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acl wrote:
> Frank ess wrote:
>>
>> I don't really know about any talents other than car owner and
>> racing
>> driver. He lived in Switzerland and Palm Springs, and died a year
>> or
>> so ago. Here he is with wife Eleanor after one of his many race
>> wins:
>> http://www.fototime.com/D57276070CA0986/orig.jpg
>>
>
> Different Von Neumann.
>
> Speaking of racing, here's a nice shot:
> http://www.geocities.com/chasey_uk/eliomonaco_84.jpg
>
> Brave men, both of them...

They certainly are / were. On a couple occasions I was in a position
to do something like that, but couldn't manage it for one reason or
another ...

This one shows a photographer with a similar impulse, I'd guess, but
not really in the same league as the one who nailed de Angelis:
http://www.fototime.com/30A4AB66AA3AD47/orig.jpg

The Atlas F1 Nostalgia Forum has had a number of threads about the
daring and skill of racing photographers; I can't seem to find the one
with links to some 1950s adventuresome lensmen, but it's in there
somewhere:
http://forums.autosport.com/forumdis...42a&forumid=10
OR
http://tinyurl.com/deah5

--
Frank ess

Frank ess wrote:
>
> John Turco wrote:
> > Frank ess wrote:
> >
> > <edited, for brevity>
> >
> >> http://www.fototime.com/3FE7EDF8FC0645E/orig.jpg Ferrari......s/n
> >> 0672MDTR, a 625 TRC, originally owned by John von Neumann, raced by
> >> him and Richie Ginther.
> >>
> >> http://www.fototime.com/0DB16848BB161BC/orig.jpg 1/24-scale model,
> >> Nikon CP995, OttLite / copy-paper diffused
> >>
> >> --
> >> Frank ess
> >
> >
> > Hello, Frank:
> >
> > John von Neumann, the famous mathematician?
> >
> >
> > Cordially,
> > John Turco <>
>
> I don't really know about any talents other than car owner and racing
> driver. He lived in Switzerland and Palm Springs, and died a year or
> so ago. Here he is with wife Eleanor after one of his many race wins:
> http://www.fototime.com/D57276070CA0986/orig.jpg
>
> --
> Frank ess


Hello, Frank:

I was referring to John von Neumann (1903-1957), who was a naturalized
U.S. citizen, born in Hungary; his birth name was Neumann János Lajos.
He made important contributions to the development of the hydrogen bomb,
as well as a number of other scientific and mathmatical endeavors.

Didn't think race cars interested him, and your response confirmed my
original hunch.


Cordially,
John Turco <>

John Turco wrote:
>
> I was referring to John von Neumann (1903-1957), who was a naturalized
> U.S. citizen, born in Hungary; his birth name was Neumann János Lajos.
> He made important contributions to the development of the hydrogen bomb,
> as well as a number of other scientific and mathmatical endeavors.
>
> Didn't think race cars interested him, and your response confirmed my
> original hunch.

John,
Actually, von Neumann was apparently well-known for being a kind of bon
vivant, and he did love fast cars, according to various books I
remember reading. I don't think he actually raced, and am unsure if he
was any good at driving fast, though. He was certainly incredible at
thinking fast, if various anecdotes about him are to be believed--told
by people who are semi-mythical figures themselves nowadays!
Cheers.

acl wrote:
>
> John Turco wrote:
> >
> > I was referring to John von Neumann (1903-1957), who was a naturalized
> > U.S. citizen, born in Hungary; his birth name was Neumann János Lajos.
> > He made important contributions to the development of the hydrogen bomb,
> > as well as a number of other scientific and mathmatical endeavors.
> >
> > Didn't think race cars interested him, and your response confirmed my
> > original hunch.
>
> John,
> Actually, von Neumann was apparently well-known for being a kind of bon
> vivant, and he did love fast cars, according to various books I
> remember reading. I don't think he actually raced, and am unsure if he
> was any good at driving fast, though. He was certainly incredible at
> thinking fast, if various anecdotes about him are to be believed--told
> by people who are semi-mythical figures themselves nowadays!
> Cheers.


