary from message to
message. What you see depends on the newsreader client that was
used to create the messages. Check several messages and you'll
quickly see how non-uniform the headers are. If all the headers
were produced by your ISP and your Thunderbird, then the date
components you see in the headers would be uniform. At least that's
the way I understand it. Check the headers of your own messages.
The one of yours that I'm replying to has this in the header:

> NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:00:45 EDT


Unless I'm mistaken, you should also see this.

 
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Miles
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      10-17-2006
ASAAR wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 06:00:45 GMT, Miles wrote:
>
>> Interesting the headers here do not read the line NTTP-Posting-Date nor
>> does the time line read GMT -- presumably you are on the EC of the
>> States? I'm using Thunderbird and the ISP is AT&T using Yahoo's
>> servers for mail and I believe for NG's as well.

>
> Yes, I'm located in the EC of the States. The NNTP-Posting-Date
> header (and I suppose its exact format) should vary from message to
> message. What you see depends on the newsreader client that was
> used to create the messages. Check several messages and you'll
> quickly see how non-uniform the headers are. If all the headers
> were produced by your ISP and your Thunderbird, then the date
> components you see in the headers would be uniform. At least that's
> the way I understand it. Check the headers of your own messages.
> The one of yours that I'm replying to has this in the header:
>
>> NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:00:45 EDT

>
> Unless I'm mistaken, you should also see this.
>


Guess it must depend upon the originator's individual server or ISP. In
this thread the entry is seen for msgs from McWilliams, Miles, and
Daniel; but not for Joan, Kerby, x211s and your msgs.
 
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