Hello, ACL:

Fascinating, thanks. Next, you'll probably tell me that Albert Einstein
was a skydiver!


Cordially,
John Turco <>

Frank ess wrote:
> They certainly are / were. On a couple occasions I was in a position
> to do something like that, but couldn't manage it for one reason or
> another ...
>
> This one shows a photographer with a similar impulse, I'd guess, but
> not really in the same league as the one who nailed de Angelis:
> http://www.fototime.com/30A4AB66AA3AD47/orig.jpg
>
> The Atlas F1 Nostalgia Forum has had a number of threads about the
> daring and skill of racing photographers; I can't seem to find the one
> with links to some 1950s adventuresome lensmen, but it's in there
> somewhere:
> http://forums.autosport.com/forumdis...42a&forumid=10
> OR
> http://tinyurl.com/deah5

I have seldom managed to attend a racing event in person as a
photographer; my singular experience of it has resulted in one roll of
Ektachrome (the rest were in my car... stupidity does that to you), and
the only reasonably presentable results are here:
http://www.pbase.com/al599/wrc_cyprus_2000
Not as dangerous as what we discuss, but there you go... (it was a
28-105mm lens, I suppose). I was spitting dust for two days.

I prefer track racing, by the way.

acl wrote:
> Frank ess wrote:
>> They certainly are / were. On a couple occasions I was in a
>> position
>> to do something like that, but couldn't manage it for one reason or
>> another ...
>>
>> This one shows a photographer with a similar impulse, I'd guess,
>> but
>> not really in the same league as the one who nailed de Angelis:
>> http://www.fototime.com/30A4AB66AA3AD47/orig.jpg
>>
>> The Atlas F1 Nostalgia Forum has had a number of threads about the
>> daring and skill of racing photographers; I can't seem to find the
>> one with links to some 1950s adventuresome lensmen, but it's in
>> there
>> somewhere:
>> http://forums.autosport.com/forumdis...42a&forumid=10
>> OR
>> http://tinyurl.com/deah5
>
> I have seldom managed to attend a racing event in person as a
> photographer; my singular experience of it has resulted in one roll
> of
> Ektachrome (the rest were in my car... stupidity does that to you),
> and the only reasonably presentable results are here:
> http://www.pbase.com/al599/wrc_cyprus_2000
> Not as dangerous as what we discuss, but there you go... (it was a
> 28-105mm lens, I suppose). I was spitting dust for two days.
>
> I prefer track racing, by the way.

Frank ess wrote:


<Snip to divert attention from embarassing send-click>

>>> The Atlas F1 Nostalgia Forum has had a number of threads about the
>>> daring and skill of racing photographers; I can't seem to find the
>>> one with links to some 1950s adventuresome lensmen, but it's in
>>> there
>>> somewhere:
>>> http://forums.autosport.com/forumdis...42a&forumid=10
>>> OR
>>> http://tinyurl.com/deah5
>>
>> I have seldom managed to attend a racing event in person as a
>> photographer; my singular experience of it has resulted in one roll
>> of
>> Ektachrome (the rest were in my car... stupidity does that to you),
>> and the only reasonably presentable results are here:
>> http://www.pbase.com/al599/wrc_cyprus_2000
>> Not as dangerous as what we discuss, but there you go... (it was a
>> 28-105mm lens, I suppose). I was spitting dust for two days.
>>
>> I prefer track racing, by the way.

Me, too.

Your pictures are very evocative. I prefer that kind to car-portraits.

I spent a lot of time in very dangerous track-side positions, but
without a camera. I reckoned my attention was best focused on the
projectiles closing in than on making pictures:
http://home.san.rr.com/fsheff/pictures/flag0S.jpg

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Frank ess